The point I made was not about isolated individuals, but about individuals in a community, and thus about the community worthy of genocide. My guess is that these infants were bio-morally so corrupted that they would be be better off not growing up. Need I mention the atheistic justification for abortion in the 'civilized' world?
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For everyone's information, this was his response to being asked how one justifies the instances of genocide in the Old Testament. His basic argument seems to be that if his purported god says it's all right to exterminate an entire people simply because they fail to conform to doctrine, then this is not only acceptable according to his apologetics, but a moral necessity, and that the mere fact that his purported god tells us to go forth and exterminate these unfortunate people means that the victims in question must necessarily be evil . This, by the way, includes exterminating their children right down to newborn infants, who according to this individual are "bio-morally corrupted" because they happen to be born to parents deemed "evil" by his purported god.
Nice to know that he arrived at this view without once reading Mein Kampf , isn't it?
First, they revise history to suit their warped sense of reality. Then, they start making up words.
It must be a pretty powerful feeling to create your very own world rather than live in the real one.
"The point I made was not about isolated individuals, but about individuals in a community, and thus about the community worthy of genocide."
Why is it nobody ever thinks their society/community/ethnicity/etc is in need of genocide? It's always the other guys that are sooooo evil that they have to be wiped out, right? Amazing.
"My guess is that these infants were bio-morally so corrupted that they would be be better off not growing up."
Bio-morraly corrupted? What the holy fuck are you talking about man? Make sense damn it!
"Need I mention the atheistic justification for abortion in the 'civilized' world?"
Yes. Please, do. I wasn't aware that we had some sort of consensus on it being that we're all individuals who share, and don't share, many varied viewpoints.
You care so much for the life of a fetus in America that you'll never see, but favor holy wars, oil wars, death row, etc. Admit that you are in a death cult, just say it, "I am in a death cult." Its really that easy.
Need I mention the theistic justification for the death penalty in the 'civilized' world?
Fixed.
(BTW, infants are not the same as fetuses, because infants can actually feel pain at the point of birth, fetuses cannot, at least for the first few months.)
May I remind you that a kid being forced to live in a home that never wanted him tends to result in animosity against the kid? And that floating a kid through the adoption system, where there is a decent chance s/he will never truly have a loving family is psychologically damaging?
Is abortion a catch all good thing? No. Does the average woman do it for fun? HELL no. Usually, if it's done, it's done because there is no other choice, be it an inability to care for the child, or an inability to carry the child, physically or mentally. And usually done with a very heavy heart, and great moral conflict.
So according to this theory, a rape victim who gets pregnant, should get an abortion, because the infant is "bio-morally" corrupted? I mean half it's genes come from a rapist don't they?
And considering the number of abortions done in the bible belt, I would not exactly call it atheistic.
Unfortunately, since you've been deemed bio-morally stupid, your opinion does not count, but thanks for playing.
@Ambrielle:
Believe me, he was.
Not least because, like the typical non-rigorous practitioner of apologetics that he was, he was singularly unable to answer substantive questions, including one that I put to him that he did not even acknowledge as existing (a familiar tactic of practitioners of apologetics - pretend it doesn't exist and hey presto, it doesn't!), namely:
"What was wrong with your purported god converting these people instead of arranging for them to be exterminated wholesale?"
I think they'll be serving solid nitrogen ice lollies in hell before he answers that one. :)
Plus, he's had several other posters over there making awkward references to Lebensraum . Don't think we'll see him come back and defend this in a hurry unless he's got balls of solid osmium, or he's terminally stupid. If he doesn't come back, chances are he'll do what a lot of others have done in the past ... walk away, sign up to some mutual appreciation society for fundies such as CARM, and claim "victory" and that he "stuck one to the stupid atheists".
" Need I mention the atheistic justification for abortion in the 'civilized' world?"
Yes, what is that "justification"? You do need to mention what YOU think WE think!
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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