People that dont have sex before marriage and stay faithfull I bet get an std about one in every one million people. I am confidant this very very rarely happens. Its people like (no offence) you that try to tinker with the rules that get this stuff while trying to follow them.
Divorce happens more rampant because we think the grass could be greener on the other side of the fence and we are very spoiled, ungodly people now, more than 30 years ago. Not a fact but that is why.
Children are unhappy because of several reasons. Dumb drunk people hooking up and having unwanted children. They end up not getting loved and are therefore unhappy. Parents cheating, and destroying the family because of lack of love once again. If you take love out of sex it just destroys people. You will see if you and your boyfriend continue on your path.
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People that dont have sex before marriage and stay faithfull I bet get an std about one in every one million people.
You're missing the point. That may be true, but it's damn hard for most people to suppress millions of years of reproductive instinct by pure will, and it's not the only way to do it . All you need's a small piece of rubber of a certain shape, for crying out loud.
Actually, divorce, STDs, and unwanted children are more strongly correllated wtih lack of education than with premarital sex. You lose.
So your whole point is that two people who are both virgins when they get married, and stay faithful throughout their lives, are very unlikely to contract an STD?
Um...is there an FDTDT "No Shit, Sherlock" award? The problem, Mr. Frederick, is that statistically, worldwide, less than 15% of people refrain from sexual contact before marriage. Less than 15%. And this has held steady for as long as sociologists have been studying the sexual behavior of humans. So we had better educate the other 85% so they don't pay for their choice (be it right or wrong) with their lives.
I had sex before marriage. I had it, among other people, with the man who later became my husband. I loved him. Our monogamous relationship lasted 16 years. Have you even been alive that long, Shaun Knowitall?
Actually, the divorce rate has been declining since about 1980. There was a surge right after WWII, then another one in the sixties and seventies, but it has been dropping since then.
If your first thesis is true, I wonder why AIDS is so prevalent in Africa, where premarital sex is taboo, or how it was possible to spread syphillis in 19th century. And your second thesis about the greener pastures..............the number of mistresses that men hold in the past is even bigger than today. And children are mistreated too in functional families. Don't say nonsenses you can't back.
Well, yeah, if two people only have sex with each other all their lives they'll only have STDs if one or both them was born with it or got it accidentally or something.
The thing is people *like* sex, and the protections we have against STDs are helpful. Sex is a good thing. People should have more of it if they can do so safely.
Divorce is an essential freedom, too. You shouldn't force someone to stay with someone they don't like. Freedoms sometimes hurt people, but the absence of freedom usually hurts them more.
Or conversely, if you attempt to force love onto sex, you get just as much of a monster. Love has to be allowed to grow and blossom and sex is just one aspect of that growth. Fundamentalists don't want there to be anything like love except in one of their sanctioned relationships. I wouldn't be surprised to hear of more than a few relationships where the people waited to have sex had gone sour because the couple realised they weren't compatible.
"People that dont have sex before marriage and stay faithfull I bet get an std about one in every one million people. I am confidant this very very rarely happens."
There's the difference between you and me. You just have faith in the stats you seem to have pulled from your own nether regions, while I would go and look it up.
But wouldn't ya know it, the World Health Organization section on STI's is down right now.
Thirty years ago was the swinging Seventies, when divorce and disco both became socially acceptable. How are we more spoiled now, with all these fundie fuckwits spouting their sanctimonious gibberish at every opportunity?
Divorce is extremely hard on people, especially on children, and nobody is denying that. But being trapped in a loveless marriage, or seeing your parents fight all the time, is worse--I saw that with my own folks.
People are going to screw. You better prepare them to handle it responsibly.
"If you take love out of sex it just destroys people. You will see if you and your boyfriend continue on your path."
If the first sentence was on its own, it would make sense. A lifetime of drunken one-night stands would not be fulfilling. However, the second sentence ruins the whole premise. How do you know these people don't love each other, huh Shaun? Were you present in their bedroom? No, I'll bet dollars to bent nails that you don't even know them, you nasty hypocrite.
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