During the next year, there were times when I would get irritated with people who say they don’t believe in Jesus, heaven, or hell. When you know the truth, you want so desperately to convince others that hell is real and that Jesus is their only way out. Sometimes I would simply run short of patience, because I know where they are going if they don’t listen. It is not just that I am anxious to talk to others because of my experience—it’s also because of what God says in His Word. That is what counts. I do not get upset at the people themselves but at how hard it is to persuade them of the truth.
“It is our bounden duty to warn sinners of their fearful peril. To remain silent is criminal.”[12]
—A. W. Pink
To give an analogy, try to imagine how you would feel if you were sitting beside a pool and saw a tanker truck pull up with some evil-looking men in it. The men got out of the truck and began to drain the pool water to about half-full. Then they filled it back up with another liquid from the large truck. However, it’s not water—it’s acid! You watch the men throw a wooden board into the pool, and the board immediately disintegrates. Obviously, these men are planning on killing whoever jumps into the seemingly harmless pool.
Then the men drive away. A few minutes later, some children come running up to the pool to swim. You immediately scream and warn them of the acid in the water, but they don’t believe you. You desperately yell, telling them to stay out of the pool. However, the water looks great to them—it’s inviting. How frustrated you would be! You couldn’t let them jump in, even if they insisted. You would feel compelled to do whatever it took to save them.
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OR you can throw something to the pool and demonstrate the acidity of the pool. same way as it was demonstrated to you.
meanwhile, you still can't proof any of your claims about an afterlife.
ANALOGY FAIL.
A very understandable sentiment, but the thing a Christian is to keep in mind that is that pagans (which is anyone who's not a true Bible-believing Christian) are not children. They chose to reject Salvation. In the analogy above, the heathens/satanists are more like adults that jump into acid-filled pool fully knowing the consequences.
We also have to consider the fact that the Elect constitute a small minority of people. So very few will be Saved, even though Jesus' sacrifice was sufficient to Save all.
In the name of the Lord,
Jerry
But, you could just throw something in the pool to show the kids that it's dangerous.
Can you show us Hell, or let us talk to Jesus?
Do you have any evidence that YOUR god is the right one, and not any of the other thousands of gods man have worshiped throughout history?
Can you show us Hell, or let us talk to Jesus?
If you talk to Jesus you're praying. If Jesus talks to you you're a lunatic.
You can prove the water is acid, right? Several methods spring to mind.
Now, about this Jesus,heaven and hell, got proof?
Great analogy. Now can you explain why your god would fill the pool with acid in the first place? Or why he sent all those kids invitations to a pool party?
And why the signs that say "Warning, Pool Full of Acid" are written in an ancient language, hidden behind bushes, and half of them say "Ignore Warning About Pool Acid" on the other side?
@Jerry
"pagans (which is anyone who's not a true Bible-believing Christian)"
How many times do we need to go over this before you get it right? Tell you what. Send me your address, and I'll send you, free of charge, a dictionary.
Except, in this wildly unrealistic scenario, you have actually witnessed something that is dangerous and you could demonstrate it through having the acid's pH taken. You can't demonstrate the validity of God's existence through any test, regardless of the circumstances.
You're irritated? We just think your kind are irritating. Let me guess: exactly NONE of those people walked up to you and initiated a conversation just so they could tell you they don't believe in Jesus, heaven, or hell. That information came about after YOU walked up to preach at someone, right?
We are adults, most of us. There is not an adult in western civilization who has not already heard the basic tenets of christianity. We have made up our own minds by this time, for the most part, and do not take kindly to strangers coming to tell us that we got it wrong. Face it, Bill, there is NO polite way to walk up to a stranger and tell them "Your whole world-view is wrong, and I am right." Proselytization is incredibly rude, even when practiced as politely as possible, so it's no wonder they don't want to hear you. Most of them are too polite to say "Go away", but trust me, that's what they're thinking.
So the pool had a fence right? I mean, that's the law. So why didn't you just paint the gateposts with sheep's blood? Your God would have saved those kids, right?
Didn't see that coming, did you?
To give a more realistic analogy, try to imagine how you would feel if you were sitting beside a pool and somebody told you it was being filled with acid by aliens. You visited every day, but you never saw any aliens. So they told you the aliens were invisible. So you brought a watchdog with you, but the dog never barked. They said the aliens were not only invisible, but had no smell, either. You built a high fence to keep the aliens out, but they told you the invisible aliens could walk through walls. You had the water tested and it was just water. So they told you it was a magic acid that doesn't show up in tests.
At what point do you conclude that there's no difference between undetectable aliens putting undetectable acid in the pool and no aliens at all? (apologies to Antony Flew)
Evidence Billy-boy, evidence. If the wooden board immediately disintegrates, then what would happen to the walls holding the pool?
People could see the walls being eaten away, they cannot see your Hell.
We often reject Jesus because fundies, lack of evidence, reading the Bible, etc. Your post and Jerry's posts work towards that end. His posts show he knows nothing of the words he espouses, nor of other belief systems nor his own. Thus everything he says is wrong. Bill other fundies are just as bad. They give us reasons not to be Christian
Wow, yet again another analogue with absolutely no comparison to your stupid fairy tale religion. Bravo, you fail again.
Here's something closer. Suppose you're sitting on a park bench and a talking banana riding a minotaur comes up and tells you it's gonna cut the throat of the next person that says hi to you. So you put up a sign saying "Don't say hi to me or a talking banana riding a minotaur is gonna cut your throat". And a little old lady soon comes by and goes "Hi there retard" and goes on her merry way chuckling to herself.
Now that's an actual analogue.
Except you didn't see anyone put anything in the pool, did you. It looks exactly like water and the suggestion that anyone would randomly fill a pool with acid is obviously absurd.
But, someone you don't know came along and told you it was full of acid (and not just acid but 'magic' acid), and despite not checking or seeing any evidence whatsoever, you believed them and are now telling others the same thing.
Maybe I could throw something in. Like a pool chair or a floatie or my own finger. If necessary, I'd rather sacrifice a pinky than let a bunch of kids melt or, Gobs forbid, just tell them about the water being acid and assume that that will be enough to deter them. Evidence of the acid would be more convincing than lip service.
"If Jesus talks to you you're a lunatic."
I'm not religious but respect is dead online.
sorry but sometimes I have seen verbal abuse and I know you are just attacking the crazy religious followers because they asked for it but it might hurt ordinary religious followers.
Finally I have said it. Bye bye.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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