Question: Creation Science supporters: Please provide scientific evidence that supports creationism. Not what you think are supposed holes in evolution, but evidence that supports creationism.
Everything is so complex, so perfectly desingned, that there is no way it could have come into existence on its own. Every feature of all organisms has been given to it by God, because He knows what is perfect. It is ridiculous to think that organisms just happen to genetically mutate in a way that is beneficial to it, and then decide to "keep" it.
[Now, that is what I call evidence!]
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"Everything is so complex, so perfectly desingned, that there is no way it could have come into existence on its own."
"It is ridiculous to think that organisms just happen to genetically mutate in a way that is beneficial to it, and then decide to "keep" it."
"God made sex as a way for a husband and a wife to express their love for each other."
"Many people have taken this gift from God and perverted it, most commonly by having sex with people they have very little idea if they want to spend the rest of their life with or not."
"Sex is not just something you do for fun with people you like!"
"It is ridiculous to think that organisms just happen to genetically mutate in a way that is beneficial to it, and then decide to "keep" it. "
That's why biologists don't think this. However creationists do think this.
If you think we are so perfectly designed, please explain to me carpal tunnel syndrome, uterine fibroids and sciatica.
Oh, and FYI, for some people even loving, married, heterosexual sex is still painful. Where is your god in all of this?
Lol @ perfectly designed. I'm sure your world would be a ways different if you were crippled or - LE GASP - struggling with your sexuality. Also, what created god? Any evidence at all ?
Sex is not just something you do for fun with people you like! When a man and a woman have made a commitment that they will spend the rest of their lives as one, then it's OK.
Oh, ok. "Hi, I want to make a commitment to you..can I get down on one knee and...."
Not to mention, it is a lot more special, there isn't that awkwardness between the two of you.
It's okay, we know you're a virgin.
You're an idiot, a sexually inexperienced, sexually repressed, devoid of scientific knowledge nitwit.
"Scientific evidence", it does not mean what you think it means.
Everything is so complex, so perfectly desingned designed , that there is no way it could have come into existence on its own.
If eyes are so perfect, why do so many of them need glasses? Also, it didn't just 'come into existence', but evolved to what they are now.
And the rest reads like mental masturbation. Were you typing one handed?
Think about sex. Do you think something like that could be brought about by chance? God made sex as a way for a husband and a wife to express their love for each other.
Umm, you didn't grow up on a farm, did you? Because if you had, you'd probably have figured out by now that lots and lots of animals have sex. Of course, maybe your God is very interested in beetles expressing their love for each other (or Praying Mantises, right before the wife devours the husband).
@Papabear
you beat me to it
I just don't think that it would be so "great" if it was not designed by a loving God who cares for His creations, and wants the best for us. If it wasn't for His creation of it, it could be a painfull process that people only did if they wanted children. Would you be OK with that? I thought not.
And if you think everything is perfectly designed, kindly experience rheumatoid arthritis from 8 months onward. Then we'll talk about perfect design.
I just don't think that it would be so "great" if it was not designed by a loving God who cares for His creations, and wants the best for us. If it wasn't for His creation of it, it could be a painfull process that people only did if they wanted children.
Now, think about that a moment from an evolutionary standpoint. Bearing and raising offspring takes a lot of energy on the part of the parents with little to no direct benefit in return. So, say you have two sets of creatures. In one, sex is painful and undesireable, in the other, it's pleasurable. Which one do you think is going to have more offspring?
Sex being emotionally rewarding is a direct result of evolution. Primitive creatures without reasoning skills can't comprehend the fact that sex is necessary for reproduction, which is necessary to carry on the species. Therefore, only the varieties that found some personal benefit to sex, and therefore had more of it, passed on their sex-loving genes to the next generation.
"Think about sex."
Okay, I'm thinking about it. Mmmm, yeah...now take the tennis racket and--oh yes, that's the good stuff! Sorry, what were you saying?
I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggonit, someone loves me sexually, who God has chosen to be my eternal partner and soulmate.
Everything is so complex, so perfectly desingned, that there is no way it could have come into existence on its own.
a) That's not an argument for creationism, it's an argument against evolution; so it doesn't answer the question.
b) It's an invalid argument anyway. It's an example of the "Argument from Personal Incredulity" fallacy. In effect, it says "I'm so fu-king smart that if I can't understand how it it could have come into existence on its own, then nobody can".
c) The "design" of life is far from perfect, so the initial premise is false anyway.
d) The argument about sex is ridiculous. The diatribe about the perversion of sex undermines your own argument, since it basically says God screwed up. And how does praying mantis sex "express love for each other"? The female bites the male's head off so his headless body can complete the act a little faster by nerve action. Then she eats the rest of him when he's finished.
e) Even if everything was created, that doesn't mean there was one god, or that god still exists. That's why theologians gave this argument up centuries ago.
So if you go your entire life thinking that this one magical moment is going to define your relationship for the rest of your life, then you go and do it...
You find out that sex feels great, but your partner might really suck at it. Look at it like buying a car without test driving it first or even sitting in it.
Ya wanna talk about awkward? Let's talk about a couple who have never had any physical contact try to have sex the first time on the wedding night. Yeah..sounds hot. :P
"...God made sex as a way for a husband and a wife to express their love for each other. ...
Or for a bull to express his love for an entire herd of cows, and so on and so forth.
How to debunk Creation, with thanks to Dara O'Brien.
THE APPENDIX. How are we PERFECTLY DESIGNED if we have a random organ that DOES NOTHING FOR US except to RANDOMLY TRY TO KILL US?
-debunked-
Everything is so complex, so perfectly desingned, that there is no way it could have come into existence on its own.
We are far from perfect
It is ridiculous to think that organisms just happen to genetically mutate in a way that is beneficial to it, and then decide to "keep" it.
im going to repeat what another person said, 'thats why you got an F in biology'
Think about sex.
you obviously do
A little obsessed with sex are we?
What about animals that reproduce asexually? What about slugs? Slugs are hermaphrodites. They meet, they mate, and both slime away pregnant. Humans are not the only creatures that have sex. Do other animals have marriages? Do dogs wait until they are married? If God designed us perfectly, you would think that our reproductive organs wouldn't work until the ring was on the finger.
Oh and care to explain how the tapeworm fits into your perfect world view?
It is unfortunate that you do not understand the nature of scientific evidence. You fail to understand that scientific evidence for a theory consists in fitting observations, and especially fitting observations which have not yet been made -- that is prediction.
Creationism has never published a prediction worthy of the name. Evolution has made tens of thousands of prediction that were successful.
It is not possible to disprove a scientific theory by asking questions or pointing out subject flaws. Only failed agreement with observations (predictions) can overthrow a theory.
Evidence, motherfucker. You're doing it wrong.
Also, sex. You've got no idea about that, either. Sex and love are like spaghetti and meatballs. They go very nicely together, but it is not an essential combination by any means.
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