To explain how evolution is impossible, let's take for example an XBOX 360. Let's give it a female counterpart for good luck. If you put them in a house full of food and fresh water, and then give them millions of years, do you think they will ever give birth to a Play Station 3?
No, of course not. The same impossibility applies to any animal today. If you take two dogs, and let them breed for millions of years, are they ever going to produce a non-dog? Like a bird, or a chimpanzee? No, of course not. They will always give birth to a dog.
Here's another example:
Now, my wife is black, and I am white. And the odds of her giving birth to a child... that has wings... is slim to none. Now, in evolution the change has to be beneficial to the species. And flying would be a great benefit. But that's impossible... UNLESS... WE TRY OVER AND OVER AGAIN FOR MILLIONS OF YEARS!
Yes, that's it! The magic formula for evolution is MILLIONS OF YEARS!
We can clearly see from these two examples that evolution is impossible. There is absolutely no logical proof for evolution.
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The first will not evolve because they are inorganic objects incapable of reproduction.
The second will actually most likely undergo some changes. Your evidence that they wouldn't amounts literally to you just saying that they wouldn't.
The third scenario wouldn't occur because the impetus to evolve wings would require a lifestyle for the entire human race that we just don't have. We don't really have any particularly threatening predators, nor do we have particularly tricky prey, nor does the terrain in which live pose that much of a challenge to us, now that we've paved over so much of it. Flying, and the stages leading up to it such as the thinning of bones and gliding, wouldn't actually be, as you describe it, 'a great benefit'. We're more likely to grow bigger brains, if anything. And that's assuming we survive another few million years.
An Xbox 360 cannot procreate, so the point is moot.
For such evolutionary adaptations as wings to be sudden is nearly impossible. Proto-wings would have to precede wings, for example. Not to mention the wings must work. Wings on a human would cause several logistics issues and physics problems.
"If you put them in a house full of food and fresh water, and then give them millions of years, do you think they will ever give birth to a Play Station 3? "
No. Because they're goddamned plastic. You may, however, eventually see a protein chain or the like form on the console's remains that grows a bit more complex and a bit more complex and a bit more complex until something special happens. Something your mental descendants (if your stupidity survives that long) would immediately deny happened while simultaneously claiming credit for.
"Now, in evolution the change has to be beneficial to the species"
No, as a matter of fact, it does not. A mutation need only fail to prevent reproduction to the point that the mutation spreads.
It also doesn't set a goal and work towards it, not that you religitards have any concept of happenstance. You idiots can't burn your fucking toast in the morning without wondering why god burned it (because it certainly can't be as simple as heat + bread + too much time together).
"If you take two dogs, and let them breed for millions of years, are they ever going to produce a non-dog?"
I expect the dogs will be pretty tired after millions of years of breeding.
To explain how you are full of shit, lets take for example an XBOX 360. Let's give it a female counterpart for good luck. If you put them in a house full of food and fresh water, and then give them millions of years, do you think they will ever give birth to another piece of electronic equipment?
No, of course not. Now take two dogs. How long will it take to get another dog? Let them breed for millions of years, and how many organisms will you get?
After millions of years, the mutations will build up until you have something different from a dog. Meanwhile the XBOXs have not produced a single decendent.
That is how full of shit you are.
This is satire. It has to be after the "example" of evolution.
Evolution is not about benefits, its about natural selection.
Wings would not benefit humans, we would have to undergo some serious physical changes for that to happen, and why the fuck would anyone need wings anyway.
To anybody who tries to explain to Mr. Price how evolution actually works, just don't.
It's too late for that. The stupidity is terminal at this stage, and now there is no cure or course of treatment.
I actually formulated Varlo's corollary to Poe's Law stating that 95% of all things thought to be Poe are not, but even I think this must be a five-percenter. No one so utterly, monumentally stupid could survive long enough to learn to read or write.
For your child with wings, that depends. If you mean a sixth set of limbs, sort of like angel wings, that couldn't feasibly happen. Adding a new set of limbs to a human is a lot more complex than adding a new set to a prehistoric ocean dweller.
XBOX 360 are assembled in factories, dearie, they don't reproduce sexually.
If you take two wolves and let them breed for millions of years, they will produce dogs.
Evolution doesn't say that one species will produce a completely different species, only that with time, the little changes in each generation will accumulate into large changes.
The odds of her giving birth to a mulatto child, however, is almost 100 percent. Which is in accordance with Evolution.
The beneficial changes are the ones that are kept through natural selection, but they sometimes carry with them less beneficial changes too.
We can clearly see from these two examples that you're an imbecile who don't have the foggiest idea what the ToE actually says.
There are literally mountains of evidence for evolution.
...You can't be this stupid. You just can't. How can a human still be this stupid and still be able to remember how to breathe?
I mean, I know a lot of creationists aren't the sharpest tools in the box, but how in the name of everything that's logical and meakes sense do you possibly make the connection from "game consoles can't reproduce" to "ergo, evolution is impossible".
Brian... If you and your wife are both humans, and she gives birth to a child with wings, you will have just refuted evolution, AND verified creationism.
This is EXACTLY what your side needs, since the theory of evolution predicts that it can NEVER happen, while the creationist mythology sources all say it CAN.
If you take two dogs, and let them breed for millions of years, are they ever going to produce a non-dog?
Sure, if conditions change and there's a survival advantage to being something else.
I mean, technically if they already have sexes, as you presuppose, then they're already pretty non-standard XBOX 360's so they might actually mate. I cannot comment on such such cyborg game systems.
I find it frightening that someone can be this fucking stupid.
1. XBOX 360s don't biologically reproduce.
2. The same 2 dogs would never produce a non-dog no matter how often or how long they bred. However a population of dogs, with normal mortality, reproducing over millions of years could very well result in something different from a dog. Populations evolve not individuals.
3. As for you and your wife, see #2.
"Yes, that's it! The magic formula for evolution is MILLIONS OF YEARS!"
By Jove, I think he's got it! Congratulations!
"To explain how evolution is impossible, let's take for example [soemthing that has no bearing or relevance to biological evolution or the natural processes seen to give rise to biologically diverse species populations, and then on top of that presume goal orientation. I'd have to be an idiot to suggest this was analogous to evolution, right?]
FTFY
"To explain how evolution is impossible, let's take for example an XBOX 360."
I'm gonna stop you right there.
Even assuming that the Xboxes could actually mate and procreate, which they can't, no they won't eventually make a PS3 no matter how many millions of years you wait for the Xbox population to produce one. What, to keep with the analogy, you would eventually get is an Xbox One, though. Meanwhile, a population of PS3s will never produce an Xbox 360, though, again keeping with the analogy, they would eventually produce a PS4.
Why are they mating anyway? Please have your console spayed or neutered.
"To explain how evolution is impossible, let's take for example an XBOX 360. Let's give it a female counterpart for good luck. If you put them in a house full of food and fresh water, and then give them millions of years, do you think they will ever give birth to a Play Station 3?"
Considering game consoles don't reproduce, or eat food, or have 'female counterparts', yes, this would be impossible.
"Now, in evolution the change has to be beneficial to the species."
Not necessarily.
"We can clearly see from these two examples that evolution is impossible."
That's because you're two examples are retardo-pants and very much outside the realm of reality. Machines don't breed, and you don't get a beneficial mutation just because "omagerdz flying is teh kewl!"
@toolyking:
I wanted to write something similar. To further add to the analogy: Game consoles could also be used as an example of speciation. Despite sharing one or more “common ancestors”, the PS3 and the XBOX360 evolved enough along their respective development lines that they cannot longer share games or periphery. Kind of like animals from different species cannot longer procreate despite having common ancestors.
What the fuck is this shit?
What the hell would a "female counterpart" of an Xbox 360 even look like? Are the old Xbox 360 models that frequently red ring of death-ed male? Does the colour or hard drive size determine the gender?
I don't think you want to give your Xbox 360s water, either, considering that's a great way to destroy your console. Same with food, because the only food your 360 should be eating is electricity (if your 360 eats your game disc there might be something wrong with your console).
"To explain how evolution is impossible, let's take for example an XBOX 360. Let's give it a female counterpart for good luck. If you put them in a house full of food and fresh water, and then give them millions of years, do you think they will ever give birth to a Play Station 3?"
Nope. That's not how it works. First, your 360 red-rings, and is then sent back to the Microsoft factory, where it undergoes a predicted 2 week long process(that in reality takes about half a year) which turns it back into a fully functioning X-box, just in time for it to evolve into the X-Box One. The next step in this tree will most likely be extinction.
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Oh my sweet, seven-headed, laser-breathing fuck where do I even begin.
To explain how evolution is impossible, let's take for example an XBOX 360. Let's give it a female counterpart for good luck. If you put them in a house full of food and fresh water, and then give them millions of years, do you think they will ever give birth to a Play Station 3?
What.
Okay, Brainy, first: XBOXes are not fucking alive. I was over the idea that our family car was alive and we could go on magical adventures together at the age of 6.
Second: what the fuck is a "female XBOX?" Seriously, what is even the fuck?
No, of course not. The same impossibility applies to any animal today. If you take two dogs, and let them breed for millions of years, are they ever going to produce a non-dog? Like a bird, or a chimpanzee? No, of course not. They will always give birth to a dog.
I usually come to this blog to laugh at fundie lunatics, but there's this one misconception that always launches me face-first into boiling red rage:EVOLUTION DOESN'T MEAN ALREADY EXISTING ANIMALS TURN INTO EACH OTHER MAGICALLY YOU IGNORANT FUCK! IT MEANS THAT THEY SLOWLY CHANGE!!! RAAAAAAARGH!!!
*huff huff*
Sorry. Moving on.
Here's another example: Now, my wife is black, and I am white. And the odds of her giving birth to a child... that has wings... is slim to none. Now, in evolution the change has to be beneficial to the species. And flying would be a great benefit.
...
...Seriously?
Fukkin' seriously?
*sigh*
Dude, you don't even need to be an evolutionist to understand why this is capital bullshit. Flight is not beneficial to humans at all. We simply wouldn't need it due to the simple fact that we managed to subsitute flight with machinery (e.g. airplanes). Also, evolution doesn't grow you what you want, it grows you what you need fucknuts.
And why in the sweet name of fuck would a child of a white man and a black woman start a bloodline of birdmen? Is this what they call non-sequitur?
UNLESS... WE TRY OVER AND OVER AGAIN FOR MILLIONS OF YEARS! Yes, that's it! The magic formula for evolution is MILLIONS OF YEARS!
Now you're just being bitter and you're revelling in your own "right". Stahp. Pleaws.
We can clearly see from these two examples that evolution is impossible.
These are not examples.
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There is absolutely no logical proof for evolution.
However, here's a real proof for ya. It proves that you don't know jack shit about logic.
My work here is done.
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