Quote# 108455

Tell you about Creation? No problem.

In the beginning, God created.
Done. Wasn't that easy? And the universe confirms it. Overwhelming evidence of clear intelligent design with purpose in everything we see.

I'll elaborate. I know most of you anti God, LGBT trolls are a little slow.

There's just no getting around the intelligent design argument. Unless you're a blooming id!ot. Creation itself testifies of our Creator. Just the discoveries in a strand of DNA should have ended all debate a long time ago: “DNA is an information code. The overwhelming conclusion is that information DOES NOT and CANNOT arise spontaneously by mechanistic processes. INTELLIGENCE is a necessity in the origin of any informational code, including the genetic code, NO MATTER how much time is given.” (Lane Lester, Ph.D. Genetics, The Natural Limits to Biological Change, 1989.)

Open a medical book and see the absolute marvel that is the human body. Flip through the different systems of our bodies. And then try to “fit” evolution into what you are actually seeing. Circulatory system, nervous system, skeletal system, muscular system, digestive system, endocrine system, immune system, urinary system, reproductive system, respiratory system. Ridiculous integration and complexity in design! So many complex systems designed to work together or not at all. We are incredible "machines" that defy "magic". The logical conclusion is intelligent design. The illogical, "magic".

Now lets have a look at the universe. Einstein and his contemporaries believed the universe was a constant. That it had no beginning, that it always just was. Until Hubble came along and proved with scientific measurements that it was expanding and so, indeed, had a beginning from which it expanded. The Bible for thousands of years has told us that creation began suddenly when God proclaimed, “Let there be light.” Further, the Bible repeatedly states that God has “stretched out the heavens.” Interesting choice of words as it turns out. Scientists today are confirming that our universe indeed had a beginning, a sudden explosion of light followed by rapid expansion. Einstein and the greatest scientific minds of the twentieth century, WRONG. BIBLE RIGHT. Can you explain that for me? Guess those simple shepherds just guessed it right, huh? Just another COINCIDENCE in a never ending chain of coincidences where God is concerned.

Whatever you want to believe, the Bible has already told us that this universe we live in had a beginning and science confirms it. So WHERE did IT come from? WHAT caused IT to BE? Big Bang? Obviously, SOMEBODY made IT (?) go bang!

What you would call "magic", I know as GOD. No matter how you cut it, everything came from somewhere, and SOMEONE or SOMETHING had to just BE, for it all to come FROM. Had to be a starting point.
Now what is more logical?

Magic? Or the Intelligent Design that is overwhelmingly supported by the body of evidence? Exactly. My "hypocritical statements"? Hardly.
I'm just not fool enough to believe that highly complex "machines" and systems CREATE THEMSELVES. Just follow the scientific evidence and let's give the credit to WHO it is due.

The Last Trump, Christian News Network 46 Comments [5/8/2015 3:23:40 AM]
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Quote# 2507

He is not against science. He is against Evolution. He claims to be a doctor of science. Evolution is the evil enemy, not science.

JohnR7, Christian Forums 1 Comments [3/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 114316

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SALT LAKE CITY — The LDS Church confirmed Thursday that children living with same-sex parents or guardians will not be allowed membership in the church until reaching "legal age" and the individual "disavows the practice of same-gender cohabitation and marriage."

The new instructions are included in a revision to Handbook 1, the guide for stake presidents and bishops.


Handbook 1, number 6.7.2 has been updated as follows (addition is highlighted):

When a Disciplinary Council May Be Necessary

Serious Transgression

. . . It includes (but is not limited to) attempted murder, forcible rape, sexual abuse, spouse abuse, intentional serious physical injury of others, adultery, fornication, homosexual relations (especially sexual cohabitation), deliberate abandonment of family responsibilities, . . .

Handbook 1, number 6.7.3 has been updated as follows (addition is highlighted):

When a Disciplinary Council is Mandatory


As used here, apostasy refers to members who:

1. Repeatedly act in clear, open, and deliberate public opposition to the Church or its leaders.
2. Persist in teaching as Church doctrine information that is not Church doctrine after they have been corrected by their bishop or a higher authority.
3. Continue to follow the teachings of apostate sects (such as those that advocate plural marriage) after being corrected by their bishop or a higher authority.
4. Are in a same-gender marriage.
5. Formally join another church and advocate its teachings.

A new section in Handbook 1, 16.13 has been added as follows:

Children of a Parent Living in a Same-Gender Relationship

A natural or adopted child of a parent living in a same-gender relationship, whether the couple is married or cohabiting, may not receive a name and a blessing.

A natural or adopted child of a parent living in a same-gender relationship, whether the couple is married or cohabiting, may be baptized and confirmed, ordained, or recommended for missionary service only as follows:

A mission president or a stake president may request approval from the Office of the First Presidency to baptize and confirm, ordain, or recommend missionary service for a child of a parent who has lived or is living in a same-gender relationship when he is satisfied by personal interviews that both of the following requirements are met:

1. The child accepts and is committed to live the teachings and doctrine of the Church, and specifically disavows the practice of same-gender cohabitation and marriage.
2. The child is of legal age and does not live with a parent who has lived or currently lives in a same-gender cohabitation relationship or marriage.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, KSL 23 Comments [11/11/2015 4:02:32 AM]
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Quote# 99499

"Marriage is a combat multiplier in that it gives married troops hope and a reason to fight well, defending ones country, of which marriage and families are the foundation. But homosexuality is a combat divider, dividing one's reason to live while taking breaks on the combat field to change diapers all because their treacherous sin causes them to lose control of their bowels.

Gordon Klingenschmitt & John Kauffman, RightWingWatch Blogs 32 Comments [2/21/2014 4:16:32 AM]
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Quote# 30499

Jawbones and eyebrow ridges never stop growing..it is likely that "neandrathals" where just humans pre-flood. Humans lived longer then for various reasons and they would have appeard more neandrathal like given their age. It's all about having a Biblical world view when examining science so that it makes sense...someone with a Biblical world view would have already guessed that the brain structure and size would have been similar if not identical to today...

jds6958, Rapture Ready 38 Comments [10/27/2007 8:49:54 PM]
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Quote# 61020

"Studies show that no society that has totally embraced homosexuality has lasted more than, you know, a few decades. So it's the death knell of this country. I honestly think it's the biggest threat our nation has, even more so than terrorism or Islam — which I think is a big threat, okay? Cause what's happening now is they are going after, in schools, two-year olds...And this stuff is deadly, and it's spreading, and it will destroy our young people, it will destroy this nation."

Sally Kern, Political Speech 64 Comments [3/30/2009 4:42:35 PM]
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Quote# 106742

The homosexual invasion of the churches is everywhere. Every day that goes by we find another so-called Christian leader or pastor declaring that he is going to embrace the homosexual agenda and jettison the clear teachings of Scripture.

Of course they won't put it in those terms, but that is exactly what they are doing. They are rebelling against God, and effectively spitting in his face as they declare that they know better than God in regards to all things sexual. What God calls an abomination and depravity they call a "gift of God" and something to celebrate and flaunt.


When you call God a liar on the issue of homosexuality, and claim that you are being more loving, more compassionate, and more fair by embracing the sin of sodomy and sodomite marriage, then you have clearly declared your hand here. You have rebelled against God and the clear teachings of Scripture.

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch 13 Comments [3/27/2015 3:09:15 AM]
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Quote# 43833

66. RE: World's Biggest Science Project Aims to Unlock 'God Particle'
how are putting all these facts out there that aren't true. As if someone was there 4.5 billion years ago when the Big Bang happened. You guys believe we came from a rock and yet you say that people believe in a god that they do not know exsists. You beleive the that great great great great grandpa was soup that came alive. Take away billions of years and your theory looks very stupid

Poster 67, Popular Mechanics 35 Comments [7/29/2008 10:32:11 PM]
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Quote# 93096

Ah! Another egotistical atheist! A person who believes in worship of self! There are a lot of things I believe based on historical accounts. I believe that Julius Caesar once ruled Rome (but where is his tomb?) I believe Alexander once conquered the known world. (proof?) I believe that the battle of Marathon took place. (where are the graves?) I believe that there once was an island called Kakatoa which self destructed. (anybody out there a witness to that?) I believe that the battle of Concord and Lexington took place (any proof besides eyewitness testimony?
God's existence does not rely on faith. Not yours, not mine. If you choose to ignore the truth, that's entirely up to you. It matters not.

Fabuladico, Huffington Post 38 Comments [3/13/2013 3:59:43 AM]
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Quote# 68581

[referring to Ray Comfort]

You are talking about a man who has influenced millions on the planet toward finding God. Whatever efforts he has made clearly resonate with people. Just what exactly have you achieved that is so profound as to put you on a pedestal to judge another man? Are you under the delusion that your opinion is worth more than his? He is trying to save souls and if you believed what he did you would do the same.

Still Thinking, Yahoo! Answers 26 Comments [12/15/2009 7:05:55 AM]
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Quote# 93977

Your Freedom Are Precious

I hope that after what happened in Boston American's,realize that they.Can lose there freedoms at,any minute!!This horrific tragedy was committed by two Muslims who were trained,in Russia by al-Quadia.We must unfortunately be on guard at all times because,of what.Is going on in America.The man who is occupying the Oval Office believes in letting illegals in this Saudi who.Was under tight security in the hospital after the blast,who was thought to be involved!!Said he was not and will be deported back to Saudi Arabia!!No back round checks are done on these illegals,under this man!!So again I say it's unfortunate but you must be careful of those,you do not know.For those who were on hand to help during this tragedy,my hat is off to you!!!

Jaclyn Barnes, aish.com 53 Comments [4/26/2013 2:36:51 AM]
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Quote# 35951

Atheists are heartless pricks. In fact, if you tell them that gesundheit makes them sound like Nazis, they'll be more inclined to say it.

MessiahWWKD, http://adequacy.org 49 Comments [3/8/2008 8:28:52 PM]
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Quote# 101269

[Taken from the video in the link]

It is obvious that Jefferson was talking about a one way wall to prevent government from interfering with the free exercise of religion. In no way, shape or form can we surmise that prevents the church from having an influence on every area of society, as we should. The church should be influencing the media, should be influencing arts and entertainment, sports, education, business and, yes, government. Now, let's just see what has happened in the last forty years. In 1962, and 1963, prayer and Bible study were taken out of schools and the church remained silent. Their excuse? It's a political issue. How can you infer that prayer and Bible study are a political issue, I don't know, but that's what the churches say. The consequence of their silence was after 1963, teen pregnancy skyrocketed and violent crime skyrocketed.


Just recently, the Supreme Court struck down parts of the Defense of Marriage Act. Again, the church remained silent. Same excuse: it's a political issue. Consequence: the erosion of the traditional family. The question is, how long are we going to remain silent? But the more important question is, will God hold us accountable for our silence?

Rafael Cruz, Right Wing Watch 36 Comments [5/31/2014 5:38:17 AM]
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Quote# 51216

[Nope. I refer in particular to those [deaths] caused by the Catholic church's opposition to safe sex. ]

You're an infected little shit aren't you? You get all those hideous diseases because of your life-style, and then you blame the *Catholics* for the consequences?

Piss off, you disgusting excuse for a human being.

[A few posts later in the same thread.]

The sheer hate and bile that atheists show online by itself would indicate people who shouldn't be placed in charge of anything.

Those who all but murder their fellow man in usenet would gladly do the same in person if the chance occurred.

All the best,

Roger Pearse

roger_pearse, talk.origins 16 Comments [11/4/2008 10:14:25 PM]
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Quote# 116891

[ Personally I think homosexuality is rather disgusting (but I'm a hypocrite when it comes to lesbians...shame on me), but who am I...who are we pretending to be by saying SOMEONE ELSE cannot have a different ideology than us? ]

Weak. To use a comparison, think about how having sex and going nude in public is illegal under 'public indecency'. Your argument here does not apply. "Personally, I think that going nude in public is rather disgusting, but who am I...who are we pretending to be by saying SOMEONE ELSE cannot have a different ideology than urs?" I mean, do you see how this doesn't hold any water? 'Different ideology', as demonstrated by the current laws and those of history, does not grant you a universal right to do whatever you want. The opinions of society must be taken into account.

[ k, let's see. Ur friend is a homo, she likes girls only. Does it affect u? No, unless u like her.

Another example, u're an atheist, and ur friend is a Christian. Does that bother u? No, unless he tries to make u believe there is a god.

Still a weak argument. There is a reason for public indecency laws. The majority should not have to put up with an action from the minority that causes their lives to be uncomfortable. There are a lot of things that you don't like. There are a lot of things that I don't like. However, there are also things that society dislikes. I and much of society object fundamentally to the thought of having to live through something that disgusts me--not just ideologically, but biologically. For instance, society dislikes people pissing everywhere. What are you going to say now--just pin up your nose? Really? For instance, this forum dislikes me putting up nude pictures. What's your reply to that--close your eyes?

I am okay with closing up all homosexuals into a room and letting them live there. Or maybe making a homosexual town for them to live. That's what you're saying, right?

[he's talking about the reasons why marriage is forbidden.

if it's not becuz they are the same gender, it's becuz one of them is black (aka racism) or Hispanics, Jew or Muslims (religion), all of them are stupid.

That's a really dumb comparison to make.Racial/Cultural lines is one thing. I am prepared to transcend that.To step over what biology dictates...that's objectionable.

Once again, I am wholeheartedly open with having gays in forests and deserts, where they have nothing to do with me. I am very open to this. However, the legalization of same-sex marriage means that they have the same rights as us and can cuddle in public and can flirt in public and sneak a quick kiss in public. I cannot stand for that.

. Homosexuals can go ahead and be homosexuals. You can be whatever kind of messed up person you are. Just as long as I have no part in it.
I am okay with homosexuals being closet homosexuals. I do not want to persecute them. However, I fundamentally object to them having the same public rights as us.

Xeru, BattleDawn 18 Comments [2/19/2016 4:34:15 AM]
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Quote# 120287

Sensitive ladies may be offended by parts of this article and, likewise, it may not be suitable for innocent children unless some additional guidance is provided.

My Oxford Concise Dictionary (1975 edition) provides the following definition of the word 'gay': "Full of disposal to or indicating mirth, light hearted, sportive; airy, offhand." My Universal Dictionary of the English Language gives it as: "Filled with, expressing, inclined to, joy, and lively feeling; merry, light-hearted, cheerful." There is, as can readily be seen, nothing 'gay' about the activities of the sodomist. In straightforward terms, and with apologies to the sensitive reader, he is a person who obtains sexual gratification by inserting his member into the anal orifice of another man.

This monstrous practice is also known as buggery, and was, at one time and very understandably, illegal in most countries of the Western World. Sadly, this word, with its hideous implications, has slipped into common usage as an expletive in expressions of emotion, such as: "Well, I'm buggered!" It is, however, unlikely that those who use such words are truly conscious of their implications, any more than those who use certain four-letter words consider them to have any reference to normal sexual activity.


The term 'toyboy' has, regrettably, also become part of our language, and it is undeniable that some ladies, past their prime, hanker after an affair with a virile younger man. But, on the other hand, it is unusual to read about very young boys being abused by women. Almost always, they are the victims of homosexual perverts, being sought out by men so depraved that only violent penetration of innocence satisfies their lust. And, while we know only too well the dangers that beset our little girls, we also know that the proportion of child-abusers is much higher among sodomites than among heterosexuals. Yet these people believe that they should be allowed to raise families! Would you give the keys of your home to a burglar or put Count Dracula in charge of a blood bank?


The great fight back

When the truth is stood on its head, it is certain that men and women of integrity will notice the inversion and band together to put matters straight. They will not succeed by moaning behind closed doors. The very vocal queer lobby is led and encouraged by so-called 'personalities', including a lot of actors - names and faces familiar to many households, whose addiction to buggery confers upon it some sort of 'respectability' in the minds of more simple folk. Of course, no headway will be made by the pointless crime of 'queer-bashing'. Instead, we need to bring the discussion out into the open - into the pubs and clubs and over the garden fence. We need to quiz our would-be MPs on their views on this subject and reject soft, meaningless answers. Above all, we have to convince society of the pressing need to push these people offstage and assert the morality that made our nation great. If I may revert to my own vernacular of the 1930s, it is time to tell these nancy boys that we have had enough of them!

Colin Vernon, Spearhead 18 Comments [7/4/2016 11:47:34 AM]
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Quote# 92147

I propose that anything with an information content in excess of 1 VEB unit is probably the product of intelligent design. A VEB unit is defined as the quantum of information equal to the amount of information found in one volume of the Encyclopedia Britannica.

If you can find something that contains that much information (i.e., an amount equal to or greater than 1 VEB unit), it will probably be the product of intelligent design.

[heypete: Please provide details of how this survey would be conducted, specifically how one would "determine whether they were the product of intelligent design or random, unguided processes."]

A good place to look for things that contain a quantum of information in excess of 1 VEB unit is the pubic library. That's a good place to conduct the study because most of those things identify an author.

In my studies, all library books containing over 1 VEB unit of information that I have examined were found to be the product of intelligent agency. I have yet to find one that was written by unguided, random processes.

According to Dawkins, the nucleus of each cell "...contains a digitally coded database larger, in information content, than all 30 volumes of the Encyclopaedia Britannica put together." That's over 30 VEB units!

Because a living cell has more than 30 VEB units of information, I can safely conclude with a high degree of scientific confidence that it is highly probable that a living cell is intelligently designed.

SkinnyHead, Fark 36 Comments [1/18/2013 4:10:36 AM]
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Quote# 30263

[In response to Rowling revealing Dumbledore to be gay]

God are these books HYPED to DEATH or WHAT!?!?!?!?

ANd for a chldren;s bbok, I think Gayness should be LEFT OUT.







peirez, AOL News 70 Comments [10/21/2007 10:28:17 AM]
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Quote# 38620

(Totally ignoring the fact that women in Islamic countries wearing hijabs and burqas get raped, but are charged with having sex outsides the confines of marriage)

If the Islamic Shari'a is applied in America, if every man, whenever he sees a woman, would lower his gaze, if every woman is asked to cover herself completely, except for the face and hands up to the wrist, and if there is capital punishment for the rapist – will the rate of crime go up, remain the same, or come down in America? Of course it will come down! Islam gives dignity and protection to the women in Islam, and that is just the reason why Islam has prescribed the hijab.

Indian Cleric Ashraf Mohamedy, MEMRI 50 Comments [5/2/2008 2:14:47 PM]
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Quote# 122116

Jesse Lee Peterson, a conservative pastor and women’s suffrage opponent who is a big fan of Donald Trump, responded to the recent spate of sexual assault allegations against the GOP presidential nominee by claiming that “generation after generation of young girls have been taught” to falsely accuse men of assault and comparing women who bring such charges to Satan.

“Every man is guilty now, every man, and these accusers pour that out at will,” Peterson said on his radio program yesterday. “They get angry about something, you don’t return their call or text, they can just accuse you, because generation after generation of young girls have been taught to do this.”

In a clip from the show that Peterson posted on his YouTube channel, which he labeled “Trump’s ‘Sexual Assault’ Accusers Are Literally Satan’s Daughters,” he accompanied this assertion with an image of Bill Cosby.

“Did you know that Satan was called ‘the Accuser’?” he asked. “That was his primary name. Satan’s primary name was ‘the Accuser.’ Just let that sink in. Satan’s primary name is ‘the Accuser.’ And that’s what we have in our country now, accusers.”

Peterson lamented that boys today go out and “in their minds they are having a good time not realizing that the accuser is lurking.”

If Hillary Clinton is elected president, he said, “imagine where that’s going to go, with laws and accusers coming out—it’s going to be bad. One thing I’ve noticed about the women who have these type of heart, they don’t mind lying about it, they’ll just accuse you.”

“We live in a total different country now and Trump is fighting to make it great again,” he concluded.

Jesse Lee Peterson, Right Wing Watch 21 Comments [10/20/2016 3:20:53 AM]
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