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threebigrocks #fundie bibleforums.org

Some evolutionists belive in the 'soup' theory where all living things simply evolved from a big pot of molecular chowder that somehow came together to form man, then woman. They then crawled out of a primal ooze and continued to evolve into the man we see in our world today. This is where the refutation of a tornado putting together a house arguement is used freequently with evolution.

DSK #fundie bibleforums.org

[If we received a confirmed signal from a distant alien civilization (proving that there is intelligent life on other planets), how would it affect your views regarding Christianity, Jesus and salvation?]

I would be excited, because then there would be new opportunities to evangelize.

Stanleyg #fundie bibleforums.org

Hieroglyphs is the oldest form of writing. The serpent plays tricks with God's word to add or subtract letters to distort one's thinking.

I am starting a list so that members in our body of Christ can add words to the list that the Holy Spirit has revealed to him or her.

Observe that the letter added and/or subtracted will either distort or modify the meaning. State whether either word is a (D) distortion or (M) modification.

Examples:

M Evil + d = Devil
D God + l = Gold
D Word + l = World
D Heaven - h + l = Leaven

Rev12
[9] And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Amen!

recoveringpunker #fundie bibleforums.org

There was actualy 1,666 years (I think) from Adam to Flood. Which closely resembles the Artist Formerly Known As Prince's album entitled 1999 .

What is crazy to think about is that Adam lived long enough to know Noah's dad. In fact Adam died like 60 years before Noah. So we can think that Adam talked to Lamech. I can see all the children, and grandchildren, great-grandchildren, etc sitting around a camp fire listening to Adam talk about the begining and the Garden. Crazy...

Keokime #fundie bibleforums.org

How come man can't grasp the theory that men in the time of Adam up until the the flood killed all the dinosaurs. That is my opinion. Many animals right now are on the verge of death. Same back then. Adam lived over 800 years, or did he hit 900? Can't remember. Imagine the strength, the ruggedness of man during the first 1000 years of civilization. Just men worrying about meat for their families, tilling the land. Oh, what a great time to be alive. And dinosaurs, imagine looking at them soley as meat. Food for months! Then they are also looked at as predators, so men probably tried to kill as many as possible for their own safety and nothing else.
What is the point I tried to make? I don't know. Um, dinosaurs were here, they roamed the earth, we killed them just like we have killed other species of animals. Done.

Adam4God #fundie bibleforums.org

[Arguing that our mathematical system contains errors.]

Oh i'd like to argue that.
tell me, what is 1/3 of 10 in number form, 3.333... repeating, correct?
So in theory, if 1/3 x3=1
then 3.333....x3=10 ?
but no, 3.333...x3=9.999...
so in "theory" 9.999...=10
ok?
yeah, how is mathmatics falsifiable... when i'm afraid our number system has a glitch.

Ikester7579 #fundie bibleforums.org

[closed thread title: Does your work affect you position on evolution?]

Yes, I work as a oil distributor. Because of this I have had to take three courses in lubrication, and filtration. Learning the history of how some base stocks of oils came to be. And why. Plus that there are ways to make petroleum oil, in less than a day. Made me realize that the millions of years of decay for dinos, and biomass to make crude oil. Does not take millions of years. Which made me search for evidence as to how science came to this conclusion.

What I found is that this conclusion is based on an assumption and not fact. And there is no evidence that the break down of such materials takes that long. But what I did find was that other people took and applied the same conditions, found in the ground, to simuliar materials (turkey, chicken parts. And sewage) and made oil in less than a day.
I found that the only reason that science made the claim of millions of years is because they say dinos lived that far back. And they knew that a lot of the material that oil was made from, came from them. So without testing the assumption, it was accepted and taught as fact. Fact with no scientific testing or method or evidence.

This is one of the many things that set me on a course of doubting evolution, and accepting creation.

Jesus-IS-Savior #fundie bibleforums.org

nobody understands evolution because it doesnt happen. Evolution theory cant prove one case of any animal changing from one kind to another. Or organ evolution, all organ evolution...Or how planets evolved, or stars forming...or the sun and earth and planets positions and how they depend on each other..or the elemental table...Or NUMEROUS other things god made perfect...like DNA molecules..protein chains exc...chromosomes and on and on and on...basically everything

jesuslover1968 #fundie bibleforums.org

Even scientists have admitted that the dating of fossils is faulty. I find it very confusing when I am told that we were once monkies, yet there are no fossils proving this. As someone said the make up of a monkey is close to ours, but still not the same.
Another thing that puzzles me is that scientists try to tell us that humans existed at the same time dinosaurs did, yet there is no mention of this in the Bible. I am sure as big and mean as they were, there would be a mention somewhere. I am also sure that IF they existed at the same time as man, that man would NOT be at the top of the food chain. Also, if they existed where are they mentioned in all of the historical writings?
God Bless.

jesuslover1968 #fundie bibleforums.org

It is ridiculous to me that intelligent human beings actually believe we come from apes. On the other hand, I do not mean to insult their intelligence. Evolution is more a religion than a belief. I think those who believe in it should be very careful and pray that they are doing the right thing. I could never believe in it unless God Himself told me it was so.

always #fundie bibleforums.org

There was a reason that God said it was not good that man be alone. Man was without a mate, amongst animal creatures with mates.

once presented with his mate, he saw bone of HIS bone and flesh of HIS flesh. She was the only one LIKE him.

when SOME scientists bring up this malarky, they want to liken us to the animals, and that will open doors for the sick to come in with ideas like beastialty.... loving the created more than the creator

Whispering Grace #fundie bibleforums.org

"[quote;Tolerance is very important.]

No, tolerance is what has led to apostasy. Tolerance is what has led to moral relativism. Tolerance is what has led to the infestation of liberalism within the Church. Tolerance is what has led to people trusting man over God. Tolerance is what has led to a watering down of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

What IS important is standing firm in God's Word and NOT tolerating that which seeks to destroy it."

yod #fundie bibleforums.org

All christians get in America is harrassement and personal humiliation.

Some of it is caused by our own actions and probably deserved.

If we can't endure even this much for His sake, how will we stand in the day of real persecution? Now is the time to answer that question...not when it is too late.

moonglow #fundie bibleforums.org

Speaking of fundies say the darnest thing, does it not occur to anyone at all how totally werid even having that site is? I mean honestly, WHY spend the money and time (hours upon hours) searching for werid comments by Christians? Do they not have a life? Are they really that bored? Are their ego that deflated they have to pick on the weakest and most immature Christians to make themselves look smart?

Where IS the logic is doing this? I don't know of one single Christian that goes lurking around athesit message boards looking for off the wall remarks and them posting them all on a site for other Christians to laugh about. To me, its extremely immature and something I could see junior high school kids doing for laughs and with too much time on their hands. I actually feel sorry for those involved in running that site because they must have hours and hours of freetime....meaning they have no families or friends to spend time with...and are apparently bored out of their minds to be stooping to doing something so low. But I guess I would rather see them pick on us then getting hooked on porn sites and throwing their money away there!

threebigrocks's Avatar #fundie bibleforums.org

This is something for thought.

If man evolved from apes, then why are there still apes? Why haven't they all become human, if that was God's plan? Apes are an animal, which is what some say we have evolved from? What about the fact Genesis is clear on the fact that God created animals, then man? Adam named them all, correct? Animals were named by man, not an intelligent animal. That I think we can all agree on.

GodspromisesareYES #fundie bibleforums.org

ok winter asked me what do i mean by an agenda- the reason why evolution got so popular was not because there has ever been any form of proof for it it is because it was a theory where in man could completely ignore a creator and feel free to live in flesh and sin.originally evolution was a RELIGION and came from babylon thousands of years ago and it is still a religion today because there is no true science behind it! infact all true science proves it to be true and many men with PHD's christian and non christian have said that this is one of the biggest hoax's ever pulled on humans. the reason that most scientists believe it is that they are sinply not willing to beleive the ONLY other option which is creation. and the truth is that not a few scienctists have lost jobs and had all publications refuse to publish there work when they have even suggested evolution to be proven untrue. Now when you spend that many years getting a degree and having a career then find out all evidence is against the theory that most accept it is a hard choice to be the one to stand up and say hey somethings not right here.

Blessall #fundie bibleforums.org

I have personality never understood the importance of teaching science in school since most of it is man made lies to try and disprove Christianity. Always remember that the Holly Bible is the only book ever written that you don’t have to question.

uscchica09 #fundie bibleforums.org

If the Bible is wrong when it tells us it is infallible, then it contradicts itself. If it contradicts itself, then it is unreliable. If it is unreliable, then our faith is totally shattered and Christianity is a lie. You need to seriously reconsider your logic.

cowboy_tech #fundie bibleforums.org

You could also say that these alien abductions dealing with reproduction is an attempt to make more nephylum. It is also interesting to note that craft sightings seem to break the laws of physics and act more like interdimensional travel.

Remember the human genome has degraded since the fall [wink]

Thadd #fundie bibleforums.org

I think 1-12 grade could be taught out of the book of Job. I truly do. I am a doctor of metaphysics and feel as if it is my duty to let the world know of the invisible things of life. i.e the spirit. But, God is great and it was Him who created all that is, and he did it with His powers. Our science is only products of His greatness. I want many to read here some excerpts from Job. It is great, smart, and right on the dime, and was more than 4000 years ahead of our scienctific age.

vinsight4u8 #fundie bibleforums.org

Many years ago I stood up against the teaching of evolution at my school. I refused to go along with the bunk, and today (since I believed in Jesus then, but was not saved) I may have done even more. On those papers and such, I wrote what the teacher wanted, and then put that it is a lie as God created everything. God said and it was so! I put bible verses at the top and off to the sides. Before we compromised in that way, I stood up several times and preached to the class that the bible says...and God created. I spoke about Noah and the rainbow. Evolution is a big lie and it is certainly not scientific!

KennethDCollins #fundie bibleforums.org

1. The Bible says that God stretched out the heavens. What does this mean to you guys? 2. We know how fast light travels on Earth, but there is gravity here, and light is affected by gravity. They actually have no clue how fast light travels in the vacuum of space, so what does that do to your theory?

KennethDCollins #fundie bibleforums.org

Now are you stating that there was no global flood??? Is there any part of the Bible that you DO believe??? Of course there was a global flood, and scientific evidence is proving this more and more all the time. You know those layers that were supposed to take millions of years each to form? Well, they realize now that that's not the case. If there was even 10 years in between, they would see evidence of insects and other small animals burrowed under each level. They would also see signs of erosion in between the layers. Guess what? They find NEITHER ONE. The only conclusion they can possibly come up with is a global flood. All the different types of minerals and everything else was caught up in this flood and slowly began to settle to the ground, the heaviest minerals first on through to the lightest. It's like mixing oil and water.

MC1171611 #fundie bibleforums.org

"Why is it that you can tell a kid that God created him and that the Bible is true, and he'll believe it so fiercely, yet tell that to an "educated" individual, or that is a "Free Thinker," and all of a sudden he'll question EVERY SINGLE THING that God said. No matter that the Bible lays it out htere so clearly, he will question it. The Bible says that we have to have faith, but who cares, right? I mean, if we can rationalize everything away, then there's no need for faith"

TEITZY #fundie bibleforums.org

"The idea that God created the universe is indeed logical and while we as finite beings, may not be able to comprehend the infinite existence of God, such a preposition is logical given the evidence of the physical universe.

The thought that the universe created itself is not just illogical but absurd based on what we know about space, time and matter.

Your preposition that God just "popped into existence" is wrong and itself an absurd idea. What do you suppose are the chances of yourself just popping into existence from pond slime? Even the most deluded evolutionist would not propose that man could instantaneously 'evolve' from a chemical soup. So how could God, who is infinitely greater than man, form from nothing?"

Always #fundie bibleforums.org

[A reply to Amadeus when he asked another poster to provide evidence to claims of widespread satanic abuse]

Amadeus, brother, IT DOES NOT MATTER, IF EVERYTHING SHE SAID WAS NOT TRUE.

it would not change the fact that the occult is real, it's satanic, it is of the devil, you are missing the point, the word of God stating that evil is evil should be proof enough

proudsoccermom #fundie bibleforums.org

We have a new single male neighbor, [shocked smiley] and another single male neighbor has lived a few houses down since we moved here. We have done our best to shelter our children from him. We belive that being single is sinful (God gave Eve to Adam, a womans purpose is to be with a man). We do not want our children to think its ok to go though life single. My husband thinks all singles are 'you know what' which makes this matter even more dire. We can't afford to move right now so we're both just at our wits end. We've been praying constantly and talking to our pastor who is very concerned as well. I will continue to pray [praying smiley] and I'm sure He will show me the right path, until then has anyone else struggles with this problem, any advise? ["HELP" smiley]

ikester7579 #fundie bibleforums.org

Four also applies to:

1) Four regions; North, South, East, West.
2) Four elements; Earth, Air, Fire, Water.
3) Four Seasons; Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter.
4) Four kingdoms; Mineral, vegetable, animal, spiritual.
5) Four winds; from the four directions of this earth as mentioned in the word of God.
6) Four divisions of our day; morning, noon, evening, and night.
7) Four phases of the moon; 1st quarter, new moon, last quarter, and full moon.

Out of the list above, only animal is not created yet. Also, 7 is the number of God.

psalm150 #fundie bibleforums.org

The creation does not lie and numbers do not lie.JESUS,the Creator,left His numerical stamp over everything.
I could list a long list of examples but a few are:
7 days in a week Why not 6-8 or 9?

28 days in a creation month[7x4] 29th day new month[full moon to full moon] Why not 25 or 35 days in a month?

The are 12 different notes in a chromatic scale of music. [12 tribes-12 disciples-12 months in a year] Why not 11 or 13?

The NUMBERS do not lie

ikester7579 #fundie bibleforums.org

['The materials here today didnt come directly from the Big Bang, except for maybe some hydrogen and helium somewhere. Just like you can't say humans came from the Big Bang. But everything is a result of the Big Bang.
So as time went on and things were formed they got their age. The same thing with brothers and sisters. I came from the same source as my brother did, but our ages are still different.']

Nice try. Your comparing living and non-living material as if they are the same. Living material ages from the day it becomes alive. Non-living material ages from the moment it exploded into existence.

So this means that all non-living material should date close in age. But a 4.3 billion year old earth, in a 18 billion year old galaxy, does not fit with current views of the Big Bang. That's like having a baby that's older than you are. The concept does not work.

boonebytes #fundie bibleforums.org

I recently completed a spiritual gift test, and the #1 manifested gift on the list was miracles. Does anyone else out there have the gift of miracles? I currently cannot walk on water or anything, but I won't put it past God to use me sometime to help provide faith and sway people to believe.

[...]

I guess the main thing is I would like some proof that He's not going to make me look silly. Like, if He wants me to yell out and command the rain to stop (for example), I would like the rain to actually stop so people will not laugh at me or lose faith.

Studyin'2Show #fundie bibleforums.org

[This poster is a creationist]

As far as, evolution 'predicting' anything, thats all it ever has done. Come up with a theory then go looking for evidence to prop it up. Most scientists look at the evidence, then come up with a theory.

Studyin'2Show #fundie bibleforums.org

[Delicious irony]

Look, we both see the same facts, but you seem to interpret them so they will fit in your theory. I see the facts and it seems completely obvious that they support Genesis creation as written. You think I'm deceived, I think you've been indoctinated so it's impossible to see the truth.

JesusFreak7 #fundie bibleforums.org

I studied witchcraft for 3 1/2 years until three weeks ago when I gave my life to Christ for the first time in my life. Satan is trying to get me back. I've heard voices to hurt myself and I have been pushed to the ground when no human being was around. He won't leave me alone. I am also on felony probation and still have 2 1/2 years left on my probation. If I screw up I get 1-5 years in prison.

Urim #fundie bibleforums.org

Astronomers have discovered a blue ring around Uranus. This is impressive because it adds credence to the idea that the "waters" of day two in Genesis, while the Earth was "without form and void", might represent a description of the early solar disk's appearance.

tr0pica1rain #fundie bibleforums.org

This year, well.. it's 2006.. I'm kinda scared. I feel like staying home the whole day locked up in my room. I know I sound weird, but I'm not even joking.. and my dog's birthday is June 6th. Is that weird?

Help.

Lissa #fundie bibleforums.org

I do not post dreams, but only visions which are seen in the sky. The above vision, the captive Son of Perdition at the end was seen by another person as well.

In May of 2005, I looked in the sky and saw a line of people in beds and on couches going across the sky backwards, (they could only see behind them, not in front (by FAITH), the way I had seen God go on His throne in the

Vision of God (on the locked thread). There were one after another, single file, going backwards the way the God had gone, for a long long time. Some were sitting up, some had stuffed animals suspended above them (children), some were wounded and many were ill.

Then I saw above them, comming across the sky, a boy, but what a boy! he stood facing forward upon the deck of a vessel, going swiftly over the line of people, and he stood relaxed, and eyes downcast as if deep in thought or prayer. He was thinking or praying of something very delightful. Though he was a boy (spiritual purity), his posture was the posture of a great commander, who could command all sorts of men, and the men would be passionately loyal to him. I marveled at the wisdom of the face of the boy, and his bearing. There was nothing on board but a life perserver, and it looked like the vessel had taken a beating at sea and the back half was broken off. My heart went out to him, for he was all alone.

A little while and I saw a girl comming across the sky, above the line of people, the same way the boy had gone. she had a little dog by her feet. She was also facing forward, at the front of a vessel or vehicle which I could not identify. She looked extremely confident and as if she were the bearer of an urgent message. She was leaning slightly forward, looking up. She looked ver wholesome and far too pure for this world and I wondered about her safety. The little dog was thrilled there beside her. His nose pointed forward toward where the boy had gone. Then he looked at me and his eyes were full of a wonderful knowing. He looked at me as if to say "If you only knew..."
hen I looked closely at the girls eyes, I saw she was worshipping God. Her eyes were lit with an inner joy that sparkled, but beneath the sparkle were every sign of weariness, and grief, so that I knew that her journey had been very hard and perilous.

I was amazed at the boy and the girl, and thought what trusted children they were, and I thought, 'If these are the children, what must the parents be like?'

For a long time I did not understand the vision, until I asked the Lord to reveal it to me, then I realized they were the Two Witnesses of God spoken of in Revelation 11.

the J Man #fundie bibleforums.org

[advice for medical depression]

Anyone going through depression, if you practice these principles, it will help you tremendously.

1. Focus your attention on Jesus.

2. Allow God to be first in your life.

3. Immerse yourself in the Word of God.

4. Tell the devil and his demon spirits to flee in the name of Jesus.

5. Have fellowship with strong believers.

Studyin'2Show #fundie bibleforums.org

because there are 100s of billions of stars doesn't say that they're all huge like our sun. The level of activity within an atom is amazing and if we were a neutron we may have an idea that the protons and the electrons are much farther than they are. Who knows how large or how small these other galaxies might be? No one. I would be guessing and so would you. You are basing your conclusions on data you don't have. You see, we will not know for sure until we actually go that far into space. That's why I say it's arrogant to say that we know what we really don't know.

always #fundie bibleforums.org

God is still in control, there is nothing that we can do to the planet that God hasn't taken into consideration, waaaaay before resources get to scarce, His plan will take care of everything

NewZack #fundie bibleforums.org

Archeologists in Texas found a fissilized foot and leg that was inside of a cowboy boot. Evidently it doesn't take all that long to form a fossil. A fossilized dinosuar footprint was also discovered with a human footprint in it. Can't remember exactly where but it was.

Diane! #fundie bibleforums.org

I don't think the feminists movement has given us much. The right to vote, sure, but it used to be that men would raise from their seats and remove their hats when a lady entered the room. Just like royalty.

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