Evolutionists prey on the ignorant and gullible. They know the vast majority of the population knows nothing of genetics or molecules or bacteria – so that’s where they go for their so-called “proof” of evolution. They like to hide their proof in dark corners where nobody can see it.
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Creationists prey on the ignorant and gullible. They know the vast majority of the population knows nothing significant of science, so they pretend to know something about science. They like to hide their "proof" in dark corneers were nobody can see it, becaue it doesn't actually exist but they pretend it does.
Supersport, the ignorant and gullible just called and they want you to stop talking about them. They were scared someone would associate them with a truly idiotic loser like yourself. PS Include yourself in the vast majority that knows nothing about genetics, molecules, or bacteria. In fact, after reading some of your posts, I think you know less than my 10 year old about science in general!
All this secret information is, as I have said before, stored in highly secret top-security information bunkers known as 'libraries'.
And is supersport claiming to know something about these subjects? Somebody ask him what a molecule is.
Let's see...Evolution is easily available for anyone who seeks it, and the majority of religious functions are an emotionally charged, group psychosis with threats of eternal punishment thrown in for good measure. Wait, what?
SUPERSDISTORT? Phfft. If I had noticed that I wouldn't have even wasted my time.
Ten bucks says if you pointed his browser at Talkorigins, he would convulse, foam at the mouth, yell, "LIES! ALL LIES!" and pass out.
Supersport: the Internet's answer to Frank Sahwit.
"They know the vast majority of the population knows nothing of genetics or molecules or bacteria so that’s where they go for their so-called “proof” of evolution. "
Ahh, but you can fool 'em. You can learn about genetic and molecules and bacteria. No, wait, you can't. You're a fundie. Science is too hard for you.
"They like to hide their proof in dark corners where nobody can see it."
We call these dark corners "science books'.
@BoxerShorts
"Most highly polished mirror ever" award.
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How insidious! Obviously, the vast majority of the population is incapable of learning anything about science. If only someone would invent a method of sharing information - like maybe printing words on paper and then making those words available to the public at large. Or, maybe, in the far distant future, it could even be done electronically, where people could have access to a machine where they need only type in a word and get information on that topic from multiple sources in an instant. But, alas, at the present time there is no way for anyone to learn anything new.
Just because you know nothing of genetics or molecules or bacteria doesn't mean that knowledge is not valid and useful. Your ignorance, or the ignorance of anyone else, is irrelevant in the assessment of what is true.
Evolutionists prey on the ignorant and gullible.
That's why scientists insist that their theories be attacked by experts in their fields, it is called peer review.
They know the vast majority of the population knows nothing of genetics or molecules or bacteria so that’s where they go for their so-called “proof” of evolution.
Really? I always thought that it was only one of many avenues of evidence which leads rational people to believe that evolution occurred. Silly me!
They like to hide their proof in dark corners where nobody can see it.
Like science journals, science textbooks, science lectures, popular science magazines, science web sites. Unlike the "proof" for creationism which is hidden in the dark unfathomable recesses of godddidit and itsamiracle.
Actually I re-read this comment several times before I felt ready to make my own comments. For the first thing evolutionists should be ashamed if they are preying on the ignorant and gullible but only if they allow them to stay that way. Children are by definition ignorant and often very gullible. The keys difference is the evolutionist will present the FACTS such as they are. He'll ask you to make some assumptions but they are assumptions derived from observable evidence and patterns. They don't require huge leaps of logic.
They don't require you to believe that plants were created BEFORE the Sun, or that the female of our species was created from the genetically inferior male or that up until the flood every living thing was herbivorous and it was just an amazing coincidence that sharks and lions had the choppers necessary to hunt and eat other animals.
The most important distinction is that most people who believe in evolution won't condemn you to Hell for not believing. That seems to be a curious preoccupation of the religious-minded.
Fundies don't understand the timescale involved with the evolutionary process, but I can't blame them since, after all, they were fed the 'six days' hogwash as far back as they can remember....
No, a chimpanzee mama did not give birth to the first human. These things generally take, oh, millions of years.
Here's an example. A certain tribe of humans found that having their heads up their asses was a good survival skill, so after many exhortations from their elders, they all assumed the position. There were difficulties, of course, as the human spine was only barely flexible enough for the exercise, not to mention the effort involved with forcing a 1.5-liter cranium through a very small sphincter. Some individuals were better at it than others....
[Enter the process of Natural Selection. Purists will insist this is actually Artificial Selection, but the mechanism is the same.]
...Some people suffered broken necks and fell by the wayside. Others suffocated and fell by the wayside. Yet others decided that having their heads up their asses was counterproductive, so they left to join other tribes.
Still, there were two young people who could live quite happily with their heads up their asses. Adam and Eve, let's call them. When they pulled their heads out from their asses to eat and breathe, they saw each other and fell in love, and eventually spawned progeny which had unusually limber spines. This, they thought, would make the all-important insertion so much easier for their children, so they were thankful.
Adam and Eve died after the usual time span, and their HeadUpAss progeny continued procreating across several generations. Little bit by little bit, baby by baby, generation by generation, it was observed that the HeadUpAss tribe was changing away from the other human tribes. Their spines had become unnaturally supple by normal human standards, and their crania were reshaped to facilitate rectal insertion. They sacrificed approximately 2/3 of their original cranial volume, but they could jam their evolved heads up their asses more efficiently than anyone else.
That's an evolutionary success story.
[PS The HeadUpAss tribe merged with other aberrant fringe groups, and the resultant subspecies has been labelled, Homo Fundius Americanus.]
Woah... replace "evolution" with "creation" and it suddenly becomes true.
I guess supersport is pointing out something important here - the general public does have trouble understanding science, especially in the modern world where it becomes so technical and specialized because we know so much.
I'll just follow one thread for an example. In order to know about evolution, you should understand genetics. In order to understand genetics, you must understand DNA and many concepts and processes associated with it. In order to understand DNA, you must understand some organic chemistry. And this is just one line of evidence. To trace all of these threads back is simply too complex and intimidating for many people, and sounds like garbledegook to them, so they turn to creationism. Goddidit will always be easier for the human mind to grasp than science.
Kent Hovind ("Doctor" Dino) preys on the ignorant and gullible. He knows the vast majority of Southern Baptists from East Bumblefuck, Florida, having slept through science class, know nothing of genetics or molecules or bacteria so Dino Land’s where they go for their so-called “proof” of Biblical creation. He likes to hide his "proof" in dark corners where nobody can see it, because it doesn't exist.
But if more people watched Discovery, History, National Geographic and other channels rather than the televangelists and Phelps channels, maybe you'd know enough basics to understand evolution.
They know the vast majority of the population knows nothing of genetics or molecules or bacteria so that’s where they go for their so-called “proof” of evolution.
Actually, Darwin's On the Origin of Species never mentions genetics, molecules and hardly ever bacteria.
Creationists prey on the ignorant and gullible. They know the vast majority of the population knows nothing of genetics or molecules or bacteria, so they make up a very simple story that even a child can undertand and work on the fact that there are far more people that can understand this than the true scientific answer.
Evolutionists appeal to rational, intelligent people who DO understand genetics.
oh yes!
because libraries and peer-reviewed journals and the Internet are so hard to get to these days!
On the other hand, I'm *perfectly* sure creationist "scientists" don't prey on the ignorant and gullible.
....
oh, wait.
That assumes fundamentalist Christians are smart and stuff! based on websites like FSTDT, that can't be the case.
CASE. CLOSED.
They like to hide their proof in dark corners where nobody can see it.
So... you admit that they do have the proof, though.
I'm very fond of evolution things, and I have started learning biology a bit deeper just to be able to understand the whole process.
PLUS, er, it's the exact opposite. The creationists pretend things and they claim them to be a proof against evolution, whereas nobody have never heard of what they are talking about, and nobody knows anything about it.
Every student has had biology and genetics classes, so everybody is able to understand evolution.
No, it's the religionists that prey on the ignorant and the gullible. The educated ones know about evolution, as they were taught Biology in school.
Yes, proof for evolution can be found in Biology, as evolution is the basis for Biology.
You don't look in an octopus to find evidence of human reproduction, do you?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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