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Inthebeginningministry #fundie cseblogs.com

I have finished college for the summer but two weeks before the end of term I got a really good witness with my college tutor. I mean really good! He threw all his arguments at me for an hour and a half. He found himself cornered so many times that eventually he didn’t know what to say. He was forced to admit that evolution is a religion, that the big bang is not part of science and that dinosaurs lived with man. He also admitted that there is no real way to know that the universe is billions of years old. He is by no means a convinced creationist, but they are some major concessions to make. One thing that I think that he was surprised to notice was the amount of times that he said ‘we think…’ ‘it might have…’ it’s possible that…’ or something like that. I took full advantage of pointing that out to him, and that opinions are not part of science.

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GaryMurray #fundie cseblogs.com

{... speaking about a visit to the Coca Cola Space Science Museum. I just lost 10 IQ points reading the discussion in this thread so you don't have to ...}

Of course we left the video early and slipped up the darkened corridor towards the exit which is typically lit after the video, dropping Chick/Hovind tracts “In the beginning” and “Big Daddy” everywhere.

It wasn’t a ‘full house’ but people came out had the other side as well. ;)

On that note, I also enjoy visiting my local Walmart from time-to-time and shop for groceries, on my way down the drink aisle to get my Mt Dew and Coca Cola on the left, I turn to the right while passing the beer and wine aisle. Its amazing how easily those tracts fit snugly inside the box handles of the 12/24 packs ;) Something everyone should do is take a hand full of tracts with ya to the store… Slip those in from time to time… Easy witnessing, you can make good use of those prepaid solicitation envelopes you get in the mail also, forget the return credit application, just pop in a gospel tract, make the soliciting company pay for sending gospel tracts to the receiving department employees. :)

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The Welders Wife #fundie cseblogs.com

When Cain’s descendant Lamech took 2 wives, he opened the door for acceptance of plural marriage to his own undoing, because now that ‘society’ accepted plural marriage, the Nephilim in all likely hood took a multitude of wives in order to build up their own armies, who in turn brought down the descendants of Cain’s descendant Lamech & everybody else, except the 8 on the Ark.

Why aren’t the sons of the Nephilim still being produced? It’s because the angels that were involved in this ultimate degradation of the family are now locked up in pits of darkness in the deepest pits of Hell, otherwise, it would still be going on! Jude 6 & 2 Peter 2:4-5 .

Noah wasn’t told to build the Ark until after Shem, Cham, & Yafet were married adults. By that time all his other descendants (if they existed) were dead! My guess is that the Nephilim killed all his other descendants in retaliation for his preaching against them.

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Paul Abramson #fundie cseblogs.com

(To somewhat paraphrase MATTHEW, from April 6th, 2008 at 7:01pm)

Dear Self (P.A.),

I think it useless to argue with GENO about evolution being fact. It is amazing that evolutionists accept that all dogs came a common ancestor, with incredible built-in diversity, yet do not call this evidence for divine creation.

They use ambiguous thinking, and carefully ignore any term of faith/belief/religion.

Evolution literalists either do not want to know the facts, do not want to understand the facts or they want to ignore the facts.

A wise man changes his mind, a fool never.

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The Welders Wife #fundie cseblogs.com

The birds define where the face of the 2-heavens starts because some birds can’t fly.
Apparently at that time there were some birds that could fly on the edge of what God defines as outer space. I’m not sure if there are still birds that do this during migratory flights or not. Does anybody know?

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Mattwerk #fundie cseblogs.com

Just a question I have about the KJV though. Apparently the Greek “Mia Sabbaton” was always translated as Sabbath, except for in 2 cases in the New Testament (I forget the verse numbers) where they were “deliberately” translated as “first day of the week” - apparently to get the ball rolling for Sunday worship. Anyone care to shed light on this issue? It would be scary if even the KJV had an error, worse if deliberate!

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The Welders Wife #fundie cseblogs.com

YAHWEH is God’s Name ‘I Am’. If you spell it in Ancient Hebrew the letters are a picture of Messiah our Creator with His arms stretched out & His hands hooked by nails to the execution stake!

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Ekkman #fundie cseblogs.com

The more that I study the word of God and science the more “uncomfortable” that I become with heliocentric and much more comfortable with a geocentric system of things. I am seeing more and more that the bible teaches geocentric not heliocentric system. Check this guy’s page out. I have been reading a lot on it and talking to the guy who does it. His name is Gerard Bouw, Ph.D. He makes it fairly plain that you can’t prove whether the galaxy, solar system is either by science. He is a scientist, one of those Ph. D. kinds and there are others, it looks like it is growing.
His page is http://www.geocentricity.com/

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Campus Preacher #fundie cseblogs.com

[Carl Sagan died after three bone marrow transplants failed to restore his body’s ability to make blood sufficient to sustain life on earth].

Campus Preacher noted: God even had mercy on poor old Carl Pagan. He gave him bone cancer and time to think about it. It obviously didn’t work. Therefore we must conclude, that geniuses like Carl Pagan and others can (Richard Dawkins probably will) and do and did go to Hell.

Is Evolution v. Creation an issue in Hell?

On that subject. It looks like to me God also had mercy on Steven Hawking. God allowed/gave him ALS when he was 21 to get his attention. It didn’t work. Looks like Hawking will go to to Hell too.

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Ekkman #fundie cseblogs.com

[. Why would the Holy Spirit mis-guide the translators to employ the use of mythical creatures like “unicorn” for wild ox, “satyr” for “wild goat”, “cockatrice” for common viper, when today we know what the real name of these creatures is?]


You do not know the real names; remember that the dictionaries were corrupted in the 1700s. These creatures mentioned in Scripture are real animals. For instance, the changing of dragon to hyena is based on the constellation of Draco. The entire western world sees a dragon there, but an obscure tribe of nomadic Bedouins sees a ring of camels surrounding a baby camel to protect it from hyenas. On that flimsy thread, modern dictionaries change dragon to hyena.

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Ekkman #fundie cseblogs.com

[If God gave us the KJV as an inspired translation, why would God not repeat the process again in modern language in each language?]


The question assumes that the A.V. was written in common or Elizabethan English. It was not. The English of the A.V. was specifically designed to receive the words of God in a language that could be understood by English readers. It is a pure language, untainted by secular meanings.

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P.A. #fundie cseblogs.com

I have a friend who witnessed a dinosaur fossil find (in a road widening cut) over a decade ago where an Indian arrowhead had directly damaged the bone. At that time he wondered why they were excavating so quickly. They claimed that it had to be a fraud. The local university, being evolutionists, hushed it up. This goes on all the time.

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Three Crosses #fundie cseblogs.com

1.”The estuarine crocodile is 23-feet long, as reported in the Guinness Book of World Records.”
That’s a pretty big dinosaur! Or at least what the preachers of evolution, claim is the nearest relative of the dinosaur(along with finches of course!).

2. The Komodo Dragon “The largest verified wild specimen was 3.13 meters (10 ft 3 in) long and weighed 166 kilograms (365 lb)”.
That could easily be considered a “terrible lizard”(you know a “dino-saur”). Not only is it big enough to kill you with its mouth or tail, it’s even venomous!

3. Longest Anacondas on record are argued between 32ft. 9.5in. and 42.5ft. That is large enough to eat you, a friend and your pets. Hmmm. A giant reptile!

The only reason these aren’t considered dinosaurs is because they contradict the current state/world religion.

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pabramson #fundie cseblogs.com

A few days ago in a thrift store I was looking at a “50th Anniversary Issue” of “Reader’s Digest” Magazine, from 1972. 50 years before the founder of the publication said that he had dedicated himself to the betterment of mankind. -Ah, that is the error. It is important. But it focuses on what would be the second of Christ’s commandments, without primarily exalting the first! So he fell (IMHO) into error. He may have had the best of intentions, but his priorities were not correctly balanced.

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The Welders Wife #fundie cseblogs.com

I also celebrate The Feast of Dedication, because it provides an opportunity to talk about Messiah, and I also celebrate Christmas for the same reason. They are both open doors from the Lord to present the Gospel! The Lord gave me a ‘personal’ understanding of how this works: If it wasn’t for the Christmas celebrations, I wouldn’t have heard about Jesus being born when I was a very small child, because my parents were heathen evolutionists.

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Ekkman #fundie cseblogs.com

I see most are wishing everyone for Christmas. I was wondering if people know the true meaning of this festival? The pagan ritual of Saturnalia, which the Catholics “made” Christian, which the Protestants failed to “protest” against, of which the story, the peripherals (trees, yuletide log, presents, mistletoe, Santa, etc), are all terribly pagan, idolatrous and thus evil? My wife and I refuse to celebrate this act of blasphemy - despite the “good intentions” one may claim to have - and are being percecuted as a result!

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CampusPreacher #fundie cseblogs.com

Daily on campus, students try to legitimize their addiction to alcohol by saying “well, Jesus turned the water to wine.” Their Jesus is a hippie longhair bartender that is all too willing to feed their illicit lust for mind numbing intoxicants. They conclude, since Jesus turned water to wine, now it’s o.k. for us to go to our fraternity keg party AND GET WASTED!

Yes, many of the early American immigrants drank a lot of hooch. If they were practicing drunkenness, they were not saved and did not go to heaven!

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cookster #fundie cseblogs.com

I’ve also heard of another movement in certain Church’s that are trying to say that Jews do not need Jesus to be saved…something I vehemently disagree with. I have notice John Hagee really pushing for Christians and Jews to work together, I’m not quite sure what he is saying in relation to this subject…I just hope the Gospel message is not being pushed out in the name of “co-existing”. Isn’t it disturbing how many times that Christians do the wrong thing in the name of Christ over the last 2000 years?

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defendtruth #fundie cseblogs.com

These six waterpots (normally used for washing feet) when full would contain about 150 gallons. [Jesus ordered them filled with water, and turned the water into wine.] This much additional intoxicating wine would certainly be too much for guests who were already drunk, and it is inconceivable that Jesus would provide such. This "good wine" had been miraculously created by the Creator and was brand new, with no time to ferment and become old, intoxicating wine.

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Kent Hovind #fundie cseblogs.com

Knee-Mail between Kent and God 4
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From: Kent Hovind
Sent: August 30, 2007
To: God & Young Boy
Subject: Re: God’s Awesome Power

GOD: Hey, Son, good morning! I love you!

kh: Good morning, Lord. I love you, too. I’m sure ready to get back out preaching for you, Lord. Can I go home now?

God: Do you think I need you out preaching for Me?

kh: No, Lord. I know You don’t need me, but I need to be used. Even the dogs get the crumbs, you know (Mark 7:28).

GOD: I know, Son. Good answer. I’ll send you back out soon. I want you to knee-mail a very excited seven-year-old for Me.

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P.A. #fundie cseblogs.com

[when it was pointed out that even Answers in Genesis disputes Setterfield's speed of light conclusions]

I see a pattern in your (plural, i.e. from the skeptics as a whole) posts:

Deny, object, pull down, disagree. Look for some less well researched creationist organization that disagrees with Dr. Hovind. Find some reason to besmirch or to poke fun. Interrupt, look for errors.

It is one thing to disagree honestly.

It is quite another to aim to detract and distract.

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P.A. #fundie cseblogs.com

Recall that there is good evidence that the speed of light itself is SLOWING. Yet another area of research where creationists are ahead!! (Barry Setterfield is one of the primary researchers in this area; he is a creationist.)

Fellow believers, in several areas of study we have been many years ahead of evolutionists on multiple occasions! They are mentally hobbled by their backwards theory.

The speed of light is not a constant! That is nonsense. It used to be believed; but the weight of good scientific research shows otherwise. The evolutionists and their hiding-from-God beliefs are holding us back - AGAIN!

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P.A. #fundie cseblogs.com

2 months ago we made a radical shift in this blog. Up until that time pretty much anyone could respectfully address the creation-evolution issue, Bible controversies, etc. But we finally decided that an orientation of “Since the Bible is true…” is more positive.

One can answer skeptics over and over and over, and still they will look for mental hiding places from God. Just as a thief just can’t seem to find a police officer no matter how hard he tries, the unrepentant sinner just can’t seem to find God no matter how hard he tries.

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Istvan #fundie cseblogs.com

To do research, creationists need funds. But all the funds go to those who believe in Evolutionism, the carefully protected, useless and and literally baseless religion. Yes, baseless, because you remember how it all “started”? Nothing exploded. And nothing “really means nothing”. No time, no space, no matter, no natural laws. Yeah, right. When SOMETHING explodes that SOMETHING is destroyed, and its environment also gets damaged. But that is nothing compared to what happens, when ABSOLUTE NOTHING explodes! When NOTHING (NO TIME, NO SPACE, NO MATTER, NO NATURAL LAWS) explodes, an incredibly complex universe forms itself. Of course. Easy as pie. The greatest mystery of all time, the origin of the universe is now solved, and all is well with the world. And where is the evidence? Anyone got a sample of ABSOLUTE NOTHING? Can I put it under a microscope? Because I sure am interested in what is in NOTHING!

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Istvan #fundie cseblogs.com

There is no proof for the nothing exploded into something for no reason, and here we are now “masters of the universe”. You guys used to think the universe has always existed. No beginning, no end. The Bible has always said that there was a beginning. “In the beginning God…”. Then redshift came along and you changed your mind. So now you think the universe had a beginning. Big Bang. But you are still not better off, because stellar evolution just does not work. Chemical evolution does not work either. Shall I continue? Why should I? If you have no universe and no chemical building blocks to work with, you are not going to get anywhere. You have nothing.

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pabramson #fundie cseblogs.com

The Earth is warming and changing. But don’t follow the evolutionists to their errant conclusions that “man is bad” and “there are too many humans - so let’s kill some” evil conclusions.

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pabramson #fundie cseblogs.com

Ride a city bus sometime. You will see folks under five feet tall and over eight feet tall. Which one is the average? Whose remains represent all the others? If they all died and some evolutionist came along eons later and selectively chose one skeleton to make a believed progression, which one would he choose? Remember that he can ignore 99% of them. And the left-wing media, in league with the deception, will go along with it to help deceive the masses.

Some people suffer from malnutrition today. How many of them will end up in a museum display of the future as “proof of evolution” when actually their less developed or deformed bones indicate nutritional deficiencies showing real, testable-repeatable biological processes instead?

In science vs. evolution - I choose science.

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pabramson #fundie cseblogs.com

[on unicorns]

Many creatures have gone extinct down through time. I am pretty sure that there are still zero fossilized buffaloes (just regular buffaloes, like those that roamed the American West by the millions in the early 19th Century). Yet they existed, and a few yet survive - even though we find (if I recall correctly) not a single one at all in the fossil record.

So we may not have a representative fossil for the unicorn specifically. Maybe they were hunted to extinction or their preferred food sources were destroyed by man or environmental changes. Maybe there were once millions of them, but not a single fossil at all remains. Realistic enough for you? ;-) Look at our real history of thousands of recorded years, human propensities, how rapidly the world’s climates have changed, and then ponder the once present unicorn. The puzzle pieces are there and ready to be assembled by the wise.

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Ekkman #fundie cseblogs.com

Jesus said to the lukewarm believers that he is going to spue them out of his mouth. Some tell me that doesn’t mean hell. I play their game and tell them, “I don’t care if you think it is hell or not, I don’t want to be spued on the other side of heaven by the Lord Jesus Christ. I want to hear him say, “Well done”.

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P.A. #fundie cseblogs.com

During the Great Flood, many creatures appear to have been buried and then reburied weeks or months later. This is one evidence supporting the “continent-crossing tidal waves” contentions regarding the Flood.

Perhaps not all land, all the time, was under water. Perhaps it was a series of tidal waves; worsening and lessening. Noah waited for months after landing in the mountains of Ararat before opening the door and exiting. He successively released birds. Isn’t that interesting? Perhaps (by theory) it was because he did not know if another severe tidal wave would lift and carry them again to land (again) later.

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pabramson #fundie cseblogs.com

– INTERCEPTED SKEPTICS COMMUNIQUE –

Fellow Skeptics, we remain intellectually superior to those lowly creationists. We are so superior that we have only studied evolution. Let us collectively pat ourselves on the back for having reached this evolved pinnacle of wisdom and understanding. Without investigating the claims of those lowly creationists we can proudly proclaim their error. There is one thing that remains though, where on Earth are they HIDING those creationist scientific evidences! That is the only minor thing that we have not yet been able to figure out! But all else is clearly known to us. Keep marching forward towards that spiritual cliff ahead. Feel proud. And when you are in front, take a deep breath, and gaze at the beautiful view. And keep marching even as you fall off and tumble through the air. So invigorating. Now let us recite the Skeptics Creed:

“I am a skeptic. All that is answers to my understanding or else it does not exist. I am too strong to admit weakness, particularly spiritually. I deny the role of The Scientific Mathematician who created and sustains the universe. Instead I contend that the trillions of known stars and the magnificience of abundant interlocking scientific laws of motion, preservation, heat, sophisticated chemical and biological interactions ALL exploded from nothingness into chance existence for no reason. There is thus no purpose to life.

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The Welders Wife #fundie cseblogs.com

[I thought all the answers were in the Bible.]


When [Henry Morris] started writing, there was very little information out there. He’s the one who got the ball rolling. Secondly, it’s human nature not to research a thing out, if you are in total agreement with the speaker. You are more likely to search things out when you disagree with somebody. God didn’t give Dr Henry Morris all the answers for this very reason! It’s one of those things that motivates the research in the Creation Science movement to keep going.

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Kent Hovind #fundie cseblogs.com

[Hovind's latest imaginary conversation with God]

kh: God, are you squeezing me to get something out of me, get something into me, or get me in a more usable shape?

GOD: All three and more, son. If I told you everything I was doing, your little brain would not be able to handle it all.

I’ve gotten some prayers and writings from you that you didn’t have time for in the free world. I’ve had you read things, watch things, hear things, and experience things that have changed you forever. I can squeeze things into you and out of you at the same time.

I’m getting some oil, fragrance, and juice out of you that is helping nourish, refresh, and bless some of your brothers and sisters in Christ. I’m also using you to convict and convert others who were not My children until they saw you get squeezed like this.

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2ndamenduseur #fundie cseblogs.com

Dear Welder’s Wife,

I couldn’t help but notice in your long exegesis about Noah’s sons that you referred to certain people getting their information as to what to write, as they wrote portions of scripture, from other people or circumstances, or things they saw. It seems that in your zeal to explain what you think the Bible means you have drifted into reliance on human reasoning instead of reliance on the Word of God. For example, Luke did not write the book of Acts based on things he saw or heard because of time spent with Paul. He wrote what God told Him to write. I admonish you to submit your thinking to the authority of God as given here:

“The Lord gave the word: great was the company of those that published it.” Psalms 68:11

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P.A. #fundie cseblogs.com

I think it was April 2005 (or March?) when “Science” magazine finally admitted (for their mostly evolutionist readers) that unfossilized dinosaur tissue has indeed been found. They stuck with the “millions of years” charade though. The filters over their eyes are holding them back.

There have been completely frozen ancient fruit trees uncovered in the Arctic with ripe fruit hanging from the branches. The ancient remains of the pre-Flood world, unfossilized & unpetrified remnants, exists in many places around the world.

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The Welders Wife #fundie cseblogs.com

Noah must have lived on a huge farm & probably grew a lot of the food supply that went on the Ark. He also must have owned forest land where he got his wood supply from. There was probably also a vast untamed stretch of land nearby that contained both exotic foods & animals. There must have been a river & wet lands close at hand too. The ark may have only been built by godly family members & not with the help of outsiders, for the same reason that many of us put our kids in Christian school or home-school them: We don’t want our precious kids corrupted by what is evil, & Noah & his wife probably didn’t want their loved ones corrupted either. Noah would have lived away from the Nephilim, which is what Josephus says he did.

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pabramson #fundie cseblogs.com

== Mummified Pre-Flood Dragon Found! ==

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2007/12/dino_mummy

“Rare Mummified Dinosaur Unearthed: Contains Skin, and Maybe Organs, Muscle”

A few others have been found in the past. But evolution-believing scientists have been slow to admit their existence. Their religious belief in the “millions of years …” stuff inhibits good research and the honest reporting of all finds.

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Paul Abramson #fundie cseblogs.com

We are seeing Western society being subverted from within by a “science, falsely so-called” of evolution and its attendant beliefs. We see a correlation to what happened in formerly civilized Germany, when they fell for evolution. It is terrifying to consider the idea of America falling to a evolution-based society. What, (Father, please no!) would the rest of the world do if Amerika fell to evolutionary beliefs, like Russia, China, Cambodia, Germany, and other states have done. Evolution-believing leaders, without the restraint of believing in God’s future judgment have shown mass murder on scales unimaginable prior to the modern age. Not here too, I pray.

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Kent Hovind #fundie cseblogs.com

[Another one of Hovind's imaginary conversations. This one is between himself and Hitler.]
KH: How is it decided which race is superior and what is it based on?
Hitler: It’s all based on the science of evolution! Since the strongest survive and the weakest die off, we have decided to speed up the process by eliminating the inferior races of Jews and blacks. War itself will demonstrate which is the most fit race.
KH: But the Bible says that all men are of one blood (Acts 17:26).
Hitler: Oh, that Bible is outdated. Our scientists have proven man arose from apes by evolution. Only the strongest survive, and we will show the world that we are the strongest!

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P.A. #fundie cseblogs.com

This life on Earth is but temporary. It is preparation for REAL life. Some folks are not passing the tests. They cheat and steal. They push down others. They look to fight for its own sake. They deceive.

Logically, the most important thing in life is your personal relationship with our Creator!

He has given us a book, The Holy Bible. In it are many instructions and historically accurate stories.

Your SOUL (your essence … your karma … your inner being) will go back to God after this life.

Don’t make it your life’s pursuit to hide from God behind evolution (without even bothering to watch even one Kent Hovind video)

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EndTimes #fundie cseblogs.com

God has promised to preserve His Holy Word unto all generations which would include ours. God is not the author of confusion, thus the entire textual criticism arguments are against that simple truth. Most dangerous is the current emphasis on studying the “original” languages from current lexicons which have unfortunately been corrupted. What a shame to spend so much time trying to find the “truth” of the Bible in an earthly corrupt lexicon, when God has already provided a pure text in English for all to read, study and memorize already.

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Ganf #fundie cseblogs.com

As for the formative processes of chert…well I guess the Genesis account is all we can go with. If only we could teach the controversy.

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pabramson #fundie cseblogs.com

[What to do if you're trapped in an evolution class]

There are some creationists who advise students to counter with “were you there?” but this is a bad idea. For one thing AiG (per above) does not practice this strategy with persons they are interested in attaining. They kept Jason Lisle’s beliefs a secret, publishing articles by him under a pseudonym until after he completed his degree.

Also, the fourth grade teacher knows the fifth and sixth grade teachers. If a young student (rebelliously?) challenges his or her teacher with “Were you there?” it could easily be answered: “No, and neither were you. So quiet down and listen to what the experts teach us.” Is it a good thing for Christian students to get bad science grades when they may actually be good at science? If the fourth, fifth, and sixth grade teachers decide to reward the “fittest” and to punish the “less fit” to survive, then a student who asks, “Were you there?” may never want to learn about real science in the future.

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P.A. #fundie cseblogs.com

For thousands of years EVERYONE still remembered the Great Flood. Even up until the 19th and 20th Century peoples around the world - still remembered that their ancestors from long ago came from the few survivors of the Flood.

Let’s skip forward to modern times.

What does the anti-Christ need to have in place before he can assume power?


I believe that one thing he needs in place is an ANTI-history. A believed history - that he comes as the answer for perceived history and needs.

Evolution provides the foundation for this anti-history. It replaces our true human history with a believed fake history that has nothing to do with what really happened - but it is believed. “Myth-ions and myth-ions of years ago…” the story of deception goes.

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mollypitcher #fundie cseblogs.com

I was in wikipedia today and scanned the history of the trying of Brother Hovind. I found it interesting that alledgedly a Christian sister by the name of Horton at a Christian university was the one to turn him in on supposed tax evasion for the his ministry operations. It made me think we should definitely be looking up (as well as over our shoulder) being that the 3rd and 4th to the final sign given in Matthew is that “Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake. And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.” Matthew 24:9-10 ALSO: Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against [their] parents, and shall cause them to be put to death. And ye shall be hated of all [men] for my name’s sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. Mark 13:12-13 (also next to the last sign before the end).

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The Welders Wife #fundie cseblogs.com

[in answer to the post about redwood trees growing in the Arctic circle]

Even before the Flood there probably wouldn’t have been enough sunlight to grow those trees at the poles. The answer to that is that the earth rolled, beginning at the end of the Flood.

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Editor #fundie cseblogs.com

I wish I had a nickel for every ungrounded believer who has fallen for the spiritual deception of evolution.

Calling it science does not change what it is. And it comes from The Pit, not from scientific research. Evolutionary beliefs are completely incongruent with Biblical and scientific beliefs.

The Bible is out of sync with modern science? “4.5 billion”? Where on Earth did you hear such nonsense. Not from Scripture, which teaches 6 days, 6000 years ago. And not from science which shows that the “red shift” is quantized. Honestly. Quit following the broad path.

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pabramson #fundie cseblogs.com

We can ascertain some things about the pre-Flood world.

Redwood trees grew in (what is now) the Arctic Circle. (Toss out their conjecture of “millions of years ago” per their dating methods that do not work, but keep the REAL evidence - redwood trees grew in the Arctic prior to the Flood.) When? - they are in error due to putting their religion ahead of good science. So they do not know. We do however, since we have a book that tells us of a radically different pre-Flood history.

Palms also grew in (what is now) Antarctica. The pre-Flood (not “pre-historic” as the evolutionists claim) world was very different. The Piri Reis Map shows that men once could go to Antarctica; from long ago; it was mapped in the former time. Like post-Flood peoples, there were explorers among them.

There were tree rings, indicating that even back then there were fruit bearing cycles, the periods when the trees would “reset” internally. In the post-Flood world (since about 2400 B.C.) tree rings usually follow the annual seasons, but it is possible for a tree to have two rings in one year.

The Earth was probably tilted on its axis, as we see it today. The tilt may have been about 1 degree different prior to about 700 B.C. But it was essentially the same. And the original year may have been 360 days, as evidenced by many ancient calendars, that is until about 700 B.C.

Genesis tells us that a mist rose from the ground each morning and that the waters were separated above and below. This would indicate a completely different hydrologic cycle, according to theory. Dragons reigned in some areas, mammals in others. Generally the pre-Flood climates (all at the same time - but in different places) would have been warmer

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Editor #fundie cseblogs.com

You need to be corrected on something which is quite foundational. Don’t come here expecting wishy-washy “oh gee, maybe the Bible is wrong” … “maybe we are smarter than God…” At this time you have aligned yourself with being a part of the problem...

There are some 40 authors for the 66 books in the Bible. A part of it was even written by God’s own finger! Doesn’t it seem like if just “some of it, gosh, might be, you know, nice to read and learn from, when we feel like it, except when it differs with human consensus…. (is that what you believe!?)…” - (To continue - ) Doesn’t it seem like if just “some of it…” is true, that this would include the part written by God’s own hand!?

Then read and learn from the middle of the Ten Commandments: Exodus 20:11a “For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is…”

In other words Creation is a non-negotiable. Think Biblically. Think scientifically. Become a creationist.

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P.A. #fundie cseblogs.com

[Explaining why the post recommending learning something about radiometric dating before dismissing it was truncated]

[EDITOR’S NOTE: We did have a raging creation vs. evolution debate for many months. Go back but one month and look at this blog’s history, if interested. A few of the skeptics resorted to incessant name calling and using “liar” a lot, when confronted with the real scientific evidence. Many remained willingly ignorant. Unrepentant folks are they.

If we had a blog on particle physics and a few detractors wanted to keep asking overly basic questions about why electrons spin around the nucleus (demanding photos for proof of this) and how come euclidean geometry makes so many straight lines, we may eventually realize that such uneducated questions and distractions hold the rest of us back.

Samphire needs to go back and study, as I stated a few times previously. We do not need unscientific evolutionary beliefs re-re-re-re-stated here as it reduces down to what it really is as a mental hiding place from God.

Either the universe just kinda exploded from nothing into something for no reason and then began to improve itself; each step of the way in defiance of the known laws of science. Or a Supreme Being made all that is, and for some divine purpose. If one chooses something in the middle, a weak-god evolution, that is fine for them, but then that excludes Biblical knowledge of our all-powerful God.

Just as one cannot truly combine voodoo with Christianity, one cannot combine the beliefs of evolution (heartless suffering for “improvement”) with what Christianity teaches.

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YoCuzwaasup #fundie cseblogs.com

God, (If there is such a person) love’s uncontrollable. It is a shame that we can’t be the same way. What I don’t get is those that make such and effort to crush a child’s belief in God. Would they do this if it were Santa Claus? Far be it Santa being compared to Jesus. Though they both have the same looks and clothing. White hair and beard, Red clothing, One flies with dears, Jesus on the cloud, Both watching who’s naughty and nice. Too bad the Evolutionist is on Santa naughty list.

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P.A. #fundie cseblogs.com

Science and the Bible agree perfectly. But scientists don’t always do good science. Consider the Galileo episode. For some 1200 years the consensus of scientists believed and taught others (like the religious leaders of their day) that the rest of the universe revolves around the Earth. Well, the consensus of scientists were wrong. What they believed and taught on that topic was in error. (The Bible does not say either way.) They fought against waht Copernicus and Galileo had come to realize from the scientific evidence. So it is important to make a distinction between what the scientific evidence indicates vs. what the consensus of scientists (using peer review/pressure) believe. They openly mocked Louis Pasteur. They denied Einstein’s relativity calculation for many years.

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P.A. #fundie cseblogs.com

[to a poster who tried to direct readers to accurate information about radiometric dating]


One should study BOTH sides of a debate prior to engaging oneself as a proponent of either side. You have not done this, per your recent posting attempts, Samphire. :-( Please either study, then come back. Or just save your typing for other blogs. We don’t want ignorant skeptics to hold us back any longer. I have made that clear. Start your own blog and I will be glad to post its address here. (Or study, learn that creation is true, then come back.)

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P.A. (editor) #fundie cseblogs.com

Peer pressure (peer review) combined with “publish or perish” holds back scientific exploration. If a professor wants to stay employed then he or she must submit to the consensus of evolutionary beliefs. Science then comes secondary. If a publication’s referees reject quality (but evolution contradicting) articles at the outset and then turn around and claim that “creationists don’t publish in the journals” that is a convenient contradiction. Some persons put their religious beliefs ahead of science. Thus creationists publish and teach others as we are able, but largely outside of the anti-God publications.

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sonofjapeth #fundie cseblogs.com

I am convinced that during the days of Jared there was an initial group of about two hundred angels who desended into the reigon around Mt Hermon and married human women. Then there was a trickle down of angels up until the flood. After that (the flood) there was a continual trickle down until approximately 1300-800 B.C. My assumption is that by then, those that couldn’t resist the allure of women were just about all here on the earth. I suspect that there are still possibly an occasional angel that falls in love and decides “it’s worth it”.

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pabramson #fundie cseblogs.com

[Aliens are really the "sons of God" or fallen angels spoken of in Genesis 6 according to this guy]


It is odd the apparent connection between so-called UFO “alien abductions” and sex. Turn to Scripture. What is going on? Why such a connection? In Old Testament times, they disguised themselves as false gods. If they wanted to trick modern (oh yeah, and really sophisticated, ahem!) humans, how could they disguise themselves?

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The Welders Wife #fundie cseblogs.com

OCC SHOE BOXES + CREATION SCIENCE

For those of you who read this blog & are also packing Shoe Boxes for Operation Christmas Child, have you ever thought about adding Creation Science Material to your shoe box? Even if they don’t speak English, there’s usually somebody who can translate the material for them. This year I am printing stuff up on my printer & enclosing it in some of the boxes. One year I found Creation Science coloring pages somewhere on the internet that we enclosed in the shoe boxes.

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pabramson #fundie cseblogs.com

[on why posts critical of creationism are not allowed]


We have had to quiet the non-scientifically-thinking (and often hypocritical) skeptics from this blog, sorry. P.A.

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pabramson #fundie cseblogs.com

So, the “sons of God” took of the “daughters of men” whichever ones they wanted. They got first choice. There go the models and actresses. We don’t know their criteria but I have a funny feeling that looks had something to do with it. They chose some over others. So, theoretically, if they had first pick and Noah’s wife was not taken by them, how pretty was she? (Yes, I realize that is is somewhat unusual to consider.) How about the wives of Noah’s three sons? If they were then the mothers of all human life afterwards, on average — were pre-Flood women prettier than post-Flood women?

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pabramson #fundie cseblogs.com

If you have heard much of Dr. Missler’s teaching you know that he periodically points out that the End Times will be like the times of Noah. He thinks … that the fallen angels may again (among those not bound in darkness now, Jude 6) take women whom they want.

We know that some very large “human” skeletons have been found (over 12 feet tall). There appear to have been some “Nephilim” after the Flood as well: Numbers 13:33 “And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.”

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The Welder's Wife #fundie cseblogs.com

If what Chuck Missler says is right, then every time the Muslims pray, they are opening themselves up to the demons, [which are the souls of the drowned Nephilim] to possess them.

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Kent Hovind #fundie cseblogs.com

[from another imaginary conversation]

GOD: Son, would it help you if I told you that my church is about to enter a time when many go to prison and I sent you ahead to show them how to bear up in prison?

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Kent Hovind #fundie cseblogs.com

[Some of Satan's supposed reasons for wanting Kent in jail:]

1. You are in God’s family and therefore, you are my enemy. I asked for and received permission to do this to you to destroy your faith in God.

2. Thousands have been converted to Christ because of the simple way you expose evolution. I hate people like you who steal people from my kingdom!

3. Evolution has been my religion since the Garden of Eden. I want people to believe the lie that they are improving and can one day be a god. Your message destroys that, so I hate you and will stop you any way I can.

6. You were encouraging common people to start similar ministries to expose evolution and many were doing it. I don’t mind it as much when the super-intellectuals speak on creation because they use all the big words and complex proofs that only a few understand. But your method of making it simple is way too effective

7. Your “Questions and Answer Session” on Seminar #7 makes me angry because you explain the King James issue clearly and cause people to doubt all my false Bibles. I have worked hard for 6,000 years to make people question or doubt or change God’s words and you are undoing my work. I hate you for this!

8. You have also dared to try to take dinosaurs away from me. I have used dinosaurs for nearly 200 years to teach billions of people that the earth is billions of years old and that God’s Word is not true. Your seminar on dinosaurs strikes at the heart of my kingdom. I intend to destroy both your ministry and your reputation for good. Dinosaurs are especially effective for me to deceive children. You are taking children away from me, so I took yours away from you!

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Kent Hovind #fundie cseblogs.com

[Just a few of the reasons Kent thinks God might have allowed him to go to prison:]

1. I broke some law that no one, not even the IRS has been able to show me yet.

9. To show me how corrupt our legal system is, so I’ll understand when You bring judgement on America

33. To let me see the suffering inflicted on millions by our government, as nearly every other government in history has done.

38. To discover those who say they love Jesus yet kick me when I’m down. Judas apparently has cousins alive today.

39. To show me the dangers of 501 (c) (3) and how most of Your children will compromise during the tribulation over these issues.

41. To let me see the well organized tool room in Pensacola for ideas for our ministry.

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Paul Abramson #fundie cseblogs.com

Only a few short years later, the teaching of evolution over Genesis began to take its toll. In 1962 and 1963, prayer and the Bible began to be removed from the classrooms. Premarital sex, divorce, drug use, violence, and general rebellion filled the 1960s as evolution’s conclusions were taken and applied en masse.

No longer could one neglect to lock their home, auto, and business. Evolution in practice encouraged “survival of the meanest” and “survival of the most deceitful” instead of “honesty is the best policy”.

Then “no fault insurance” became the norm as enough persons (believing evolution, whether consciously or subconsciously) decided to lie when recounting an auto accident. Wall Street deals used to be done on a handshake. No longer. Eventually it has become necessary to have drivers pay for gas first, then pump, as evolutionary tenets took hold in men’s hearts and minds.

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Jersey Girl #fundie cseblogs.com

Take the belief in evolution. Most people who believe in evolution do so because they were told that it is scientific fact. People have a bad habit of believing what others tell them instead of searching for the truth. Be careful what others tell you. I’ll give you an example. Most psych textbooks and psych professors will talk about the placebo effect and how powerful it is. Study after study has been done on this phenomena and in most cases the placebo works just as well or better than the treatment, simply because the people involved believe they are receiving the treatment.

Most Christians will tell you that once we find Jesus/Yeshua/Jehovah/Yahweh/God it is like we had just been told we had been given a placebo all our lives. We were instantly awakened to the truth and left with a feeling of awe that we had actually been duped into believing all the things we had been indoctrinated with since kindergarten. That is just one way that I believe Jesus restores sight to the blind.

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P.A. #fundie cseblogs.com

Evolutionists only know ONE side of the debate. Creationists know BOTH sides. …So logically, which side is the one in ignorance?

“You can lead an evolutionist to science, but you can’t make him think.”

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Editor #fundie cseblogs.com

We are sinners. Humans are collectively (at least partially) insane. Humans are out of sync with reality in the universe. We are each as a natural man, purposefully separated from our Creator. That is insane, by definition. Therefore, our best consensus even using highly vaunted “peer review” will therefore also be wrong, right? To trust “peer review” is thus to put faith in a consensus that can never be fully right, as long as we are firstly still in sin.

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kh #fundie cseblogs.com

[From another one of Kent Hovind's imaginary conversations with God]

God: Yes, son, so far you’ve asked me 181,046 times or about twelve times a day since you got saved. You do ask for wisdom a lot, son. What is the problem? I’ve given it to you each time.

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Jim Duffy #fundie cseblogs.com

I have been an airline pilot for a national air carrier, flying the Boeing 717 (a DC-9 derivitive) for the last 9 years. Before that I flew for a commuter airline in the Beachcraft BE1900D, and many corporate multi and single engine aircraft. Being a chistian I always marveled at the unmistakable impressions the remnants of the flood left on the face of our geography. I also used to chuckle as the tour guides in caverns would explain that millions of years of mineral build-up were necessary for the formation of stalagmites in the vacinity, while I observed there were stalagmites 6? and greater growing on their pathway lights that were only 25 years old.

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The Welders Wife #fundie cseblogs.com

This past spring I attended the R.A.T.E. conference in Bozeman, Montana. The research that they have done absolutely & totally debunks the theory of evolution!!! The problem is that most of the women at the R.A.T.E. conference didn’t understand 75% to 95% of what was said. I’d walk into the women’s bathrooms during the breaks & listen to the conversations. It was always, “Can you understand what he was saying?”, & the other one would reply, “No. Can you?”. And the first one would reply, “No! It’s way over my head!” [As for me personally, I have been studying Creation Science intently for about nine years & I could barely understand it! And at this point I definitely can’t regurgitate it!!]

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EndTimes #fundie cseblogs.com

Although, I would not waste my time reading at all from the NIV, NASB, NKJV or any other Alexandrian based English Version, they do contain the gospel which is what ALL men everywhere are saved by and nothing else, OT or NT. However, if you wish to understand prophecy and other deep mysteries of the Bible, you need a text that has not been corrupted. IN English, that is the KJV. If you wish to grow in the doctrines of the Bible, you need a pure word that will lead in you in the paths of righteousness which means again, you need a pure text.

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Soundman #fundie cseblogs.com

It is important to maintain and press forward with the attack on the stupidity of evolution. It is used to bind so many to worldly wisdom (which isn’t wise) and overthrow the faith of so many.

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campusministry #fundie cseblogs.com

THERE IS NO GAY DNA! HOMOSEXUALS ARE NOT RIGHT WITH GOD, AND ARE BOUND FOR HELL. In many cases, God has already turned them over to a reprobate mind. That means they CAN NEVER BE SAVED!

The Homo Song:

It’s not ok to be gay,
It’s not ok to be a homo
God didn’t make you that way,
His Word says it’s a big no-no.

It’s not ok to be gay,
It’s not ok to be perverted,
IT’S NOT IN YOUR DNA,
You need to be converted,

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Istvan #fundie cseblogs.com

Evolutionists teach that there is no perception after death. So it only smarts while you die, but as soon as you are dead, it is quite alright. No perception. As Hamlet said: ‘The rest is silence.’ According to what you believe those people who are already dead feel no pain whatsoever. You should not worry about them. They are fine. They are so fine they do not even exist. Can you imagine yourself not existing? I cannot. Yet this is what your evolution theory teaches. It also teaches that those who are already dead were no more than a bunch of molecules arranged to make a living being we happen to call man. Why feel sorry for a bunch of molecules.

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Editor #fundie cseblogs.com

If DNA is simple, then why does it take some of our most advanced equipment in order to even study it in the first place? Evolution is a “mental hiding place” to deny God’s proper place in our lives. He is our Maker and we each have the choice of making Him our Lord.

One can deceive himself; he or she may also deceive others as well. When Galileo bravely stood against the consensus of scientists and the theologians of the day who had chimed in with “just trust the scientists” he stood with the truth and against peer reviewed error. The scientific consensus who respectively stood against Louis Pasteur and against Albert Einstein were also in error. (Peer review can equal peer pressure, leading to lemmings jumping over a cliff, etc.)

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Editor #fundie cseblogs.com

[Re: the Hovind/Youtube dustup]

EDITOR’S NOTE: Folks, there were a few groups of desperate skeptics who had chopped up parts of Dr. Hovind’s seminars in hopes of trying to convince others to hide from our Creator too. They then posted those edited portions on-line. They’ve been there on-line, deceiving folks for some time. CSE recently asserted its rights and asked major video hosting sites that the chopped up seminar parts be taken down.

A win for the good guys! Now we with CSE are getting even more hate Email than usual this week. The bad guys are mad and they are getting loud about how their mental hiding place is absolutely necessary. They don’t want to face the truth. They demand to hide behind evolutionary pseudo-science and to dishonestly deceive others too. It is their “right” they contend. Belief in unscientific evolution is such a great way to deny our place in the universe. How can CSE want to expose them with real science, they contend.

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Crystal #fundie cseblogs.com

Thank you for this blessed ministry. I am a first grade public elementary school teacher, and I am so thankful I know how to give an answer now when my kiddos ask. I’ve also been able to filter through all of my books to ensure that there is no reference anywhere in my classroom to anything being millions of years old or evolving.

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Editor #fundie cseblogs.com

Biology teaches “heredity & variation” - i.e. built-in limits. Science teaches that variation is limited; that is what we see in real biology. Evolution though teaches unlimited variation over time, and that heredity can be violated.

At each step of the way evolution violates science.

At each step of the way creation is in sync with science.

A creationist can predict that we live in an orderly universe - and we do! It was designed.

An evolutionist has faith to believe that nothing exploded into something for no reason, and oh yeah, gravity invented itself for no reason, and don’t forget the laws governing light, momentum, thermodynamics, etc. You see, at each step evolution defies science. Devout evolutionists deny the Creator’s power because she or he badly wants to ignore His laws regarding our lives and our morals.

An evolutionist (to be consistent with his faith) should predict that we live in a disordered unlawful universe

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Editor #fundie cseblogs.com

The end is CREATED by the means. Evolution, with its “might makes right” fosters meanness. When it takes over in men’s minds no more of the: “There but for the grace of God go I.” Instead it’s: “Survival of the ‘fittest’ and slavery and death for the weak.” Pain, suffering, and death are exemplified as purifying and building up, when they actually pull down.

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Ekkman #fundie cseblogs.com

It is sad that many in the ministry are killing the little toddlers in the Lord Jesus Christ with the new bibles. They (the new bibles) are one of the major reasons that is causing the great falling away in these last days.

I tell people who give or sell new bibles to “baby” believers are like those natural parents who are giving their babies pop, tea or whatever to drink instead of the pure milk (of the word).

The new bibles are helping in big ways to cause the great falling away. When Satan poisons your food (the word of God) then he will mess you up spiritually speaking. In the natural, when we feed on junk food, we are slowly killing ourselves. In the spiritual, when we are feeding on junk food (new bibles) we are slowly killing ourselves...

I was teaching out of 6 or 7 different bibles years ago and since I only study and memorize the KJV, I was seeing all kinds of contradictions. I was getting close to quitting the faith, I was confused to say the least.

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Editor #fundie cseblogs.com

Today on Earth lions and humans live at the same time. But we have learned that lions are dangerous. So we live in different places - but (still) AT THE SAME TIME. Perhaps some of the dragons/dinosaurs were dangerous. It would have made sense then for pre-Flood man to have lived in different places than dragons - but still at the same time.

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Editor #fundie cseblogs.com

Today, simultaneously, we have alpine, desert, tundra, savanna, forest, and other ecosystems - all at the same time, and each with respective fauna (animals) and flora (plants).

It was the same before the Flood. You would have had many different ecosystems thriving ALL AT THE SAME TIME, during the 1600 years. I will use the evolution-believed names, but without their mythical “sequence”. In the pre-Flood era, simultaneously, there were: jurassic, cretaceous, devonian, ordovician, silurian, and cambrian ecosystems - all thriving AT THE SAME TIME. That is what common sense shows, as it fits similar to what we see in the world today. -Creation, once again, consistent with common sense and with known science.

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campusministry #fundie cseblogs.com

I have a message that I preach on university campuses called “Things I admire about the Muslim Religion.” I think it might be appropriate on this occasion.

1. I admire the fact that Muslims get angry when their god’s name is blasphemed.
2. I admire the fact that Muslims pray 5 times a day, when many Christians don’t pray at all.
3. I admire the fact that Muslims require women to dress modestly in public.
4. I admire the fact that Muslims have a religious and political system that emphasizes the importance of God in daily life.
5. I admire the fact that Muslims still judge sin publicly as in the recent flogging of the man convicted of adultery.
6. I admire the fact that Muslims emphasize masculine rule of the home and nation.
7. I admire the fact that Muslim women are expected to have children and be keepers at home.
8. I admire the fact that Muslims memorize and know their Koran, while most Christians are ignorant of the Bible.
9. I admire the fact that Muslims judge and punish sodomites and other perverts.
10. I admire the fact that Muslims are willing to die for their beliefs.

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Timothy Fellows #fundie cseblogs.com

In evolution, there is no law, and there are no laws. The only law is that there is no law. The only law is to expect change. For there to be Law, there must be a Lawgiver, and a Lawgiver can only enforce the law under his own jurisdiction, therefore requiring the necessity of Creation. An evolutionist who believes in law is like a sober drunk, or an honest crook.

How many billions of years ago did 2+2 gradually = 4?

How many billions of years ago did a circle gradually get 360 degrees?

How many billions of years ago did water become wet, or did fire become hot?

How many billions of years ago did a straight line become the shortest distance between two points?

When did water begin to freeze at 32 degrees (F) and boil at 212 degrees (F)?

When did the gradual become the constant?

When will evolutionists stop pretending to be scientists?

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Istvan #fundie cseblogs.com

If you believe that there is no God, life and death becomes meaningless. Without an eternal soul, you are no more than a bunch of molecules, a living mass of material. So according to this godless dogma, squashing a human being is exactly like squashing an ant or a tomato.

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Ekkman #fundie cseblogs.com

Once what I see is applied to a designer then I know that I can study what I see since now it has a purpose and an intelligent mind behind it showing me that it is worth study. But if things just happened by chance, no design then it would be senseless studying it since it might all change tomorrow. An evolutionist can never know if his data will change tomorrow since things just randomly came together in the beginning. I can see that to an evolutionist there would be really nothing to study since there are no absolutes.

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BadBob #fundie cseblogs.com

I am a high school science teacher. So far I have been able to teach creation science a couple years without being stopped by administration. I spend as much time if not more teaching creation science as I do going thru the textbook they make me use. Of course, I skip all the chapters with evolution. I use Dr. Hovind’s seminar notebook and his book Are You Being Brainwashed. In a couple weeks I will be going at it again. I pray I can continue to do the same as I have been.

Dr. Hovind’s plight exposes how corrupt our judicial system has become. With the advent of Verichip we are now just that much closer to the mark of the beast becoming a reality. And there is the prospect of Hillary Clinton becoming our next president. The future of America is very precarious at best. In the public schools and government all across our nation the wicked seem to be securely in charge while the righteous our at their mercy.

Our family prays for the Hovinds daily. It grieves us greatly that our government is treating them as such.
God’s judgment is heating up on America. In my life time I have witnessed drugs abuse, venereal and other fatal diseases, abortion, crime, rebellious youth, illegal aliens, oppressive taxation, perversion, etc. etc. etc.

We either are headed to revival or the end. Most those that claim to be Christians are so confused about what Christianity really is I fear the latter. God is not going to bless a nation and people who have turned their backs on Him and persecute His messengers.

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editor #fundie cseblogs.com

Does evolution teach/encourage one to commit adultery or not? …Shouldn’t one “spread their seed” as in “survival of the fittest” and all that? If “God does not see” (according to one’s beliefs) then this directly affects human behavior. // And again, this planet is owned; your soul is owned. FEAR God and keep His commandments. The oversimplified “God is luf, luf, luf” (love…) stuff is incomplete, poor theology, I would contend.

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Timothy Fellows #fundie cseblogs.com

Most churches today are basically government opperations, allowed to opperate according to the “rules” of the government. Most preachers today not only have licenses to preach but they conduct marriages under the authority of the state, instead of traditional covenant marriages. We are increasingly living in not just a socialist, but a communist society where the government owns everything, and one must get permission to live, work, travel and freely conduct public affairs of business. Dr. Hovind is being persecuted in the Unites States of America and is a litmus test for the Christians out there — Watch out, They’re coming for you next; unless, of course you conform to a state church system, fully approved and answereable to the government. Whatever happened to the separation of Church and State?

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editor #fundie cseblogs.com

The TEACHERS of evolution (unwittingly, at least usually) encourage dishonesty, murder, rape, stealing, etc. Beliefs lead to actions. If one believes that “God does not see” their actions - this encourages some behaviors over others. Honesty is definitely NOT encouraged when one ascribes to evolutionary beliefs. Evolution also teaches the opposite of “Honor your Father and your Mother” (Fifth Commandment) when it implies/teaches that the future is in the offspring, so that one should concentrate on the children. Evolution teaches values.

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Millerfamily6 #fundie cseblogs.com

I must say that I, as a sister in Christ, detect rebellion in your heart towards the Word of God. Yes, we are all equal in the Lord’s eyes; however, God our Father has established certain roles for men and women and He does tell us in his Word what those roles are. A woman can share the gospel with others, certainly, but just not in a church leadership role, nor is a woman allowed to teach and lead other men “in the church.” This is clearly laid out as doctrine in the NT for the church…the Lord does not allow women pastors and 1 Tim 2:14 tells us why….because Adam was was formed first and Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. The Lord does tell us that women are to be keepers at home, and the husband is to work and provide for his family, which is not to say that a woman cannot help out in some way (Prov. 31), but her main role is at home with the children serving her husband and being a helpmeet to him (this idea is so foreign in our culture because of the vain philosophy of women’s lib). The Lord tells us in His word for wives to be submissive and obey their husbands in all things (I’m still not perfect in this area and praying through this).