2ndWaveNostalgia #sexist np.reddit.com

I disagree, and I've read this from other commenters. It strikes me as an inaccurate comparison. It may not feel polite or nice when women on this sub criticize a TIMs appearance when dressed as a woman but it is NOT the same as the ad feminam attacks on women by MRAs or transactivists or transallies. When women here remark on the appearance of men masquerading as women in my opinion it is a reaction to two things. First the lie that people can become the opposite sex, a lie that does irreversible damage to people who are deluded by it, and second that no matter how ludicrously men dress they are entitled not only to unquestioning acceptance as women but also their arguments accorded unquestioned seriousness and weight.

In the photo of Liam "Lily" Maynard, he - an adult teenage male - is dressed like a 12 year old girl. No one I read made any comments attacking him personally. No one said he was an ugly man who became a TIM because he couldn't get laid. The commenters said he looked like a dude, and he does, and that comment is directly responsive to his claim that he is a woman. The commenters criticizing his outfit are reacting to the clear visual assertion that as a TIM he can dress in ways that emphasize his maleness and his TIM-ness and still be accorded seriousness, in a way that no woman would be. If I, as a late middle-aged woman with severe age dysphoria, claimed to be a teenager and dressed as a teenager and expected unquestioning acceptance and respect for my argument, I am confident that those people calling bullshit would comment on my appearance and I think would be right to do so.

We now have a TIM (or alleged TIM- maybe just a woman-hater taking advantage of the current pro-trans ideology social climate) who is a long-haired man wearing an "I punch Terfs" t-shirt. Would it be unladylike or impolite of us to comment on his appearance? I think a man who wants to be actually listened to when he makes the bullshit declaration that he is a woman deserves to be received with incredulity and scorn. If he chooses also to wear "woman-face" he is doubling down, and that is an additional blatant insult to women that says "I can dress like a clown and make ludicrous statements and I will be treated with respect while you can make well-founded objective statements and you will be personally attacked. I have the power, I know it, and I will rub it in your face AND in the faces of the lily-livered politicians and trans-allies."

Miranda Yardley does not "pass" yet I have never seen his appearance criticized here. He is accorded respect, affection, and gratitude for living how he wants honestly, not pretending to be a woman and trampling on the dignity and rights of women. Lastly, I've seen TIMs who dress in a way to fit in with women of their age group and I haven't seen them criticized for their appearance here, whether or not I felt they "passed". And, as people age women and men do begin to resemble each other - I haven't seen anyone here snipe at older TIMs who look like Tambor's Transparent character.

Women here have criticized the porn-actress makeup look some TIMs affect. So what? In my daily travels the only women I see wearing that kind of makeup are teenage girls and women going to clubs, so I think criticizing where these men are getting their ideals of womanhood is legit. So no, I don't think people here are creating/engaging in the same culture as MRAs and transactivists who bash women are engaged in.

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