various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Now define cisgender woman
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( OwnLyingEyes )
Within their stupid framework, which is the only place where "cisgender" exists, and using their own stupid terminology, it's actually even easier than in the real world to mark a clear line where 'woman' includes all women and excludes TIMs. An adult who was "assigned female at birth." That one doesn't even require having to weigh phenotype versus chromosomal makeup in the absence of gametes for people with the vanishingly rare DSDs where that actually gets complicated.

Then again these fuckos already know there's a difference which is why they continue to use separate words for the two. So let's make it even simpler for the porn-soaked pea brains: "cisgender women" are women, TIMs are men attempting to mimic women, almost always unsuccessfully. Women are the category you're trying and failing to imitate...and are trying to force your way into, including by making up bullshit terms like "cisgender" to attempt to qualify something that is actually definitive. Hope that clears things up; if not, can speak more slowly.

( shewolfoffrance )
The category of human whose body plan is organized around producing the large gamete.

But, really, the whole question of "what is a woman?" is a bit of a distraction. This isn't about people with DSDs, hormonal disorders, or birth defects being treated with respect and dignity. This is about allowing mentally disturbed, but physically typical men with fully functioning genitalia access to women and children, and the spaces and resources intended for them.

( Calidris )
They really think it's such a gotcha that there is no definition for women that also includes men that makes any sense lmao

Define chair but it has to be defined in such a way that it includes ALL chairs but also doesn't exclude any cat. Yeah duh it's difficult because cats are not chairs and chairs are not cats.

But here's some definitions: human beings who cannot be "transwomen". Adult humans who cannot be autogynephiles. How bout those Mr TIM?

( FemmeEtal )
All cisgender women are born women. All “transwomen” were born men. Easy.

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