How can a book be written that no one disputes is full of the most profound moral teaching be based on the greatest lie of all time and that lie be perpetuated for a 1000 years by 66 authors? Like how? That by itself should be SOME proof. But that's hardly proof compared to how that teaching has inspired people to build great buildings, compose great music, pioneer science, hop on the Mayflower and form the USA.... My point is atheism doesn't have that affect.
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Yeah.
O.K.
Mmm hmm.
News flash...
The bible is filled with lies, your god is a murdering asshole, there is no heaven. Or hell.
That will be all. You may go.
I missed something. When did everyone agree that the bible is "full of the most profound moral teaching." Am I the last? Gosh I still think it's full of hate, killing, confusion, and bullshit.
"a book...that no one disputes is full of the most profound moral teaching"
(*Sips cola* *doublettakes* *spits cola all over screen in fit of laughter*)
"[How can] a lie be perpetuated for a 1000 years by 66 authors"
Is it really that hard to believe? Harder than believing that they were all psychically tapped into a magical source, from which they obtained perfect, inerrant knowledge about our world and other worlds? Because, between the first and the second, I'll take the idea that it is an unfalsifiable "lie," perpetuated by the aid of superstition, guillibility, genunine delusion, misinterpretation, and self-interest every time.
"hardly proof compared to how that teaching has inspired people to build great buildings, compose great music, pioneer science, hop on the Mayflower and form the USA"
(*Cola from screen collects and flies back into mouth* *doubletake* *spits out cola in fit of laughter again*)
You think that none of that was possible without the Bible? Rich...just rich!
The Bible has some profound moral teachings. It also has inconsistencies, historical inacurracies, factual errors, and horrible depictions of immoral behavior and bronze age prejudice.
A book that noone disputes and that is full of moral teachings?
Could it be the fairy tales of the brothers Grimm?
Noone disputes them because they don´t claim that the tales are true and they are full of moral lessons. Sounds like it fits prfectly.
But AFAIK it is much younger than 1000 years and hasn´t inspired people to build skyscapers
"But that's hardly proof compared to how that teaching has inspired people to.....hop on the Mayflower and form the USA."
Well, he's right about this one, no group of people has practically destroyed a people and their culture in the name of atheism.
Atheism isn't meant to inspire or do much of anything. It's a default or at most a rejection of previous attempts at indocrination toward theism.
Very few people think the bible is full of the most profound moral teachings. I've read far more and far better books that teach stronger moral codes than the bible. In fact, I can't think of a single book I've read that has a flimsier and less humane set of morals. I'm including books about serial killers here.
@Allegory For Jesus:
Your demonstration of your laughter at this quote has made me send cherry juice flying all over my keyboard, screen, and mouse, you poop. =P
In NO WAY do I not dispute that the Bible is "full of the most profound moral teaching." The Bible is full of small smatterings of poorly recorded history, diluted with huge amounts of made up crap. It contains gross violence, injustice, misogyny, racism, xenophobia and many other ridiculous assertions all stuck together with almost uniformly awful prose.
You have no idea what constitutes proof.
Bible stories have indeed inspired some great music, but great buildings? Science? Founding the USA? Pinch yourself bdn, you're in Fundie dreamland.
"How can a book be written that no one disputes is full of the most profound moral teaching be based on the greatest lie of all time and that lie be perpetuated for a 1000 years by 66 authors?"
Ia! Ia! Cthulu ph'tagn!
Praise the Unholy Necronomicon!
Torah, Quran, Greek / Roman temples.
Argument ad populum is false.
... a book ... full of the most profound moral
teachings ...
C'mon, Sears hasn't published that catalog in years.
JEFFERSON: I have been reading the Bible, and it has inspired me to luanch a rebellion against British rule!
MADISON: Yes, indeed, for it says, does it not, that it is right and just to rise up in illegal rebellion against your god-anointed King ... doesn't it? Um ... I'm sure it was in here somewhere ... hamg on ...
SALLY: You going to give me my freedom yet, Mars' Jefferson?
JEFFERSON: Shut up, nigger. I'll come and fuck you in a bit.
Dumbass, not everyone agrees, in fact, the majority of the world disagrees. Even combined with the Jews and the Muslims, Christians are still a world minority.
Even if they weren't, a lot of ridiculous beliefs hold popular agreement. At one time, most people thought diseases were caused by evil spirits (because bacteria and viruses were then inconcievable).
Well, everyone has already destroyed this idiot's argument, so I'll nitpick. There are 66 books in the canon of the protestant bible, but there are not 66 authors. Christians claim Moses wrote the Pentateuch, and it is alleged that one author each (or one court scribal class each) wrote I and II Samuel, I and II Chronicles, and I and II Kings. Oh, and Paul, a man who never once met Christ (apart from his uncorroborated post-crucifixion magical ghost visitation) wrote 40% of the New Testament.
Also, add me to the list that dispute its profundity, its originality, and its moral acuity.
Beanheel
Lotsa folks dispute that the bibble is full of the most profound moral teaching.
Of course no culture other than Christianity has great music, architecture, literature, history, or sailing ships. What a dumbass.
So, how would you other commenters like to help me write a book about flying squirrels watching over us and make people believe that it's true for 1000 years? We could start a completely false religion and probably do a better job than the Bible at proofreading our work and not having GLARING INCONSISENCIES. In other news: The Pyramids, Several metal bands, Louis Pasteur (bacteria aren't mentioned in Bible), Founding fathers of America having free religion as one of the rights of the constitution therefore non-christian ... My point is you are completely wrong
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