Time for black Africans and Hispanics who have destroyed everyplace on Earth that they inhabit to face facts. Whites built our 1st-world country. Whites invented nearly all modern-day technologies... planes, trains, cars, modern medicine, space travel, sky scrapers, electricity, telephones, TVs, computers, sneakers... the list is endless.
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If a boatload of black Africans or Hispanics landed at Plymouth Rock in 1620, would the U.S. be a 1st-world country today?
Well, the Africans were enslaved. And without their hard work, I doubt the US would be rich.
And the Hispanics... ever heard of South America at all?
Meanwhile, Europeans stole the things that allowed them to conquer the world (gun powder is Chinese, the compass is Middle-Eastern, as is modern algebra, for a few examples...) and then used the products of their conquests to elevate their own countries, while keepng other parts of the world under their thumbs.
Meredith Gourdine invented the technology that clears runway fog. Before Elijiah McCoy train engines could not be lubricated while in operation. I would be here all day listing black pioneers in medical science. The movie Hidden Figures details the conspicuously unrecognized mathematicians who helped put Armstrong and Aldrin on the moon. Despite Trump's claims the concept of tall buildings is not exactly new and the Chinese had some rather impressive architecture before any of our ancestors built anything more enduring than a goat pen. Ancient batteries were found in Iraq and electroplated jewelry in Mesopotamia.
White people do just fine creating our own poverty. Particularly notable would be the gap between the haves and have nots in Southern slave states, with the have nots bitterly complaining that hiring a man to do manual labour as opposed to buying one who could be bred like an animal was not such a popular move for the wealthy AKA "the job creators" and that the slaves at least had food and a place to sleep. Hell, even the slave owners pointed out that last part portraying it as a kindness not to let them live in the same crushing poverty of unemployed whites.
Those white settlers you're lauding? The only ones who didn't starve in the early colonization got fed by the not-white Native population and some were suspected to have resorted to cannibalism.
Get real. Cultural posturing didn't lead to anything but the COLLAPSE of empires. You have to learn from history to go forward and you won't learn jack by altering history to suit your ego.
@2181325:
Some good points, but I get worried it might sound like racism against Europeans.
I'd say that, while other cultures saw their progress in developing themselves, European cultures saw progress in taking everyone else over.
@ Blair & Vman
Well, stolen may be a strong word. What I meant was "use the technologies to gain more power, while never mentioning the role of other civilisations in their development". It is not theft in the sense that Europeans did not make off in the middle of the night with the recipe for gunpowder, but they worked very hard to make it seem as though they conquered all obstacles by themselves and their successes owe nothing to anybody other than Europeans.
As for being European-bashing, Hel, if reminding Europeans that the rest of the world exists is European-bashing, they are due for a dose of it.
@Blair
I'd say that, while other cultures saw their progress in developing themselves, European cultures saw progress in taking everyone else over.
I'll be nitpicky for a bit: I'd say European cultures did both. Also, they were far from the only ones who tried to take over everything they could get their hands on.
Cases in point:in human history, through conquest and methods that were often rather brutal)
And those are far from the only examples.
@Indicible
Well, stolen may be a strong word. What I meant was "use the technologies to gain more power, while never mentioning the role of other civilisations in their development". It is not theft in the sense that Europeans did not make off in the middle of the night with the recipe for gunpowder, but they worked very hard to make it seem as though they conquered all obstacles by themselves and their successes owe nothing to anybody other than Europeans.
That's a better way of putting it, yeah. Though it's also a bit behind the times, I think. I learned in school that a number of key technologies were invented elsewhere, and got to Europe by trade or other means (I'm European; Croatian, to be specific). For instance, we were taught that paper and gunpowder originated in China, and our numerical system came from India via the Arabs. So if all schoolchildren are taught that, I think it might be a bit wrong to say we think we did everything by ourselves.
Of course, you may have a point when it comes to how much stress is put on such things. The history curriculum does put significantly more emphasis on national and European history than on other areas of the world (though I suppose those other areas similarly emphasize their own history over the rest of the world's). And it seems to me that Europe does indeed still tend to have a high view of itself as a sort of bastion of high civilization and development (though I do think that it's warranted at least a little; much of the EU is a pretty nice place to live by world standards, yes?).
@Indicible
As for being European-bashing, Hel, if reminding Europeans that the rest of the world exists is European-bashing, they are due for a dose of it.
I don't think what we need is bashing in the other direction (towards Europeans), but then again I'd say that what you're suggesting is not in fact bashing. It's just setting the record straight - reminding Europeans that they're not as high and mighty as they may think (morally or otherwise), that they owe a lot to the rest of the world, and that the kind of anti-immigrant sentiment that's becoming increasingly popular is by and large a load of shit. That's just intellectual honesty, and I see nothing wrong with your approach as long as it stays within the bounds of historical truthfulness (to the best of our current knowledge) and an honest look at the current situation.
Whites invented nearly all modern-day technologies
Conveniently ignoring all the inventions made by black people, but I would expect nothing less from people on Breitbart.
Besides, it's easy to say "white people invented everything" when up to about 60 years ago black people were prevented from attending college in some parts of the country.
@ Doubting Thomas
Even today while no longer legally prevented from attending college it's made much more difficult for African Americans to get in, the quality of education they receive is often undercut by being funneled into paper classes or targeted funding cuts to black-majority areas and resistance to bussing, and at the end of the day a frustrating number of people just shrug and say "affirmative action" when they see a black applicant with college credentials and act like the only reason they passed third grade math was because they were given an automatic pass without having to do so much as attend class and couldn't possibly fill out even a basic job application by themselves despite staring at one while making that assumption and toss it in the garbage without a second thought unless their company has an internal hiring quota to cheaply dodge discrimination accusations while still maintaining discriminatory policies and deliberate turnover.
Black Africans and Hispanics gave us rap, tacos, and poverty.
A) No white people were ever poor?
Confused?
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