Issac #fundie

Issac #fundie yecheadquarters.org

This is a bumper sticker sold by evolutionists, for theistic evolutionists. Notice the words: "I believe". I believe = having faith. For when something has been proven, belief (to believe) is not needed. So this bumper sticker actually admits to evolution requiring faith. And since evolutionists sell it, they admit to it as well. Evolutionists claim that religion and evolution is a oxymoron. But they just keep making that religious connection.

Side note: Time Magazine (sept. 2006 issue) recently did a special article on our origins (cosmic evolution). The name of that article was: "Let there be light". I wonder why a non-religious, government funded, organization. Would use a religious quote right from a religious book? Regardless of how much they deny it, it's looking more and more like a religion.

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old comment by Berny

The bumper sticker tells me that on the surface there is nothing about the theory of evolution that conflicts with the idea of God. Evolution does not try to explain the origins of life, just its diversity. Only idiots insisting on a literal interpretation of Genesis have a problem with evolution.
As to the headline for the Time magazine article, it was to grab people's attention. It obviously got yours. As to the religious nature of the quote, the Bible is the most oft quoted book in English literature. It's done as a literary device, and is not an indication the person writing has any belief in your religion.
Issac is a moron. A simple visit to his ridiculous website will confirm it to anyone with a brain.

old comment by Orion

Isaac, the word belief and the word faith are two different words with different meanings. Belief can be entirely based on evidence and the word is often used to denote that it is the speakers personal opinion: e.g. "I believe you are a fucking moron Isaac"

Whereas Faith generally denotes knowing something without evidence or supporting someone/something strongly: e.g. "I have faith in God and Jesus to deliver us".

Also the Bible is the most quoted literature in the western world, making allusions to it are common literary techniques to evoke certain emotions, grab attention and be clever about it. It isn't necessarily religious to quote it, just like saying "I await with bated breath" doesn't mean you're automatically a Shakespeare fanatic.

old comment by Rune

""This is a bumper sticker sold by evolutionists, for theistic evolutionists.""

Why do you use the term "evolutionist"? Do you call people who believe in atoms "atomists", too?

""Notice the words: "I believe". I believe = having faith.""

This would depend entirely on the belief, which could have any degree of evidence backing it up.

""For when something has been proven, belief (to believe) is not needed. So this bumper sticker actually admits to evolution requiring faith.""

Wow, look at that leap. A bumper sticker stating that someone believes God created evolution means that... evolution itself requires faith. That's amazing.

""And since evolutionists sell it, they admit to it as well.""

Another leap - someone sells a bumper sticker and instantly speaks for everyone who accepts evolution. Does it work the other way around, too? If you see someone with a Christian bumper sticker you disagree with, does the owner of the sticker speak for you?

""Evolutionists claim that religion and evolution is a oxymoron. But they just keep making that religious connection.""

I see you not only possess the ability to make impressive leaps, but that you also have a wonderful talent at strawman construction, of the Broad Brush classification.

""Side note:""

Oh god, we're still not done?

""Time Magazine (sept. 2006 issue) recently did a special article on our origins (cosmic evolution). The name of that article was: "Let there be light". I wonder why a non-religious, government funded, organization. Would use a religious quote right from a religious book?""

What's with the period. In the middle of your sentence?

Oh, and I'd have thought it'd be obvious why a secular magazine would use religious language - it's written by people who are laregelly religious, in a country that is largelly Christian. Same reason people say "oh my god". It's this little thing called "culture". Look it up some day.

""Regardless of how much they deny it, it's looking more and more like a religion.""

So in conclusion--

a. You have a bumper sticker that it believes God created evolution.
b. TIME magazine once crafted article with religious language.
c. The article was rejected, making the point of b moot.
{????}
e. Therefore, the ToE itself is "looking more and more like a religion".

Please fill in field {????} with the reasoning you used to connect a-c and e.

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