"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
So begins the Bill of Rights with the first amendment to our Constitution--one that guarantees a God-given freedom. For over 200 years the light of the church has illuminated this freedom, but now a radical agenda seeks to extinguish that flame.
The expansion of non-discrimination laws to include homosexuality inevitably constricts our right to express and act on our religious beliefs. Recently, there has been a string of incidents involving government intolerance against those who live out their faith in the public square.
To respond to this growing threat, I'm pleased to announce that on October 15, 2006, FRC will host a nationwide simulcast from Boston, Massachusetts called "Liberty Sunday: Defending Our First Freedom." I invite you to join us as we examine the cultural and legal influences that threaten to erode religious liberties and muzzle free speech.
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I'm going to convert to Odin-worship and bring back the Norse sacrifice to Odin called the "blood eagle." This is where you cut open the victim's back, crack open his ribs, and pull out his lungs so they resemble wings. I'm sure Tony will defend my religious liberties and volunteer to be my first sacrifice.
What line in the Bible tells you "thou shalt not live in a country that allows homosexual couples to have the same legal marriage rights as heterosexual couples?"
The expansion of non-discrimination laws to include homosexuality inevitably constricts our right to express and act on our religious beliefs.
You don't know what 'free speech' means, and you don't know what 'freedom of religion' means. Please stop representing my country, stop lying, and sit the fuck down.
So by Tony's logic, if Muslims invoke fatwa on you for insulting the Prophet, as they did with Salman Rushdie, the First Amendment prevents the government from stopping your assassination, because that would erode their religious liberty.
"So begins the Bill of Rights with the first amendment to our Constitution--one that guarantees a God-given freedom."
"The expansion of non-discrimination laws to include homosexuality inevitably constricts our right to express and act on our religious beliefs."Uh huh, and the anti-murder laws infringe on the Bible's command for believers to kill those who try to convert them to any other religion. Shall we repeal those murder laws?
What if my newly formed religion forbids Xians from marrying? Would you're getting married would infringe upon my free practice of my religion?
Well, you missed a little detail. Freedom of religion doesn´t mean FREEDOM TO IMPOSE YOUR RELIGION. And Freedom of religion doesn´t mean FREEDOM TO COMMIT CRIMES USING RELIGION AS A WAY TO COMMIT ABUSES. That´s the real problem, you know, that your religion´s limits coincide with mine.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
Yes. Now start listening to it.
...one that guarantees a God-given freedom.
No, it doesn't guarantee a god-given freedom. It guarantees a basic human right that we're all entitled to simply because denial of it to anyone would cause more suffering than allowing it, which would be immoral.
For over 200 years the light of the church has illuminated this freedom...
Oh, come on! The First Amendment was drafted specifically to prevent the church from violating people's rights, which it had been doing for hundreds of years.
...but now a radical agenda seeks to extinguish that flame.
Yeah. The church itself. They want "freedom" to apply only to Christians and only when the church allows it.
The expansion of non-discrimination laws to include homosexuality inevitably constricts our right to express and act on our religious beliefs.
No it doesn't! You are not allowed to discriminate against anyone for any reason! Your freedom of religion entitles you to think that homosexual marriage, or homosexuality, or even gay people in general are wrong or evil, but gay people have a right to marry regardless of what your religion says.
If gay people aren't allowed to marry because it violates Christians' freedom of religion, then Christians are not allowed to live because it violates Muslims' freedom of religion.
Recently, there has been a string of incidents involving government intolerance against those who live out their faith in the public square.
New rule: People who control everything can't complain that they're underdogs!
Christians control the White House, the Senate, the House of Representatives, the Supreme Court, and (I believe) all state governments. You can't complain that you're persecuted by the government because you fucking run the government!
I'm really sick and tired of Christians claiming that they're being "presecuted" or subjected to "intolerance" whenever anyone denies them totalitarian power over other peoples' private lives.
To respond to this growing threat...
Growing threat of what? Not being allowed to force everyone to obey your orders? Not being allowed to kill people who disagree with you?
...I'm pleased to announce that on October 15, 2006, FRC will host a nationwide simulcast from Boston, Massachusetts called "Liberty Sunday: Defending Our First Freedom."
Stupid, the First Amendment does not give you the right to force others to live according to your religious beliefs. In fact, it specifically prohibits that. You morons are insisting that your First Amendment rights are being violated because you aren't allowed to violate other peoples' First Amendment rights.
I invite you to join us as we examine the cultural and legal influences that threaten to erode religious liberties and muzzle free speech.
You want to examine the cultural and legal influences that pose a threat to free speech?
Here's a mirror. Take a look in it.
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Okay then.
Throw you a hypothetical here, then. My religion states that if someone says the word "moist" I am compelled to kill them in the most gruesome way I can imagine, as that word is an affront to my God. Do you support my right to butcher you like a cow when you ask for a moist towlette on Wings Night?
Europe became free by removing church power, make no mistake about that, even under Kingdoms the freedoms began once the church was defanged. America was formed by people from countries with the church defanged as a cultural given.
Stop taking credit for something you had nothing to do with. Stop pretending freedom (liberty) and theocracy (dictatorship) have anything in common.
God didn't give any freedoms, stupid!
"no law respecting an establishment of religion" means "America shall have no State Church", silly!
Oh noes! Not non-discrimination laws! WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!
Homosexuality is barely even mentioned in the Bible. Caring for the poor and sick IS, time and time and time again. How are you doing with Universal Health Care and Living Wages? Those are clearly part of that "right to express and act on your religious beliefs".
Well, you've shown an incredible intolerance against those who live out their sexual orientation in the public square, haven't you? What goes around, comes around.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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