Quote# 24462

While browsing a different section of the forums, I came across this quote:
"We Christians serve a risen God and we're saved so we have something worth living for. We should have joy in our hearts and not want to cut ourselves and be selfish."
Aparently this is from the Teens-4-Christ board.

What do other people think of this?
I think self-harm to be a very selfish act indeed, and I believe it to be a form of suicide.
I often wonder how these people who cut can deal with themselves.

I've also looked around, and seem to have discovered many of these "cutters" to be atheists. Does that not say it all?


JuneMcCormick, Christian Forums 34 Comments [4/30/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 17128

(Keith Ellison, D-MN, takes oath of office on Quran)

A sad day for America...the Bible has truly been pushed aside for the benefit of self-serving politicians...

Defensor Fidei, christianforums.com 35 Comments [11/17/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 96096

[On the Kentucky Board Of Education approving an increase in evolution and climate change taught in it´s schools; completely removing creationism.]

The people that I talk to around here don't believe in that junk that we csme from a bunch of monkeys. That Darwin guy said it was all just a theory and could never be proven. And just where is that missing link? Never been found and never will be.
Our summers around here have been cooler than many of the past, which were usually scorchers. Nobody around here is buying the global warming stuff. But we do believe in saving energy and our air around here is clean.
That school board needs to work on improving student behavior: too many students are cursing and even assaulting teachers. The schools have gone down the drain ever since the court took prayer out. No one can mention God in school nowadays without someone claiming they were offended and filing some kind of ridiculous lawsuit. That's what that school board needs to work on - put God back in school and you will see a world of difference. When I went to school they did not have to have police officers and metal detectors. The biggest problem was chewing gum.

guthrum, Huffington Post 35 Comments [8/22/2013 3:26:10 AM]
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Quote# 44096

[Question: Is it possible prove god exists by comparing him to something that really does exist, without sounding silly]

Answer:

There has to be a God because when you think about it a man can't make a woman. And a woman can't make a man alone. So God have to be here.

[Don't know what's which is worse, the question or the answer]

Mommy, Yahoo Answers 28 Comments [8/3/2008 5:11:49 AM]
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Quote# 74417

I think immodest clothing were originally designed by an angel of satan (clothing industry) to attract(men and women) for all of the wrong reasons. Women in particular because we are vulnerable to the whims of fashion. Wanting to look good,sexy etc...Christians women are not exempt from this type behavior. But as Christian women we cannot follow the fashions of this evil world . We are in the world but not of this world. Leave the immodest clothing to the unsaved.


Robyn, ChristiaNet 58 Comments [7/10/2010 11:00:21 AM]
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Quote# 105821

Kirk is correct:

If evolution made me....I must change through the years.

I didn't evolve, I grew.

I didn't change from a fish to a human being.

Therefore there is No genetic mutations within me and never will be.

I will always remain a human being, even in eternity. I won't become an angel either. I will remain a human being.

I may receive an imperishable body and become immortal after I leave this year, but I will always be a human being, adopted by God, because I received Jesus Christ as my Savior.


Sandy

dlo_3us2001, Realabortiondebate 44 Comments [1/15/2015 4:05:30 AM]
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Quote# 12116

Pit Bulls have been known to do some real damange to children. As a result of this there are cities that would like to ban the Pit Bull. The only problem IS that science can not give us a test to determine what is a Pit Bull. Even the different catagories of dogs do not really fit as far as guard dogs, hunting dogs, sheep dogs and so forth. It is clear that there are a lot of dogs that just do not fit into a convenient catagory and they are difficult to classify.

So if science can not tell us what is and what is not a pit bull, then why should we trust them when they try to tell us that one species evolved into another?

JohnR7, Christian Forums 29 Comments [6/4/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24455

Okay I'm taking my new car tag back. It has three 6's in it.

Dee, Rapture Ready 37 Comments [4/30/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 103083

Intactivists are generally discouraged from talking about things we cannot prove. Like, does circumcision sometimes mess up personal relationships and contribute to divorce? And could there be a connection between circumcision and war?

As I see it, all boys are born with an intact penis. Boys left intact, what you might call the default, become men with the genitals that have evolved over hundreds of millions of years. They are going to function perfectly with their female counterpart: they evolved to function together. And if those parts were defective, evolution would have eradicated them.

Once you cut off the foreskin, though (say as a sacrifice to the gods or as a painful rite of passage), the law of unintended consequences kicks in. In the old days, people had no idea what they were cutting off. And they cut off only the part of the foreskin that extended beyond the head of the penis. And even today, American medical associations don't talk about the anatomy or physiology of the part they are cutting off.

As I see it, physicians who would cut if off have to prove that there is a medical basis for it and that it does no harm. Whereas medical associations outside the U.S. say there is no medical basis for it and that it does cause pain, physical harm, sexual problems, and sometimes psychological harm.

So to get to the point, American physicians cannot prove that circumcision does not injure the brains of newborns. They have no resistance to pain. They are bombarded with pain. What effect does this have on the brain? We know that circumcision changes sensitivity to pain, possibly for life, so what is happening to the infant brain?

The same with sex. American medical associations claim that circ. does not affect men's sex lives (they don't mention women). That's just B.S. Without a foreskin, the penis doesn't function properly. It's only common sense that it you remove 1/2 of the penile covering, full of nerves and blood vessels, it must change sensation. And studies show that the foreskin is the most sensitive part of the penis. So the likelihood is great that circumcision messes up men's sex lives. And since it turns the penis into a dry stick, that it's going to mess up women's sex lives. Doctors cannot prove otherwise.

Now what effect do you think this has on relationships? There is evidence that circumcised men are less likely to be open about their feelings. Which makes sense. And there is evidence that women enjoy sex more with intact men and less with circumcised men, which makes sense. E.g., one study said women feel less fulfilled with sex. Well then it makes sense that couples are going to be more unhappy with each other, and that this could contribute to the divorce rate. Again, it makes sense, and doctors cannot prove otherwise.

The same can be said of aggressiveness. I keep hearing the rule that abuse begets abuse. You were abused, you abuse someone else. Men who were circumcised are much more likely to opt to circumcise their sons. Violence is inflicted on you, for some reason, you are more likely to inflict it on others.

So it is reasonable to ask, might circumcision contribute to aggression and war? Some could argue no, consider Hitler. You could argue yes, presently circumcised populations are perpetually at war, while the non-circumcised countries mostly are at peace. So circumcision might contribute to the war-like nature of the U.S. Doctors can't prove otherwise.

Maybe circumcision contributes to autism too. There's evidence for that. Doctors can't prove otherwise.

All I'm saying is, all of these claims that circumcision really messes men up and their partners more than ever imagined in the 1950's when 90% of men were circumcised are worthy of consideration. They might all be true. We should keep investigating and see if there is a basis for these claims.

The only possible conclusion is that we no one should cut off part of boys' or girls' genitals. It causes all these harms that were pretty obvious, and have been proven, but it might be more harmful than we know today. There's no money in it for doctors, investigating how harmful circumcision is. So the only conservative thing to do to avoid all these problems - the ones that are obvious and the unintended ones - it to leave boys' penises alone.

photenman, Foreskin Restoration Forum 44 Comments [9/1/2014 3:28:54 AM]
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Quote# 116203

I challenge all those who dress with no attention to modesty to explain how baring their bodies to men does anything to liberate themselves. [...] If we want society to treat us as liberated females why would we ever dress in ways that imply that our worth is based solely on how much sexual pleasure we can give to random men we pass on the street?

How is making our bodies for men's sexual fantasies liberating, especially when we have no control whatsoever what the men who see them are thinking about??? Once you show your body immodestly, you can never take that back. The image will remain in the memory of the men who see it, and they are free to do whatsoever with your image.

It used to be that men paid women to use them for sexual purposes. If that wasn't bad enough, today's society encourages women to let men use them for free.

Rebecca, Aish.com 17 Comments [1/22/2016 4:08:41 AM]
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Quote# 107200

Another secret Rabbi Brody shares with us is that keeping niddah brings prosperity to a couple. [...] According to Kabbalah, there are several main spiritual pipelines, or channels, by which our sustenance is brought down from Above. [T]he main pipeline for prosperity is the wife. Therefore, the cleaner the pipe, the greater the channel is for receiving abundance from Hashem. For a husband to reach his full potential in his career and business ventures, the wife's soul must be a pure channel for abundance. I like to think of spiritual impurities as "spiritual cholesterol". They are unhealthy for the soul and body, as these blockages greatly diminish the amount of abundance that is able to reach it's intended destination.

[...]

Regarding the husband, Rabbi Brody explains that instances of prostate cancer are significantly lower among men whose wives observe niddah. The same holds true for rates of uterine, ovarian, and cervical cancer.

There is another reason why it's called "family purity". The children that are born from such a pure and holy union are blessed in every way. "When two parents are pure channels, they impart their purity to their children," states Rabbi Brody. During the time of conception, Hashem acts as a partner with the parents in the creation of a new child. This child will be born with a healthy and balanced mental and emotional disposition, along with a sharp mind and a good heart. Conversely, children that are born of an impure union are more likely to suffer emotional and mental disorders, anxiety, and be more difficult to raise. This is because the child received the impurity from the parents at the time of conception.

Racheli Reckles, Breslev.co.il 24 Comments [3/19/2015 3:38:37 AM]
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Quote# 123218

JFK put a an on the moon, Obama put a guy in the ladies bathroom

Slimjeezy, Reddit 24 Comments [12/23/2016 4:14:03 PM]
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Quote# 31016

I'm surprised at how you feel you need to cling to the idea that all female animals (or some or any) have pain at birthing.
Very interesting
Well
Perhaps you guys never knew this very pregnany aspect of human reproduction . Not even suspected it.

I insist that only female people have pain at childbirth.
Not apes or elephants.
If I'm wrong then a few references from the science sources you all tell me you haunt should PROVE ME WRONG.
All chips in boys.

The hyaena makes my case. If this is all you got then there must be a fundamental difference between our women and allll the kinds of animals that give live birth. (Unles you saying chickens egg laying isn't as fun as it seems).
I also insist the hyaena is not suffering pain giving birth in any way similiar in its process to the womenfolk. There may be a 2 second yelp for a first birth rip. This doesn't count and shows desperation on your part to say this is birth pains too.

Again I say all my knowledge on human birthpain exclusity is from evolutionist premised literature.
They explain away it by saying upright walking changed this and that. Not about a bigger head but thats a good point too I guess. Though I'd take a baby head over a rhino butt anyday.
Did I hit a embarrassing nerve??

Robert Byers, IIDB 58 Comments [11/9/2007 9:19:34 PM]
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Quote# 108629

You'll never hear Pat Robertson, Ray Comfort, nor Kirk Cameron speak evil against the hellish Catholic religion. Catholics believe in being born-again. Did you know that? Albeit, their understanding of the term is totally unbiblical, flawed, and a false gospel. Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron are publicly silent about Catholicism. I'm not. The Catholic Church is straight from Hell, and you're going to Hell if you think keeping sacraments, getting wet in a baptistery, or confessing your sins to some heathen priest saturated with sins himself will get you into Heaven when you die!

I don't condemn anyone, for the Bible condemns all mankind as guilty sinners (Romans 3:19; 14:10). The Devil is working relentlessly to bring damnable heresies into our churches, to corrupt people's minds and lead them into apostasy away from the Lord. I hate all modern Bible versions for that very reason. Kirk Cameron and Ray Comfort use corrupt Bible versions, so it's not surprising that their doctrines are also corrupt. Corrupt Bibles lead to corrupt teachings, which leads to corrupt living, and eventually Hell if that person doesn't get born-again!

Kirk Cameron is without question an awesome actor and has starred in some amazing movies, like Fireproof. But the bigger picture is that all these ecumenical ministers and celebrities turned Christian, are supportive of the New World Order's agenda to unite the world's various religions into one. By remaining silent about the evils of the Catholic religion, they are all part of the problem. Kirk Cameron won't criticize the Pope nor the Catholic religion, which is blatantly a false religion one billion strong. Everyone is afraid to speak out against the Catholic Church. Pope Benedict XVI said in 2005 that people can be saved even without having any Biblical faith. It's sad, but true, in my opinion Ray Comfort is just trying to make a living, having found his niche in the religious world; but they won't tell the real truth, i.e., that Catholics are all going to Hell in their unbelief.

In The Evidence Bible, Ray Comfort says that there are millions of unsaved people amongst Catholics and Protestants. The false implication is that some Catholics are saved within the Catholic religion. Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron are weak-kneed when it comes to standing up against the almighty Catholic religion. You don't have to wonder where I stand... the Catholic Church is Satanic!!!

Lest he should offend any Catholics, on pg. 1358 Ray Comfort states...

“There are millions of Catholics and Protestants who have never been born again and need to hear the gospel”

SOURCE: THE EVIDENCE BIBLE, by Ray Comfort, pg. 1358; 2003, Bridge-Logos Publishers, Orlando, Florida

Although that is a true statement by Mr. Comfort, the fact of the matter is that Catholics by doctrine are ALL going straight to Hell, because they are trusting upon a works-based salvation (i.e., self-righteousness). In sharp contrast, most Protestant churches hold to a Free Grace view of the Gospel. I just don't understand why, or how, Ray Comfort would bring Protestant believers down to the same level as the damnable Catholic religion. The fact of the matter is that there are millions of saved Protestants; but there are NO SAVED CATHOLICS if they are genuine Catholics.

Why doesn't Ray Comfort speak the truth... there are over ONE BILLION unsaved Catholics in the world!!!

Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron Use Modern Corrupt Bibles

Romans 10:9 in the New International Version (NIV) deceitfully teaches the hellish doctrine of Lordship Salvation. Instead of teaching “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus”; the NIV says you have to “confess Jesus is Lord” to be saved. Blasphemy! So you see, the Bible that you are using means everything. The NIV preaches an entirely different Gospel than the inspired King James Bible does. Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron are using corrupted Bibles, as are John MacArthur, Max Lucado, Rick Warren, Pat Robertson, Billy Graham and all the other apostates and enemies of God today.

My goal is not to be unkind against Mr. Cameron. I did not publish this article to attack him on a personal level. I love everywhere, including Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron; but I love Jesus first and foremost and I must expose false prophets who corrupt the Gospel message. Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron teach the heresy of Lordship Salvation. Cameron promotes John MacArthur's Study Bible on his website, Mr. Lordship Salvation himself. MacArthur is an unsaved Modernist.

The common denominator between all these men are that they all use modern corrupted versions of the Bible. I only trust and use the precious, preserved, and inspired King James Bible. They all use either the hellish New International Version [NIV] or the demonic New King James Bible [NKJB], which are BOTH based upon the heretical Greek text of Westcott and Hort (upon which the Jehovah's Witnesses demonic cult also base their New World Translation). The truth is in plain site if you want it. Most people don't want THE TRUTH.

Most of the false prophets teaching the heresy of Lordship Salvation are from California (John Mac Arthur, Ray Comfort, Kirk Cameron, Jack Chick, et cetera). California is a hotbed of false prophets! Lordship Salvation is the teaching that a person must stop living in sin to be saved. In Jack Chick's case, he's a bit more subtle, teaching that it's not enough to admit one's sinnership to be saved; but a person must also be willing to stop living in sin to be saved. These are all damnable heresies that destroy the gift of God. You don't give up anything to be saved; Jesus gave up everything to pay for our sins. Jesus came into the world to SAVE SINNERS! If you want to be saved, then repent toward God by placing your faith in Jesus Christ, the Son of God, to forgive your sins. It's that simple. God will take care of the rest from there.

The issue is not about Kirk Cameron; but rather, the corrupt Bibles, corrupt religious teachers, corrupt plans of salvation, corrupt organizations, corrupt televangelists, corrupt Contemporary Christian Music [CCM] singers... as with most religious people today, kindly but truthfully said, Kirk Cameron is CORRUPTED!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 18 Comments [5/16/2015 3:33:26 AM]
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Quote# 37233

This line of reasoning is unsustainable. If seemingly "homosexual" acts among animals are in accordance with animal nature, then parental killing of offspring and intra-species devouring are also in accordance with animal nature. Bringing man into the equation complicates things further. Are we to conclude that filicide and cannibalism are according to human nature?

Luiz Sérgio Solimeo, NARTH 35 Comments [4/4/2008 9:19:01 PM]
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Quote# 28994

The end is CREATED by the means. Evolution, with its “might makes right” fosters meanness. When it takes over in men’s minds no more of the: “There but for the grace of God go I.” Instead it’s: “Survival of the ‘fittest’ and slavery and death for the weak.” Pain, suffering, and death are exemplified as purifying and building up, when they actually pull down.

Editor, CSE blogs 31 Comments [9/15/2007 10:33:07 PM]
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Quote# 125652

The National Endowment for the Arts (NEA), National Endowment for the Humanities (NEH), National Public Radio (NPR), and the Public Broadcasting Service (PBS), are all subsidized by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB). The Trump administration is right to propose a budget that completely guts these entities of federal funding. That is why I am asking members of the House and Senate Appropriations Committees to honor the president’s request.

Justice demands that these agencies should be eliminated: Taxpayers should not be forced to pay for assaults on their religion. Christians constitute roughly 75 percent of the population; Catholics are approximately 25 percent of the total. In the name of “art,” these Americans are expected to pay for irreverent exhibits, but depictions that are reverential—such as a nativity scene outside City Hall—are denied a dime. It’s time we stopped giving the arts a privileged position and cut their funding. The same is true for publicly funded radio and TV programming that has a history of insulting the majority of Americans.

The CPB was founded in the 1960s, and it has been plagued with problems ever since. In the late 1980s, the NEA funded Andre Serrano’s “Piss Christ” and Robert Mapplethorpe’s “The Perfect Moment.” Serrano took a crucifix and dropped it into a jar of his own urine, branding it art. The NEA gave a Philadelphia museum $30,000 to display graphic homosexual S&M photos taken by Mapplethorpe.

In 1998, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that there is no constitutional prohibition against Congress setting decency standards for the NEA. But attempts by the NEA to enforce grant recipients to sign an anti-obscenity pledge went nowhere. This is why Congress must act.

To show how perverse things have become, President Barack Obama not only approved generous grants to the NEA, he actually included $50 million for the arts as part of his “federal stimulus package.” One of the first beneficiaries was a San Francisco outfit, CounterPULSE. It received $25,000 to pay for employees’ salaries. What did the public get from it? The group hosted “a long-running pansexual performance series” called “Perverts Put Out”; it asked the audience to “Join your fellow pervs for some explicit twisted fun.”

Bill Donohue, Joe. My. God. 14 Comments [3/22/2017 4:02:50 PM]
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Quote# 1340

[Replying to 'at what point would it become "fully not a rabbit"?']When it becomes something else. For petesake how can you not get it??? I don't know what you are going to evolve it into. A dog? A bear? I cannot answer your question with a specific animal other than to say "anything other than a rabbit"!!! If I say an animal, you will say "that's not how science works". If I don't say a specific one, you say my challenge is meaningless. This all stems from you knowing you cannot do it and are hoping for some sort of loophole. I'm not going to give you one.

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Quote# 50608

Having 5 or 6 children IS NATURAL, because God made us such, that we MUST multiply, not merely commanding us to. They say what populates the planet, is extremely pleasurable. Ever wonder why? Because passing on human life is vital

Does false evolution theory tell you that "stable" human pop is natural? Evolution also lies, claims that humans are nothing special, so why not mug somebody and steal their wallet? Wars, crimes, who cares? Christian worldview tells me to SERVE people.

pronatalist, youtube 53 Comments [10/26/2008 5:54:27 PM]
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Quote# 57943

[Who created God?]

God does not provide us with HIS background information... no matter, it isn't necessary for us to understand God's origins (IF He has any) to accept that 'HE' is responsible for creating life.

God does say in the Bible that He is *SPIRIT* and not subject to or like the creation.

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