Pinky. :hi:
Why do I care about the creation vs. evolution argument?
Abiogenesis is all about theories.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis
So many people guess and guess but none of them ever thought that from nothing you get nothing so
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Pinky: Gee brain what do you want to do tonight?
Brain: Same thing we do every night, try to get though to close minded Fundies.
Pinky: I don't know brain wouldn't it be easier to take over the world? Narf.
Their Pinky and the Brain brain brain brain brain Braaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiin.
You know what? I'm okay with people who believe in theistic evolution. Yea, they add unverifiable spiritual fluff to it, but they usually don't deny the science.
The OP, however, clearly doesn't understand the concept of empirical evidence, nor the meaning of the term "scientific theory."
"consciousness has got to be a factor in evolution"
Wrong! So wrong! The wrongness of this statement is so massive that it's collapsing in on itself and forming a singularity. WRONG!
This tells me you don't have the faintest clue how evolution works!
"Abiogenesis is all about theories. Tons of it as you can see in here." Abiogenesis probably began with thin-film reactions growing upon a surface. The necessary chemicals were all available. The powers guiding that "design" are, as always, our old friends chemistry and physics.
Whereas "Genesis" is nothing by story-telling, by people who had no notion at all about biochemistry.
The "lightbulb" theory is you deciding that it's a lot easier to say goddidit than to study biochemistry.
Abiogenesis is not a theory, silly-nilly. Scientific theory is way past the guessing stage, and far into evidence and proof stage.
It's cretinism that says something came from nothing. Evolution is all about life that is already here.
What originated that someone? Can HE come from nothing? Well, then he must be nothing, also.
@Senomaros: Actually, he does have a point: human intervention has largely obsoleted natural selection in the parts of nature that we can access.
It still doesn't mean what he probably thinks it does, but he does have a point.
@Grey Rock
"Actually, he does have a point: human intervention has largely obsoleted natural selection in the parts of nature that we can access."
Not really. First, he's saying that the entire process of evolution, from the beginning of the first cell on this planet all the way up to the present and including all species of life therein, has some conscious force or will driving it, and nothing could be farther from the truth.
Second, even in the case of domesticated species, selection by humans doesn't really replace natural selection in its entirety; it's more accurate to say that it merely supplements it. Yes, we're selecting only the plants/animals that have traits that are useful to us to breed, but natural selection still plays a role. If, for instance, a livestock animal is born with a weaker immune system and succumbs to infection and dies before it reaches sexual maturity, that's natural selection in action. Or in the case of crops, it might be a dry year and one part of a farmer's crop isn't as drought-tolerant as the rest and they die before they can produce seeds. That's also natural selection doing its stuff. It's more than just who gets killed by predators and eaten; that's one part of natural selection, and we've certainly taken care of that in the species we've domesticated, but there are still plenty of other domains of fitness that natural selection works on that we don't.
So no, he's still an idiot with no points and no idea about what he's talking about.
"but none of them ever thought that from nothing you get nothing"
Uh, Rik? Literally every apologist who tries to reconcile biblical creationism with evolution has thought of that. What they've yet to come up with is a remotely valid explanation for why simple life MUST have a creator yet that creator, itself -- the ULTIMATE COMPLEX LIFEFORM -- can come from nothing just fine.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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