We don't believe in God because we need a moral standard. We beleive in God because He exists. And we follow Him because He knows the moral standard better than any of us. And we love Him, because He loves us, despite the fact that He hates us.
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"We don't believe in God because we need a moral standard."
Me either.
You're saying God exists does not make it so. Please provide proof that God exists.
Your Bible states otherwise. Are you saying the Bible is full of lies or are you saying your God is a peety, genocidal asshole?
Riiiight.
...Wait, what?
What the FUCK? My head...Agh!
We could have morals without God, but we ask him just in case, and we believe in him and love him because he loves us and we know this because at the slip of a toe he will throw unmercilessly into eternal hellfire.
"And we love Him, because He loves us, despite the fact that He hates us."
Do you understand what you just said?
"And we love Him, because He loves us, despite the fact that He hates us."
There's nothing as lovable as a confused psychotic.
"there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!
But, He loves you."
-- George Carlin
Yep that's your abusive sky-daddy for you. Everything you do is absolutely repulsive to him. He sends evil and natural disasters your way to test you. He leaves no hint of his existence other than one convoluted book. He makes people born with birth defects. Rewards the bad while punishing the good. Even sacrificed himself to himself to lift a curse that he created, and if you don't believe that, you will suffer for all of eternity.
But remember, he loves you.
"We don't believe in God because we need a moral standard."
Good, because moral standards are society's way of protecting itself.
"We beleive in God because He exists."
"And we follow Him because He knows the moral standard better than any of us."
Yet, if you followed God's "moral standard" He encourages treating women like second class citizens and ostracizes peopel based on their orientation.
"And we love Him, because He loves us, despite the fact that He hates us."
The only reason to believe in God is because that belief prompts action on your part - action to become a better person and then spread that to those around you so they can become better people.
"And we love Him, because He loves us, despite the fact that He hates us.
Never before in history has so much fail been contained in a single sentence. You, sir, have just brought the word "stupid" to a whole new level.
I hope there's a special level in hell reserved for people who're so stupid they make god weep.
[We don't believe in God because we need a moral standard.]
Fair enough. This invalidates the "Athiests don't believe in God and therefore have no morals" canard we've been hearing ad nauseam, so that's fine with me.
[We beleive in God because He exists.]
This is totally circular, but as long as you keep it to yourself, it's fine by me.
[And we follow Him because He knows the moral standard better than any of us.]
How hard is it to have a set of morals? Is the "Golden Rule" so hard to follow?
[And we love Him, because He loves us, despite the fact that He hates us.]
I'm sorry--I'm trying to be patient, but I can't let this one slide. Do you not understand that this is obviously contradictory?
Say what? Seriously, do these people ever read what they write? "And we love Him, because He loves us, despite the fact that He hates us."
I'm going to say it's not a Poe, if only because I've seen so many actual relationships like this.
"I don't want to hurt you, baby. I love you. Why you gotta make me hurt you?"
Mr. Dark Room:
This is a cease and desist order delivered on behalf of my client, God. Our Father who art in Heaven (hallowed be His name) requires you to cease and desist using his name, attributes, and likeness in all future internet forum posts. This notice was conceived due to the embarrassment you have caused Him by constant misrepresentations of His position.
Yours,
Steven Dallas, Esq.
P.S. F*** you.
"And we love Him, because He loves us, despite the fact that He hates us."
Kinda like one of those guys who smacks his girlfriend around?
For You are not a God who takes pleasure in wickedness,
But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
"And we love Him, because He loves us, despite the fact that He hates us."
He only hits me because he loves me! Srsly!
So the little asshole comes here to call us all stupid, eh? Well, we don't get our morals from shitty bands or psychotic imaginary freaks, unlike you. Seriously, you little shits murder at the drop of a hat and you call us amoral?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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