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@pyro: Well, I'd never try to configure it without firewalld or similar, but I felt kind of stupid after Googling iptables because there's no shortage of tutorials for setting it up manually.

On another note, people like this make me ashamed to be a Mac user:

The media loves to bash Apple, always has and despite Apple always proving itself to be the premiere personal electronics of our age they continue to do so. One of the attacks was against Apples new MacBook air and MacBook Pro Retina Display models that have soldered in RAM. Yes, it seems annoying at first blush, but lets be honest, the only people that actually every upgrade their RAM now are poor folks that buy extra cheap Windows machines and realize after its too late that Windows is an inefficient throwback to eighties computing.

When this smug creature says "poor folks," I can't figure out whether they mean "poor" as in "pitied" or "poor" as in "poverty." Either way, it's supercilious AF, and this pretentious fanboy drivel is totally fundie (but "poor folks" is when it crossed the Fundie Event Horizon for me). It's not the usual kind of fundie we get here, but should I submit it? (Y/N)

Also, everything (read "the RAM and SSD") in my MacBook Pro can be upgraded except the CPU. But I have an electronics technician friend who does soldering, and he could probably upgrade that. He was able to upgrade the RAM to 2 GB on my little Creator Ci20 I use as my router/firewall/private server.

More from this batshit-insane Apple cultist:

I finally realized what Apple had been crewing all this time. I believe that the secret to Apple’s thought process is found not so hidden in a new feature called Compressed Memory. This feature cuts your RAM needs by half or more [...] MacBooks with soldered in RAM now seem to behave like system that have double the RAM, eliminating the worry that you’ll run out of RAM.

But you didn't realize how compression works, did you?

3/28/2017 8:49:54 PM


I'm working on sketching a subcompact vehicle made with people like me (I'm 6'8" by the way) in mind.

The headroom is going to be like (front/rear) 40.5"/38.5" and the legroom is going to be 44"/38-39".

I want it to be less than 165" long if possible and the ideal width is 60.5" to 63". I want it to be less than 57" inches tall and have at least 13 cubic feet of trunk space.

It should seat four adults and perhaps a skinny person, or more likely, a child, in the back middle seat, but the middle seat can fold down to become an armrest with hidden cupholders.

I based my research on small imported Japanese and European vehicles from the 1970s and early 1980s, like the Volkswagen Rabbit, Fiat 128, Toyota Corolla, and the Honda Accord. I want the car to take everything good about those old imports, and improve on that.

It will be:
-economical to run, drive, maintain, and repair
-exceptional on gas mileage
-spacious enough for people with long legs to actually be comfortable
-equipped with a remote keyless entry and back-up sensor as standard features, instead of optional
-built like a Tonka truck

and most of all, low-priced. Like under $15,000.

So far I've sketched a two and four-door sedan, a three-door liftback that has shorter rear side windows and a wraparound rear windshield, and a station wagon that may have to be slightly longer because I want there to be a hidden rear-facing two-passenger bench in the back, making the seating capacity seven if the bench is pulled out of the floor and unfolded.

I'm going to go to college as soon as I can so I can become an automotive designer and engineer.

3/28/2017 9:27:13 PM


@Muchacho1994: I wanna see it!! That's so cool, and sounds like you'll be a great engineer.

...freaking tall people. I'm barely 5'7".

BTW, guys, I love DIY projects like this and dxdydz's virtual 8-bit Minecraft (?) computer. (I have a question on your assembly language, though: why are you using an infixed + instead of an add opcode? There are also a couple of arcane load and store related things that aren't really worth nitpicking over unless you're interested in learning more about assembly languages or this computer is super srs bisness to you.)

Oh, and that reminds me: @dxdydz: I just noticed your question about using [Ctrl+Q]. Unfortunately it's generally not a good idea to use JavaScript to, err, control [Ctrl] or any other modifier key for that matter, and I'm very weary of creating keyboard shortcuts that do. For example, IIRC, JavaScript maps its [Ctrl] key code for key-press events to [Cmd] on Mac, and [Cmd+Q] is the keyboard shortcut to quit applications! (And [Cmd+Opt+Q] is Force Quit!) Adding a second modifier key should help prevent it from clashing with other keyboard shortcuts. For example, I could do the Windows/Linux equivalent of [Cmd+Ctrl+Q], I think. It's free on Mac at least. Either way, I can do some key combination or another.

I'm still not a fan of doing this, since Windows, Mac, and *nix users can all create custom keyboard shortcuts and remap existing ones with reckless abandon 'til there aren't any left—but I can easily see why other people would like this idea, so I'll do it if we can find a keyboard combination that isn't mapped to anything by default. Do any of you guys using Windows wanna test whether [Ctrl+Alt+Q], [Ctrl+Win+Q], or [Ctrl+Menu+Q] are browser/application keyboard shortcuts for anything by default (...or worse, global shortcuts)? I'll figure out which one of those is Mac [Ctrl] later today when I'm on my dev machine.

3/28/2017 10:32:53 PM



I have a question on your assembly language, though: why are you using an infixed + instead of an add opcode?

I didn't use opcodes for anything because the computer only has 64 lines of ROM to work with and is rather inefficient at moving data. Due to this low amount of ROM and poor ability at moving data I only gave it 16 RAM addresses (which is still a lot compared to my other machines), this left room for me to address the ALU functions as if they were RAM. I have some different ideas for my next design that will hopefully help shuffle values around better and in turn let me write more complex and more compact programs, but I still probably wont use a separate part of the instruction for opcodes.

A lesser reason why I don't use opcodes is because it's one less bundle of wires to pull through this rat's nest. I've also uploaded more pictures of the machine here.

There are also a couple of arcane load and store related things that aren't really worth nitpicking over unless you're interested in learning more about assembly languages or this computer is super srs bisness to you.

Any suggestions, resources references, or nitpickings would be appreciated. I'd like to hear any feedback really because I have no formal education in computer architecture or assembly languages. I just picked up a few books on Boolean algebra and read a few Wikipedia pages on binary adders, counters, and logic gates. Then I tried to figure out how to throw simple computers together with it through experimentation/trial and error.

As to keyboard shortcuts, I wasn't aware of such issues that could arise in its implementation but Mikey's idea sounds viable.

3/29/2017 10:56:49 AM


The media loves to bash Apple, always has and despite Apple always proving itself to be the premiere personal electronics of our age they continue to do so. One of the attacks was against Apples new MacBook air and MacBook Pro Retina Display models that have soldered in RAM. Yes, it seems annoying at first blush, but lets be honest, the only people that actually every upgrade their RAM now are poor folks that buy extra cheap Windows machines and realize after its too late that Windows is an inefficient throwback to eighties computing.


i didn't come up with that idea for the keys thing. it's something emacs does for a few of its commands like (esc)(esc)(esc) and (C-c)(C-c)(C-c). emacs has a lot of other things too, like a calendar, day-planner, mail reader, web browser, spreadsheet, address book, calculator, irc program, bibliography database, blog updater, personal diary, debugger terminal, machine code disassembler, ftp client, ssh shell, haiku generator, lisp console, and a "psychotherapist". i think there might be a web server and SQL database lost somewhere in all of that. let's find them and run FSTDT on it. we can use emacs lisp to do the FSTDT code that runs on the server.

i have a theory that emacs is where that malaysian airlines flight got lost.

3/29/2017 1:34:09 PM


Triple Q sounds awesome.

The quote about soldered on RAM is a border case. I wouldn't post it. It's classist, yes, but putting it on the same website as a call to bring an end to poverty by ending food stamps and letting them die...

Also, understanding all the subtle problems that RAM compression causes (flipping a bit caused me to run out of RAM?!) requires you to understand computers better than most people do. Being ignorant about computers isn't "darndest," any more than misunderstanding the phrase "a help meet for him." Everybody can't be an expert in ancient English or information theory. FSTDT, as far as I understand it, is mostly about willful ignorance and hate.

3/29/2017 9:50:27 PM


(Retracted: Turns out what I originally posted is not a JavaScript bug, but rather a bug in Nitro, the JavaScript engine used by Safari and the macOS Script Editor utility. It's also a lot less off than I thought, due to some derply miscalculations on my part — though it still has my second keypress press happening two years before my first, even with the correct calculations. That's still obviously wrong, and it's still off for the same reason: the output of in epoch form isn't properly zero-padded. Since I cannot reproduce this behavior anywhere else and it isn't quite as mind-numbingly insane as my original miscalculations led me to believe, I think it's only fair to retract my ragefest and apologize.)

3/30/2017 1:31:59 AM


Yet another post by me here apropos of nothing...

But, I know we've got some fans of anime and /or manga here anyway, amirite? It's not something that takes up a lot of my time by any stretch, but I've occasionally seen various things I really liked, at least.

I kinda stumbled across a series called Monster Musume a few days ago. OK, now that is something right up my alley; a guy who, through one way or another, mostly not his doing at all, ends up having 6 demi-human girls (lamia, centaur, mermaid, etc.) move in with him and all fall in love with, want to have sex with, and want to marry him, because as the story shows, he's really just a genuinely good guy.

I spent several hours reading the manga online, when I really, if I had any damn sense , should have been sleeping.

3/30/2017 9:28:27 PM


I just got the Fibonacci sequence to run on this thing. It has more lines of code than the equivalent program on my older computer because there are no opcodes, but it runs much faster due to better architecture. The constant values C1 and C2 are initialized to 1 and 233 respectively. The reason the second constant is 233 is because it's the largest Fibonacci number the machine can generate without running off the 8 bit width I'm working with. Typically the Fibonacci sequence starts with 0 and 1, but I have set this to start up with 1 and 2 because I'm impatient. Here Rs are RAM, Ds are displays, and Res are registers.

0: 011110|001111|000 C1 to R15
1: 011111|001110|000 C2 to R14
2: 001111|010001|000 R15 to ReA
3: 010000|010010|000 R16 to ReB
4: 011000|010000|000 A+B to R16
5: 010000|010100|000 R16 to D2
6: 010000|010010|000 R16 to ReB
7: 001110|010001|000 R14 to ReA
8: 001001|010000|010 A=B? If T goto ROM#16, if F goto ROM#9.
9: 001111|010001|000 R15 to ReA
10: 010000|010010|000 R16 to ReB
11: 011000|001111|000 A+B to R15
12: 001111|010100|000 R15 to D2
13: 001111|010001|000 R15 to ReA
14: 001110|010010|000 R14 to ReB
15: 000011|010000|010 A=B? If T goto ROM#16, if F goto ROM#3.
16: 000000|000000|111 shutdown

Since the output is in hex it prints 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, d, 15, 22, 37, 59, 90, E9 then terminates. The code could be shorter if I put the jump instruction only in the half of code E9 is generated in.


I understand your difficulty in finding something you like, and when you do find something good you just want to binge the crap out of it. I'm pretty picky and usually only watch the sci-fi ones; Steins;Gate, Ghost in The Shell, Psycho-Pass, and Cowboy Bebop, those were excellent and I binge watched all of them.

4/1/2017 1:50:18 PM



I dunno, maybe it has something to do with me being autistic. When I find something I really like, I become obsessed with it. I call myself a fan of fantasy, for example, but it's really more like, I'm a fan of two long-running series that I got hooked on.

Speaking of anime, though...ever heard of one called "Bastard!!!"?

4/1/2017 11:49:16 PM

Hasan Prishtina

The frog is back

4/2/2017 5:34:26 AM



Speaking of anime, though...ever heard of one called "Bastard!!!"?

No, I have not.

4/2/2017 2:37:28 PM


Love that we finally have SSTDT, looks good, just one very minor pedantic nitpicky point... the title for the SSTDT pages is "SSTDT Posts for..." while the other three sections have the title "XSTDT Quotes for...".

4/4/2017 3:22:28 AM


Thanks for pointing that out. I'll get around to fixing it this weekend at the latest. This is a busy month for me at work.

4/4/2017 2:16:58 PM



Well, that's a slightly more obscure one, I guess, because I've never heard anyone mention it aside from the friends who introduced me to of which was a girl who knew my tastes very well. It was like, OK, near-hentai bits in places, D&D-style swords-and-sorcery action, and a lead character who's kinda morally ambiguous, while being a total bad-ass, and a cocky-as-hell wise-cracker, too...

Yeah, that's right up my alley, alright! Oh, and that's not to mention the references to heavy metal bands and artists they kept sticking in. Like, for example, a lot of the action takes place in the Kingdom of "Meta-Rikana", or "Metallicana" depending on what translation you're looking at. ;-)

4/4/2017 7:42:56 PM


Of all the things....of all the weird facebook conversations...I was just, don't ask me why, talking about mnemonic devices to remember the classification of life by. Ya know, kingdom, phylum, and so forth.

Someone said "King Phillip Came Over For Good Sex" and I thought that was pretty funny...until someone else came up with "Katy Perry Claims Orgasms Feel Good Sometimes" and I just about spit my drink all over the room. LOL

4/5/2017 5:18:12 AM


All good things must come to an end. Fortunatley Cassini has been giving us a great view of Saturn's rings and the moons within them as it prepares to do its 'death spiral'.

Edit: I just noticed that the search function is so much faster now.

4/5/2017 5:12:15 PM

Ambulance Chaser

I really hate Royce E. Van Blaricome. I mean really hate him.

He's probably in the top 5, if not 3, of most annoying people I've ever interacted with.

He's beyond Amos Moses and yes, even afchief. Those guys are like kittens compared to him.

It's the combination of stupidity, smugness, condescension and his complete and utter refusal to have a civilized discussion on any topic that makes him so completely infuriating. Maybe it's his habit of going around giving people "awards" for not being interesting enough to suit his tastes or disingenuously "thanking" them for saying things he seems stupid. Or maybe it's the way he tells you you're wrong, but never says why, and tells you to go look things up yourself when called on his statements.

He's truly a wretched human being.

4/6/2017 6:58:54 AM

Ambulance Chaser

4/6/2017 7:51:17 AM

For Quote #126056 the fundie named should be David J. Stewart not "jesus-is-savior" which is the name of his website.

4/6/2017 2:43:18 PM

Insult to Rocks

So, escalation in Syria is happening. I don't know how to feel about this.
On one hand, I've hated having to just sit back and watch the Syrian people suffer under Assad, and am loath to let Putin ran rampant in the area.
On the other hand, we are obviously not properly prepared for any serious action, and I can't think of a worse commander than Trump....
Damn it, this is frustrating.

4/7/2017 7:55:48 AM


@2039285: Fixed. Thanks for pointing that out!

4/7/2017 8:14:28 AM


Earlier today, before I had heard anything about the Syria attack, I was on a "WebSDR" site (basically, an online shortwave radio that a bunch of people can listen to different things on all at once). Some people were posting things on their message board about tracking an unidentified plane, doing weird things. I found the site they were doing that on, and yeah, there was some "mystery plane" (unusual because 99.9% of the time, if not more, those sites will tell you what kind of plane, where it came from, where's it going, etc) that came out of the middle of Turkey, then spent at least five hours circling a few spots by the Syrian border. That just had to be something to do with the attack, I assume. US drone? AWACS?

I'm a little bit of a radio guy...I've always had SW radios, scanners, even had a CB radio back when that was still kind of a thing. If and when I get my own house, I'll be the guy on the block with the weird-looking antennas on the roof. (Can't really do that in an apartment, you know? lol)

4/7/2017 6:23:36 PM


As an addendum to my radio-related ramblings, I've never got into amateur radio yet, but whoa...for whatever reason, those little handheld 2-band ham radios are now starting to get ridiculously inexpensive. Kinda makes me wanna buy one those and get a license.

4/7/2017 7:54:26 PM

In Quote #126112 there should be a space between the "J." and the "Stewart." Right now it reads as "David J.Stewart" which messes with the search function.


Quotes #126131 and #126132 in the queue have the same problem.

4/8/2017 9:50:38 AM

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