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Liberalism by definition is the abandonment of morality. History shows time and time again that when a society abandons morality that society will fall. We are in the midst of that fall thanks to liberalism. It's not about this religion or that religion, it's about having moral standards, something liberalism rejects outright.

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old comment by Whitleylad

From the OED

liberalism, n.

Pronunciation: Brit. liberalism#_gb_1.mp3 /'l?b(?)r?l?z(?)m/ , /'l?b(?)rl??z(?)m/ , U.S. /'l?b(?)r??l?z(?)m/
Frequency (in current use):
Etymology: Formed within English, by derivation. Etymons: liberal adj., -ism suffix.
< liberal adj. + -ism suffix, perhaps after liberalist n. Compare French libéralisme (1816).

1. Support for or advocacy of individual rights, civil liberties, and reform tending towards individual freedom, democracy, or social equality; a political and social philosophy based on these principles; spec. (freq. with capital initial) the doctrine or practice of the Liberal Party in Britain or elsewhere. See liberal adj. 5.market, neo-liberalism: see the first element.
18161992

2. Freedom from bias, prejudice, or bigotry; open-mindedess, tolerance; (Polit.) liberal left-wing political views and policies. 18202008

3. Chiefly U.S. The holding of liberal views in theology. 18232001

Nope no mention of the abandonment of morality

old comment by Canadiest

Not only did Rome fall well after it became Christian the infighting increased under it AND more to the post point, not one moral failing changed. Rome did not become a kinder gentler Empire under Christianity, it became more aggressive and cruel.

Hitlers Germany was full on Righteous Christians and Scripture was much used to rev them up for conquest. The hatred of the Jews was a well recorded Catholic attitude before Hitler did his first speech, Liberal ideas were much supressed.

As you look at the Western world all the freedom we've come to realize are liberal driven. "It's not about this religion or that religion, it's about having moral standards"

That's a complete dodge and misdirect. Every WND article is pushing for a Christian government.

old comment by Swede

Wikipedia definition:
"Liberalism is a political philosophy or worldview founded on ideas of liberty and equality. The former principle is stressed in classical liberalism while the latter is more evident in social liberalism. Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but generally they support ideas and programs such as freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, free markets, civil rights, democratic societies, secular governments, and international cooperation."

Sure, anyone can write on Wikipedia, but if the main thing was to abandon morality, I bet it would be in there somewhere.

Sweden grew strong and free, and prosperous, with Socialism. When the politics started to move right, towards Liberalism*, things started to deteriorate, yes.

*(Not as simple as that, of course, I'm just having fun with Liberalism being right-wing over here, and that there isn't a dichotomy of anything in politics, as there are a number of different alternatives.)

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