The Catholic Church never declared Freemasonry to be Satanic, they just declared it to be incompatible with the Catholic Faith because it contains doctrines and rituals that contradict with the Catholic Faith. They are a different religion. Luckily the American Freemasons were far better than the European Freemasons who were direct enemies with the Catholic Church since they helped overthrow Catholic monarchies and caused the decrease in the Church's power and influence in Europe. The European Freemasons are true Satanists while the American Freemasons had Christians in their organization and they did not harm the Catholic Church in America.
There is also evidence that Freemasons infiltrated the Catholic Church and were responsible for the horrible Vatican 2 reforms.
https://catholictruthblog.com/2014/06/23/freemasons-celebrate-vatican-ii/
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the horrible Vatican 2 reforms.
Would you please repeat that in Latin? ... ... What? You don't understand Latin?
Hmm, so which part of the Vatican II reforms were horrible? At least now you don't have to listen carefully for "... et in saecula saeculorum" to answer with "amen" without having a fucking idea of what the priest was saying the whole time. Yeah, pretty horrible. Oh right, most of what the priest did was silent anyway. So just say your ignorant "amen" to whatever was going on and go home happy.
I guess you don't really want to know what "Domine Jesu Christe, Fili Dei vivi, qui ex voluntate Patris, cooperante Spiritu Sancto, per mortem tuam mundum vivificasti: libera me per hoc sacrosanctum Corpus et Sanguinem tuum ab omnibus iniquitatibus meis, et universis malis: et fac me tuis semper inhaerere mandatis, et a te numquam separari permittas. Qui cum eodem Deo Parte et Spiritu Sancto vivis et regnas Deus in saecula saeculorum. Amen." means anyway. Just say "amen" and fuck off.
@checkmate
Would you please repeat that in Latin? ... ... What? You don't understand Latin?
Hmm, so which part of the Vatican II reforms were horrible? At least now you don't have to listen carefully for "... et in saecula saeculorum" to answer with "amen" without having a fucking idea of what the priest was saying the whole time. Yeah, pretty horrible. Oh right, most of what the priest did was silent anyway. So just say your ignorant "amen" to whatever was going on and go home happy.
Yes, I honestly don't understand why there are people today who insist upon a Latin-only Catholic mass. What's the point in going to a church service if you have absolutely no idea what's being said? Even in English the Catholic mass is basically just a robotic ritual, in Latin it would be even more robotic since you're just replying to what the priest is saying without even understanding it.
On the other hand, it would tend to drive away a lot more people from the church, so I guess that is a positive thing for it.
Decrease the Church's power and influence in Europe? You do know that the Vatican is a state of its own in Europe, right, and that the Holy See is one of the richest organizations in the world? Sure, religion as a whole has had its influence and power decreased in Europe in the last 50 years, but that includes the Freemasons.
A refreshing change to American fundies usually stating that Catholics are true Satanists.
@ Doubting Thomas and checkmate
Being a language nerd, I studied Latin for a short while. As I know the words in the Swedish and English versions of that text, I recognize many of the Latin words, and find it beautiful. Not so beautiful that I would get on a bus, go twenty kilometers to the convent church in the next town to participate in a sermon, but still...
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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