When somebody tells me that they do not believe that non-material explainations are valid, I allways ask them how they account for mankind's innate God-knowledge. This perception of God, and our ability to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is a great example of something that will never be explained by materialism.
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"When somebody tells me that they do not believe that non-material explainations are valid, I allways ask them how they account for mankind's innate God-knowledge.
"In response, they always roll their eyes and tell me my arguments make no sense. This too proves that I am right and they are wrong!"
Overwhelming evidence of what?, listen dude, it´s true that humans are inherently religious animals, ok. But it doesn´t mean that their relationship with God is the same at all levels and, in fact, the religious fact per se can be perfectly explained with worldly psychology and materialism. In fact, since you don´t go clubbing with Jesus, and you employ vague notions, your argument sinks.
Innate God-knowledge? I think it's more along the lines of over active imaginations, and an incredible willingness to swallow whatever lies make you most comfortable. As for the "innate" part, people are hit over the head with religion all of their lives. If people seem to have this knowledge from an early age, it's because others have been trying to indoctrinate them since almost as soon as they drew breath.
When somebody tells me that they do not believe that non-material explainations are valid, I allways ask them how they account for mankind's innate ability to perceive the color blue. This perception of the color blue...is a great example of something that will never be explained by materialism."
In other words, it's just another facet of neurology, 'kay? It ain't magic.
...innate God-knowledge.
What do you even mean by innate God-knowledge? Then why do religious ideas differ so much, including atheist religions (Buddhism)? I would point out that many children invent life-stories for their TOYS, yet that doesn't mean there is a mystery to be solved. As soon as the child understands that toys aren't alive they forget all about their early-life animism, unfortunately the case is not the same for religious beliefs. God is an imaginary friend for grown-ups, obviously he can do much more than play with you, he "creates" stuff and so on.
...personal relationship with Jesus Christ...
Why not Allah, Lord Brahma or Zeus?
Ah yes, of course, Christianity does not rely on materials to preach its word, its all based on faith. They aren't so weak in their beliefs that they need some sort of tome to chronicle all of what they know to be true. They don't need a book telling them how to live their life!
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Really? And how do they respond to your question, then?
I'm sorry, but there have been a number of different perfectly naturalic hypotheses about why human beings are so inclined to believe in gods. We may not be sure to what degree each of these explanations are true, but these explanations certainly exist. Some day, you are going to come across someone who knows this, so I highly advise that you try to come up with something that actually doesn't have a material explanation.
Prove that a rainbow doesn't physically exist, then.
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If you can see it, therefore it must exist. Now produce your 'God', otherwise you've proved he doesn't exist; also, Rainbows prove that the so-called 'Spiritual'/'Supernatural' is a load of bollocks. NEXT!
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So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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