[In other words, god could have created the world in such a way that when "sin" was introduced into the world, only 0.1% of recognized pregnancies would end in miscarriage, but he knowingly and purposefully decided to have about 20% of recognized pregnancies end in miscarriage.]
While it is true that a counsel was held prior to Creation, it is not documented that miscarriages were discussed.
Sin was discussed, and the Second Person of the Godhead volunteered to be the savior of mankind.
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"Hey Daddy, if I go get myself nailed to a tree, will you let humans into Heaven? Willya? Oh, go on, please, Dad, willya?"
"Well, OK, son. But only because it's you."
"What does the ghost guy get to do, Dad?"
"He gets to STFU, the pointless bastard."
...so the universe WAS created by bureaucrats!
(Don't forget that God may well have been talking to His first batch of sentients, the Angels. That seems kind've obvious, guys. In fact, I think some angels supposedly objected to giving humans free will, because of how Lucifer and his followers abused THEIR free will.)
"council" implies he was looking for feedback, and we know that's not how YHVH rolls
it was merely a press event, and the spokesangel dodged questions in a way that would have made Tony Snow proud
God -'So I'm thinking we should begin with a word but I'm not sure what it should be'
God - 'How about ... umm ... daffodil ??'
God - 'Nah, that wont go over too well with the over thirties'
God - 'I want to say .. Grog, maybe gog, bog, fog, got, God, hey yeah, how about God ??'
God - 'Good idea, it's a nice little word and it's relevant to the situation. God it is. Okay moving on, d'you think I should make the universe look brand new or like it's been around for Millions and millions of years ???'
God - 'Well you know me, I've always liked the worn in look. I vote for the Millions of years old look'
By the "counsel", I would assume you're only talking about the "godhead", in which case god was having a meeting with himself and volunteered to sacrifice himself for his own creation.
Not only is that not documented even by your bible, it is also patently idiotic.
Which chapter and verse of the KJV would this little tidbit be in?
Brilliant new answer for everything.
"You know, I don't think God discussed that issue with Himself at the pre-Creation meeting."
WTF?, again, bearing in mind that those pregnancies would, potentially, be more souls to him, didn't he discuss it?, funny.
But Casual Fridays and birthday cup cakes were discussed.
In the name of the wrapper, cake and creamy frosting. Yum yum.
That's right, kids ... the Omnipotent, Omniscient Creator of the Universe carefully made every living thing in existence, but the miscarriage rate was TOTALLY out of his control.
No, really.
where does the guy get his info from? Are there any minutes from this council? Any agenda? Why was it agreed to allow the Fall when they could have kept the serpent out, and allowed man to develop, was it all pre-ordained?
More and more illogical and NASTY
"While it is true that a counsel was held prior to Creation...."
Did they use powerpoint?
"Sin was discussed, and the Second Person of the Godhead volunteered to be the savior of mankind."
He probably got an extra vacation day for volunteering.
So if Jesus volunteered to save everyone...
Even by YEC standards, he waited 2,000 years after creation to do it. Was he just procrastinating or what?
You have the minutes of this meeting, do you?
Not to mention, it sounds like you're a bit of a polytheist there.....
A "counsel" prior to creation? WOW and I thought I had heard it all!!! Those are some transcripts that I would like to read. "So these humans that I'm going to create are going to fuck up badly and I'm going to call this action 'sin'. Now I could create them without the ability to sin, being that I'm omnipotent and all, but I think I'd rather have someone die on their behalf before I forgive them. Any volunteers???”
Wait, apart from citating REAL Biblical sources, if God created EVERYTHING, with whom, for Godssake(no pun intended)would he "consult" anything?. WTF?
Milton, dear boy. That's Milton. And he did a rather charming job.
Still, I must define your habit of considering Milton and Dante textual as a theologically questionable one.
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