"Reason2012:
You're citing a president, not the Constitution, which shows you're just being dishonest. "
Ah, Unreason1012; But it's a quote from Presidents about The Consitution....which Jefferson was a MAJOR player in writing. Would you prefer that TheKingOfRhye post the FIRST AMENDMENT as well so you have nothing else to retort?
Of course; Despite what TheKingOfRhye posted....which SO OBVIOUSLY PROVES THEIR CASE....and SO OBVIOUSLY EXPLICITLY SPEAKS OF THE CONSTITUTION FROM ONE OF THE WRITERS....which SO TOTALLY OWNED YOU....you continue to argue rather that admit TheKingOfRhye had proved their point. If you had REASON (as your username states), you would be humbled and stop and think....and say, "Woah....Maybe you're right, TheKingOfRhye".
....but no; You continue to argue and pretend TheKingOfRhye proved nothing....despite them owning you to no end.
Let's cut to the chase; You and your ilk don't give a DAMN about the U.S. Constitution. You know the Country was founded as a secular nation that honors all faiths and no faith....which....ideally....should be a Progressive Universalist Nation of Nations, Cultures, Colors, etc....
....That gets your goat that mythical Roman-based Deity, Lady Liberty, is the "God" in whom "We Trust" and you want to tear it all down and create "The Theocratic People's Republic of Jesusland" where Wahhabi-level Mosaic-inspired Shariah reigns supreme....yet oddly mixed with the trappings of Leave It To Beaver and The Andy Griffith Show.
You know; The Leave It To Beaver lifestyle was only made possible due to the work of Progressives, right? All those Unions, Labor Laws, The New Deal, Social Security, The GI Bill, "Rosie The Riveter", etc?
Progressivism brings life, stability and ease and a high quality of life. Wingnuttery only brings division and only a privileged few get a high quality of life. Look at places like Norway, Iceland, Sweden and Denmark....then look at Uganda, Iraq and Afghanistan. Iran, Dubai and Saudi Arabia only appear modern in places due to a rich thriving oil industry. Iraq has oil too but we trashed that place with two Gulf Wars.
Would you rather live in a nice, clean, safe place like Norway or a mess like Uganda, where war and poverty reign supreme?
You and the ChristoFrums wouldn't know Jesus if he appeared before you on the street and raised roadkill from the dead! Even Jesus was fine with a Religion/State separation (which is one of the many meanings of the 'Render unto Caesar/God' quote. Not to mention that Jesus' 'Kingdom is not of this World'). Even the most noble a peaceful faiths get perverted into a brutish mess when Religion and State mix. Keep both separate and both remain pure.
The 17th Century Puritans were NOT The Founding Fathers. A group of 18th Century "Age of Reason"-inspired statesmen were. The Founders were Deists, Unitarians, Agnostics, Nominal Moderate Christians and members of The Freemasons. One of them, Ben Franklin, was also a brilliant scientist, inventor, journalist, humorist, satirist and even a rather prolific "Ladies' Man" who actually respected his many flings as people and he highly valued strong, intelligent, mature women. These were "Voltaire" men, not "Cromwell" men.
....Jesus of Nazareth was more "Woodstock" than "The Crusades" and all you ChristoFrums should be ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES!
YOU ALL JUST WANT POWER AND CONTROL AND TO USE RELIGION TO ACHIEVE IT! YOU ARE WEAK! YOU YOU FEEL YOU NEED TO LORD OVER AND HURT OTHERS TO FEEL SECURE THEN...YOU...ARE...WEAK!!!
GO TO HELL AND TAKE YOUR DEMIURGE (THE REAL DEVIL) WITH YOU....YOU....PINEAPPLE-BUTTS!