You can't [disprove the theory of evolution]. And it's not fair. If we have to disprove their science using science, then they should disprove our Bible using the Bible.
And their has been no person in history who has disproven the Bible. Those who have tried have all become Christians.
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Oh, like practically all fossil evidence, radioisotopes, slow geological processes, which would make it impossible to have a 6000 year old earth.
GB2- oh, you're already there.
Round n round the logic goes, where it stops nobody knows.
It's like saying something in the Bible is true, because it says so.
"And[sic] their[sic] has been no person in history who has disproven the Bible. Those who have tried have all become Christians."
Care to site all those who have tried and the specific arguments and outcomes?
" And it's not fair"
Tough shit, no one said life is fair.
"And their has been no person in history who has disproven the Bible. Those who have tried have all become Christians."
Of all the people I know who try to disprove the Bible, the vast majority actually become stronger in their conviction.
Actually, the ones who managed to make it to the end, and who then thought about what they had read, went on to become atheists.
Can't disprove the theory of evolution? Does the phrase "fossil rabbits in the Precambrian" mean anything to you?
They use the Bible to see how it contradicts all the time, specially from NT onwards. And disproving evolution with science is logical. If science has reaching the conclusion that we come from a common ancestor with the monkey and they have done so by using methods which enable you to use this computer to spread your message, be consequent and use science if you want to disprove a scientific theory. If you want to believe that God make the world in seven days and snakes speak, live like the guys who lived in the bronze age did, because they reached that conclusion thanks to their technology. This is not an all you can it where you pick and choose for a fix price.
It's funny, many atheists, agnostics and converts to other religions who were first Christians read the Bible and they converted because of its inconsistencies, so, yes, they read it. And well, the Arabs of Al-Andalus read the Bible all the time and they stayed Muslims. Sartre and Nietzche read the Bible and we all know what happened. Many philosophy teachers read the Bible and many are agnostics...........should I carry on?
No, you have to disprove our science using facts .
So if our science says "Dinosaurs died out more than 60 million years before the earliest hominid evolved.", you could disprove it with by finding a couple of fossil Tyrannosauri with half chewed ape-men in their mouths.
And if your bible says "Grasshoppers have four legs.", we could disprove it by finding a few grasshoppers with five legs, or even six.
2 Tim 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.
The most singly most overused verse for "proof" of the Bible by fundies. Now, I'm a Christian, and I still think this is really not good enough.
Um ... the bible is a hodgepodge ... those who've tried to disprove its accuracy have failed only because of the colossal stupidity and pigheadedness of bible bashers. If any of them actually got sucked into it, they had no critical thinking to begin with.
There's a reason there are conmen who specialise in preying on religious groups ...
Wah! It's not fair! Logic shouldn't work the way it does. We should be the ones who are right! Wah!
And don't talk about 'no person in history', shut up and go learn (history, science, logic, even basic theology) for a few years, at least, and THEN come back and talk to the adults. People like you cannot enter adult conversations, you can only destroy them. I don't care if you don't think that's fair, either. Either stay with the child-minds of your congregation or grow up (and then you'll realize what we had to put up with).
Reading the bible and studying its history is what made me an atheist.
Not that I'm bragging. It is a very common experience, after all.
According to the Bible, God is one indivisible being, without beginning or end who is not a man. God does not change.
Yet Jesus was one of the Trinity that had God as three beings, he was born and died on the Cross and was a man. He then changed and ascended to Heaven.
There. Bible disproved using the Bible. Now can you please shut the f*ck up about evolution and other stuff you have no clue about?
I tried to prove the Bible right and ended up as an atheist.
And as for disproving the Bible using the Bible, I'll do what you people do and give you a Bible tract .
they should disprove our Bible using the Bible.
Is it even possible to disprove illogic using only illogic? Just the notion gives me a headache.
Now, using logic (i.e., science), the bible practically disproves itself - there's plenty of stuff in there that's canceled out by other bits.
You can't [disprove the theory of evolution]
Your confusion may come from the fact that, although it *can* be disproved, it *hasn't* been, despite lots of testing. That's why it's so well accepted in the scientific community. See how that works?
And their has been no person in history who has
It's easy to disprove the Bible using the Bible. The problem is that Bible literalists themselves don't use the Bible. They invent counter-arguments out of thin air that aren't found anywhere in the Bible. For example, take the two completely different genealogies of Jesus in Matthew and Luke. Literalists have explained this by claiming one is Joseph's genealogy and the other is Mary's. Another explains it by the possibility of a "Levirate" marriage, where a man marries his dead brother's widow. Both of these are pure ad hoc inventions not found anywhere in the Bible.
And their has been no person in history who has disproven the Bible. Those who have tried have all become Christians.
Of all the people I know who try to disprove the Bible, the vast majority actually become stronger in their conviction.
It is a matter of perspective and biased sampling. If almost all of your friends are church goers and Christians, then most of the people that you know who have tried to disprove the Bible are Christians. However, if you look at the big world outside of your narrow dogma, you will notice the multitude of ex-Christians who have studied themselves out of your religion.
*yawn* Find yourself some Precambrian rabbit fossils. Duh.
Oh, and why don't you disprove the Greek myths. Prove that spiders aren't descended from Arachne after Athena transformed her into the first one. Go ahead, prove me wrong with science. You'll probably have to use evolution to do it.
The Bible contradicts itself. Point: In which order did this happen?
Gospel of Matthew
Same story but not coherent with itself
"And their has been no person in history who has disproven the Bible. Those who have tried have all become Christians."
Your claim requires you to show that every last person who has tried to disprove the Bible has become a Christian. Please submit your independantly verified list of ALL those who have become Christians after trying to disprove the Bible.
P.S. It's an impossible task as I have disproven the Bible and I am not a Christian. Good luck, though.
Dude, a blind, paraplegic gerbil could point out the thing in the bible that disproves itself.
You can see them from space, mother-fucker
I'll play. In the beginning, God said, "Let there be light." And there was, and He saw that it was good. Later, when he got around to it, he made the lights in the sky, the Sun and Moon (even though it's not really a light, and is in the daytime sky half the time- details). Where did the light come from before the Sun?
You're right Natalie, us big meanies shouldn't make you have to use your wittle brain. There are a lot of sciences disproving the Bible all the time. There is very little in the Bible that is based on proven fact, but more a book of good moral stories. Morality is a good thing. Keeps peoples feeling's from getting hurt. Now, off to bed, you have school tomorrow.
Oh my fucking god, really? Cry and bitch, cry and bitch, that's all you people are good for. Devil knows you don't have the brains enough to do any real good in the world.
This(from this thread, even):
You can't [disprove the theory of evolution]
Your confusion may come from the fact that, although it *can* be disproved, it *hasn't* been, despite lots of testing. That's why it's so well accepted in the scientific community. See how that works?
And their has been no person in history who has
1/17/2008 4:28:42 PM "
I think this is the best, most concise refutation of 'Its just a theory' I've seen.
Sure, and all those who have tried to disprove macaroni have become ravioli.
See how easy it is to write complete bullshit?
The BIble is questioned using observations of the real world.
Why does Jesus suggest men castrate themselves to be closer to him, and then elsewhere formid a eunuch to enter the temple ?
It was christian geologists in the early 1800s that determined the Earth to be old, and no evidence of the Flood existed. They started to prove the BIble and wound upi doing the opposite.
Try reconciling the four gospels, particularly the crucifixion, without skipping a single published detail. It can't be done, noted bible scholars have tried and failed. The gospels can't even agree if it took place before or after the Passover sedar.
The bible has been disproved using the bible. Your turn...
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