[Some people wrote in to About.com Cats to say they object to spaying/neutering on religious grounds!]
Carlie:
Having your animals fixed is morally wrong. Playing God is not our place. If you really love your pets, say NAY to Spay!
C. Blumpkein:
In response to June's comment, "Could someone please tell me which religious text or religious leader explicitly commands that we do not spay & neuter our pets? Seriously. I have never heard of this before."
Does "Thou Shall Not Kill" ring a bell?
By fixing animals and altering God’s divine plan, we are 1) Playing God and 2) Killing potential life.
It's very clear to most.
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God's divine plan is a world overrun with moggies?
Makes as much sense as the Raptards' plan, I suppose.
My cat's response (neutered 5 years ago):
"Hiss, snarl, growl, snarl, hiss/growl!"
It's not that he's still pissed off about the fact that we played GAWD with his gonads; he just can't abide stupidity.
So you rather the cat have kitten then:
A) Dump the poor little dears on the side of the road to starve and die (I saw this on tv once. Granted they were puppies, but still).
B) Drown them?
Is that what you really want?
So, when you have a nocturnal emission, you are guaranteed a one way ticket to hell for killing MILLIONS of potential babies? When you engage in intercourse, and only 1 or 2 of the sperm manage to fertilize an ova, you've also killed MILLIONS of potential babies. Your logic is flawed somewhere.
Could this be a poe? I mean Blumpkein, Bumpkin? Maybe not Carlie, but the other one, sure. Or it could be like those people who have the name Boehner, boner.
Shit, I wonder what fundies think of reptiles then... No, wait, I know I don't want to know...
(Egg layers commonly lay infertile and even virgin eggs and live bearing snakes can lay "slugs" which is usually re-ingested by the female for the calories. Either of those would creep out a fundie I'm guessing. No wonder it was a snake in the garden of their book.)
[Having your animals fixed is morally wrong. Playing God is not our place. If you really love your pets, say NAY to Spay! ]
If you really loved your pets you would spay them. My neighbor didn't spay her cat and it caused her to have kittens all over her yard.
I also hear that it is good for said animals health. Prevents viruses and over-breeding.
[Does "Thou Shall Not Kill" ring a bell? ]
Okay, think about that next time you eat a cheeseburger.
I bet you support the death penalty.
And if we don't spay and neuter our pets, the resulting kittens and puppies will just end up starving to death, being run over by cars, being mauled by coyotes, or ending up being euthanized in animal shelters.
I think I'd rather "kill potential life" (which doesn't make much sense as you can't kill something that doesn't exist, then have lots of actual life end up being killed because of uncontrolled breeding.
No fucking way.
1) Our animals are healthier and happier neutered
2) Potential life is not an argument if the animal is not pregnant. Or do you think men should not have vasectomies and women should not have tubal ligation either?
3) Are we not to be good stewards of what "God gave us"? Does that not include not letting our pets have dozens of babies (in the wild there are factors that limit the number of litters an animal has, in captivity those are overridden by the presence of human protection and the abundance of food, so pets will breed every time they are able, which is very bad for their bodies)? Does that not include preventing our pets' babies from going feral and destroying the local ecosystem?
It is not at all clear, except to you.
Does "Thou Shall Not Kill" ring a bell?
No, it doesn't. The Bible says "thou shalt not murder". And it certainly doesn't say "Thou shalt not prevent birth".
By fixing animals and altering God’s divine plan ...
How could we alter God's divine plan? Are we more powerful than God?
Wow. I guess I'm going to hell for making sure that my dog doesn't develop the compulsive need to hump every leg, chair, and bitch he sees. Keeping there from being more unwanted puppies in the world by preventing said puppies from being conceived? Yeah, that's more evil than letting said puppies starve to death in a gutter somewhere because nobody wants to actually care for them.
"By fixing animals and altering God’s divine plan, we are 1) Playing God and 2) Killing potential life."
I never thought of it that way. Thank you for enlightening me. Oh wait I just realized based on your logic since if you went out and found a random chick and had sex with her that could create a potential life that means if you're not having lots of random promiscuous unprotected sex you're a murderer, because you're preventing a potential life.
I wasn't even *thinking* about quote-mining, and then I came across this and sprinted to FSTDT! I still can't fucking believe it. It's like Quiverfull with kittens. Now, granted, kittens are cute, but still!
Yes because it's not cruel to let them develop diseases that can be prevented by spaying, letting them roam, fights, spray, get poisoned, run over, shot, etc, etc, etc.
Carlie you're a fucking idiot that even PETA would be ashamed of.
Edit:
I think C. Blumpkein is just calling her on it. Seriously, which religious text forbids spay/neuter of animals? The bible goes on and on about oxen, technically an oxen is a steer that's been put in harness (so I'm really not sure what a female oxen is).
Spay a cat, save a bunch of birds and chipmunks.
On the other hand, kill a bird, save a lot of caterpillars.
What are you doing on the computer? You should be in bed, procreatin' away.
Having your animals fixed is morally right, assholes! Having a lot of kittens each year that no-one will want to care for, so they are either put to "sleep" or die of starvation or eaten by bigger animals in nature, is morally wrong.
I really love my pets, and I want them kept from unnecessary hardship. We didn't intend to breed cats, and trying to push a pill into an unwilling cat with sharp claws and teeth, every so often is hardship on us both. Having a routine operation, when they were probably too young to remember, that he recovered from in a day and she in less than a week, is the humane thing to do.
Yes, Thou Shalt Not Kill rings a bell. NOT spaying your cats mean several kittens born from almost every female cat every year, on top of the already unwanted millions and millions of cats in animal shelters or living in the streets or in nature. Who's going to care for all of the extra ones? You? No-one will take care of them, so most of them are going to be put to "sleep" or be killed in nature.
NOT HAVING THEM CONCEIVED IN THE FIRST PLACE IS NOT TO KILL THEM!
This is very stupid to most, dolt!
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