[this guy is a 'christian deist' LOL!]
You like playing the bullshit love card, haha. You’re so predictable ^.^. Okay so people of the same sex who LOVE each other. Yeah so Dad loves his son sooo much he wants to have anal sex with him. They get married and it’s super cool because of your awesome morals. Wow liek, this means that if a dog rears its butt up to me and starts showing his penis that since he’s horney he wants sex so I let my wife and my dog have it out and they both get off every time and the dog keeps coming back. It’s consensual and there’s a relationship there as well. Seriously, are you really going to try and make such a ridiculous argument that something as intangible as "LOVE" is all you’ve got? Come on. Set aside some of your estrogen to make way for some reason.
Pedophilia would require a minor to be involved. Father and son doesn’t mean they have to be minors. Dad is 65 and Son is 35. They’re definitely old enough to CONSENT. Watcha gonna do now Mrs Relativity? Deny them because you don’t like it? C’mon, it’s all about LOOOOVE. lmao
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Uh...huh. It's a little scary that this is where his mind goes. Cross that bridge when we come to it.
As for the "set aside some of your estrogen," well, I'm pretty sure he doesn't have a marriage of his own to defend from us queers, or at least will not have one soon.
Wow. Somebody doesn't understand the difference between homosexuality, incest, and bestiality. Nor does he understand that there are more logical agreements FOR homosexuality than against it!
Hell, the only argument I've seen against homosexuality that even approaches logic is the Biblical approach--which only works if you believe that every last one of the religious laws of a 3000 year old society is still applicable today.
--The L
You fundy nutcases have an unhealthy obsession with somehow associating homosexuality with either bestiality or pedophilia. (or, in your case, both AND incest, apparently)
I wouldn't choose that sort of relationship, but, as they are adults, and they would probably persue this sort of relationship in private regardless of it's legality, I see no reason I should be against it.
I am against sex with animals as it should not only require consent but informed consent, and I don't think a non-human animal can consent to sex with a human. I am odd enough and liberal enough that I could even be swayed on that point.
P.S. Estrogen doesn't interfere with reason. Some of my most reasonable friends are rife with estrogen.
I'm a pretty perverted guy. I'm only a pervert with those who wants me to be, sure, but my mind is pretty dirty. But these people are always leagues ahead of me. They just need one little word, like for instance "homosexual", and their mind sets off on tirades like this one. It must be rather disturbing living like that.
1. Animals cannot consent.
2. Children cannot give informed consent.
3. Blood Relations already have a legal relationship with each other, especially parents and children. So there is no need to have them get married.
4. You're an idiot who thinks about having sex with your dog and kids a lot.
Mitch, are you fapping at the thought of all this, because I sure as shit ain't.
I got this mental picture of Mitch in his mom's basement, banging on the keyboard, frothing at the mouth, blood vessels bulging on his head and his pants getting tighter by the minute as he typed that.
With the pron window in the background.
How is he confusing homosexuality with incest and bestiality? It's disturbing, the links they will draw to protect their heterocentric bubble.
Nobody's thinking of fucking dogs except you, Mitch.
So, the squick factor is not that the father is 65 and the son is 35 but they're both guys? I guess that means he'd have absolutely no problem with the "marriage" if it was between a father and a daughter of the same ages, or even a mother and a son? After all, those aren't homosexual relationships!
"Yeah so Dad loves his son sooo much he wants to have anal sex with him. They get married and it’s super cool because of your awesome morals."
That's pedophilia and it's against my morals.
With perhaps a few exceptions.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RapeIsOkWhenItIsFemaleOnMale
"and the dog keeps coming back. It’s consensual and there’s a relationship there as well."
Yeah but they can't get married because dogs can't sign contracts.
"Dad is 65 and Son is 35. They’re definitely old enough to CONSENT"
I don't even know what you've been arguing about here but the level of incest there is pretty much illegal.
Pedophilia would require a minor to be involved. Father and son doesn’t mean they have to be minors. Dad is 65 and Son is 35. They’re definitely old enough to CONSENT. Watcha gonna do now Mrs Relativity? Deny them because you don’t like it? C’mon, it’s all about LOOOOVE.
Amazingly, the flailing fundie argument actually manages to hit an interesting point in between all the misses: the big taboo against incest, heavily engraved into most "normal" minds by evolutionary forces, is to prevent inbreeding and genetic damage - when there's no possibility of reproduction, in the case of homosexual incest, that argument is technically no longer relevant. Are there actually any other valid arguments against incest between consenting adults of the same gender and thus unable to mix genes? I suppose you could play the fairness/equality card - consensual incest between interfertile adults absolutely must still be prevented, and it wouldn't be fair to allow same-sex incest between consenting adults at the same time - but the thing is, "fairness" arguments of that sort don't really take any stance on the morality of the activity being denied one group and allowed another. Anyone else got any ideas on this interesting, if somewhat distasteful, topic?
Pedophilia would require a minor to be involved. Father and son doesn’t mean they have to be minors. Dad is 65 and Son is 35. They’re definitely old enough to CONSENT. Watcha gonna do now Mrs Relativity? Deny them because you don’t like it? C’mon, it’s all about LOOOOVE. lmao
But the straight equivalent for that can happen too. Should we shut down straight marriage too, on those grounds? If the sauce is good for the goose, it's good for the gander, bucko.
Anti-gay, pedophillia on the brain, incest on the brain and beastiality.
Sweet child o' mine you're one sick depraved bastard.
Um...people can be homosexual without committing pedophilia, bestiality, or incest. In fact, most do.
@Brain_In_A_Jar: In spite of the vast amount of internet fiction which may lead one to the opposite conclusion, gay twins tend to keep their sex lives separate, and consensual incest between gay twins is almost unheard of (first page of relevant work at <http://www.jstor.org/pss/3812342 >).
I can't find any verifiable statistics concerning consenting father-son incest in the literature, so I assume that it is virtually nonexistent, and hence, any such debate is purely academic.
He talks at great length, and with no small amount of glee, about bestiality, pedophilia, and incest...with smilies. With fuckin' smilies , as though this mental journey were no trouble at all to him--in sharp contrast to all the trouble it causes everyone to read it.
But since I have more estrogen than he does, I'm the one without reason.
Le sigh.
I personally would consider the business of the said father and son to be their own. Why can't you? Oh right, because you are a crazed religiophile who probably thinks that would make the horses eat each other, or make hippos ride tricycles, or make otters wear hair extensions or some other such stupid shit. You people tire me, die already and leave the planet for the sane.
Oh noes, we should ban straight relationships because if we allow people to have sex with the opposite gender, a father might have sex with his adult daughter.
but seriously, why do you people always think of incest and pedophilia?
I see nothing wrong with either of your examples, if all participants are willing.
In fairness, consult a psychiatrist before you start shagging your son/dad it doesn't sound healthy.
Acceptance of homosexual relationships in no way leads to acceptance of incest between a 65 year old man and his 35 year old son anymore than our acceptance of heterosexuality leads us to smile upon incest between a 65 year old man and his 35 year old daughter. Try again. Oh, and that whole first paragraph was bullshit.
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