Quote# 19446

As the triumvirate of naturalism--Dawkins, Dennett and Harris--go about pronouncing religion terminal, others are predicting that Darwin's "dangerous idea"--long on life-support--is about to have the plug pulled.

According to Dr. John A. Davidson, emeritus experimental researcher in biology, Darwinism "has failed to survive the acid test of experimental verification" and is finished as a theory. How so? In Dr. Davidson's words, "It is now 147 years since the publication of Darwin's celebrated 'On the Origin of Species,' yet not a single species has been observed to be formed through the mechanism he proposed. That mechanism, the natural selection of randomly produced variations is apparently incompetent to transform contemporary species even into a new member of the same genus. The most intensive artificial selection has also proven to be unable to transcend the species barrier."

As I recall from my graduate radiobiology class, after zillions of generations of radiation-induced mutations on drosophila (the common fruit fly), three things resulted: deformed flies, unchanged flies , and dead flies. What was never observed was a bee, wasp, or sparrow. You're right, Dr. Davidson, the time to put Darwin's fanciful tale to rest is way past due.


Regis Nicoll, Crosswalk.com 40 Comments [1/15/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 10111

I don't think terms like "moral" and "immoral" can be applied to God. Perhaps to "a god", in the sense of a supranatural entity that has much power and demands respect/obedience. But that's not what we're discussing - we're discussing the Christian conception of God as creator and sustainer of all. I simply can't see how such a God can be thought of (especially by His creatures!) as moral or immoral...

jim_w, Internet Infidels 12 Comments [3/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 52458

why is it that I feel absolutely NO desire to pray for a woman who's selfishly and knowingly had scizzors jammed into her fetus's skull 1/2 way out the birth canal?

If I pray anything, I feel like praying that it does haunt her for life; IT SHOULD

Nadiine, Christian Forums 42 Comments [11/17/2008 6:43:51 PM]
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Quote# 11290

[After being told by another member to stop posting articles which are irrelevent and/or derrogatory to other faiths in the non-christian religions section]

ok, let me get this point across to you, I will continue to post PRO christian sources, because that is what god told me to do, and if you don't like it, than you don't have to be there, just turn your head to my threads if you don't approve of what I am doing, but stop this stupidity.


BigChrisFilm, Christian Forums 30 Comments [5/2/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 134295

I... actually agree with this. I personally do not stigmatize pedophilic feelings granted that these feelings are kept to oneself and never acted upon. It's not far fetched to conceive of a situation in which someone who sees children sexually would work a job in which they interacted with them regularly and yet was otherwise a perfectly normal person and upstanding worker. I see it no differently from a nurse taking care of a patient they find attractive. So long as no one is diddling kids then let people work where they want to work, are we the god damn thought police now?

If you know that you are a pedophile, the responsible thing to do is not to deliberately put yourself into a position where you are required to be in close contact with children. That's just common sense.
I'm sure there are people who do it, who have these feelings and work with kids. And I am sure that there are plenty of them that never act on their feelings. Fine. I don't like it, but neither can I really prevent it.
But if you go on to the internet and announce that you are a pedophile AND that you believe you should be working with children, people are going to think you are an irresponsible creep. That's not thought policing. That's reality.
If my alcoholic cousin came to me and said they thought it would be a grand idea to start working as a bartender, I'd suggest they reconsider. That's not thought policing. It's saying, "Hey, you have a temptation that most people don't and that could cause some real damage to the people around you if you give in to, so maybe you should try a job where you aren't constantly surrounded by the one thing that you want but cannot have."
Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you should.



As I've said before, I'm arguing from the position that the pedophile in question is otherwise a perfect teacher who has had their heart set on being one forever. Of course, if you knew them and you knew their temptation you'd talk to them about it, but if they were dead set on it would you truly tell them to just give up on their dream? Also, your analogy isn't too good, drinking alcohol is not illegal, and an alcoholic has already indulged in their temptation enough for it to be a legitimate problem, the pedophile in question has never acted on their lust and in all likelihood never will.




the (adult) patient can tell the nurse to fuck off / press charges / get a restrainin gorder / clock him/her in the face, your choice. children are defenceless.


But they are both exposed to similar temptation, and in the case of both being professionals who are serious about their job, neither would give in.

it doesn't matter: the other party is too vulnerable, the risk is unjustifiable.
it's like saying "I am a very careful smoker, I will make sure my sigarette doesn't drop and make your gas station blow up." You are not allowed to light up, period.
just NO.


Your analogy fails, a smoker already smokes and does so regularly, the pedophile I am discussing has never acted on their lust and likely will never act upon it. It's a thought, not an action.
So you believe we should be policing thoughts? Telling people what they can and cannot do based upon their feelings? Should other professions start doing this too? Should a Nurse in a Convalescent Home be fired for thinking about how much they hate their job?

the disbalance of power (lack of ability to protect him/herself) for a child is so great, you are practically placing him/her totally at mercy of the person who may or may not act upon their feelings. Nope, nope, nope.


ays me, this is the point I am arguing from, if you don't like it then you can stop responding. I described the pedophile in question from the very beginning as someone who has never acted upon their feelings and in all likelihood never would.
You didn't answer my question. Do we start thought-policing people?

When it comes to the vulnerability of a child over an adult's desire to have a specific job, yes.


If you really believe that anyone has the right to control the mind of others for any reason then we've nothing to talk about.



Believe me, I don't condone pedophilia and I'm not trying to protect molesters who would take advantage of children. I just see a group of people who may have legitimate psychological problems they may need help to get over being stigmatized so heavily that they can't find that help and it makes me sympathize with their situation.



yummyfish, /r/TumblrInAction 2 Comments [11/17/2017 3:59:44 AM]
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Quote# 29753

about porn its just the same reason as...

the artist just displayed a nude picture of a boy and a girl and says ITS ART but... the real reason behind it is LUST
some viewers tend to tell that if you have a MATURE MIND you dont' mind putting up porn here but... the real reason is that too much SEX and LUST in the mind of uploader that he/she is not satisfied by self owned DVD copies of porn he/she wants it to share to the world and corrupt the minds of everyone else. Wait a second just noticed... isn't that the same technique of Satan hmmm... temptation technique and here he is the first one to go to hell.

Journal, Stage6 26 Comments [10/7/2007 12:46:05 AM]
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Quote# 50394

I honestly belive the devil is going nuts right now because web sites like RR are spreading the TRUTH! Sites like this board and all people posting in it are now being called nuts cases and many other horrible things. I think this is the beginning of the evil task of trying to wear out the truth sayers.

Dodi, Rapture Ready 46 Comments [10/21/2008 7:20:37 PM]
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Quote# 95474

the friend zone is proof feminism promotes rape culture because if men do not get sex for being nice how else are they gonna get it other than rape. what women want from say johnny depp ( but if average joe blow does it is rape ) they need to accept if they want one guy to rape them they want all men to. if they want to be respected and treated humanly than sex should be a reward for kindness, not aggressive sex object predatory behavior, women used to reward the nice guys ( they made good husbands and fathers they provided for women) for all the years of oppression the feminists complain about. but they reward the same guys they hate so much. while ridiculing the men who protected their mothers and grandmothers for century's
and there would be no nice guy syndrome, if feminism actually cared about equal rights.

Dominic Blais, Dr. NerdLove 55 Comments [7/15/2013 3:11:12 AM]
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Quote# 7981

Believe it or not, Darwin, the original Darwinists and neo-Darwinist theorists today do use supernatural powers inherent in the human mind and in human intelligence to imagine, concoct theories about, and believe in, human evolution in and out of ancient Africa.

jcrawford, Debating Christianity 21 Comments [9/26/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 20931

The influence Vampires have had on European culture should not be underestimated. Who knew Vampires inspired modern wheeled transport, invented large-scale tourism, and lent their images and their kilts to the lids of shortbread tins?

Haynen [quoting a certain Nicolas de Vere], The Resistance Manifesto Forums 44 Comments [2/19/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 33689

There is a boycott on the new one dollar coin because "In God we Trust" is missing from it. Do not accept it as change. Ask for a paper one dollar bill instead. If we all boycott this coin, we can force it out of circulation. We need to keep God in public life and this country must not forget God. Pass this around to your family and friends and email contacts.

Martin Carr, Battlecry 79 Comments [1/17/2008 3:40:11 AM]
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Quote# 56596

Each morning, my wife and I go out on the deck, look up and say "You coming Lord?"

ABKN, prophecy fellowship 69 Comments [1/20/2009 3:50:50 PM]
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Quote# 61466

My nine- and eleven-year-old daughters came in from a neighbor's house complaining of a young mother's failure to train her child. A seven-month-old boy had, upon failing to get his way, stiffened, clenched his fists, bared his toothless gums and called down damnation on the whole place. At a time like that, the angry expression on a baby's face can resemble that of one instigating a riot. The young mother, wanting to do the right thing, stood there in helpless consternation, apologetically shrugged her shoulders and said, "What can I do?" My incredulous nine-year-old whipped back, "Switch him." The mother responded, "I can't, he's too little." With the wisdom of a veteran who had been on the little end of the switch, my daughter answered, "If he is old enough to pitch a fit, he is old enough to be spanked."

Michael & Debi Pearl's daughter, To Train Up a Child 99 Comments [4/15/2009 5:51:21 PM]
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Quote# 21510

Actually, I did notice the humanistic philosophy you are trying to promote. It will not be tolerated. You may have noticed that this is a Christian forum. Our answers are intended to help you live a life pleasing and honorable to God. Second, our answers are Bible-based. So long as you do not acknowledge the authority of the Word of God and the existence of God, we have no common ground upon which to have a discussion.

The devil is quite the liar. He has deceived you already - he has you believing that there is no meaning in your life and that there are possible alternatives to God's will. But the Devil is a liar. He lied when he proclaimed that he would ascend above God, he lied when he deceived Eve in the Garden of Eden and he lied when he convinced you. There is a difference between me lying about whether I like your hair or not and the devil's lies, though. Where I may not want to hurt your feelings, the devil wants you dead in sin condemned to Hell. Whether through suicide, murder or disease, the devil wants you dead. If you are dead, you cannot choose to serve God. If you die in your sin, without choosing to accept the free gift of salvation from God, you will go to Hell, and spend eternity burning.


Bro Randy, Teens 4 Christ 37 Comments [3/3/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 68007

Atheists: Does it not take faith to deny the evidence that more than 1/3 of the world population?
...has presented to you?? More than 1/3 of the world population believe in God and has experienced His Spirit; does it not take faith to deny such a huge evidence?


Chi , Yahoo Answers  72 Comments [12/10/2009 5:37:16 PM]
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Quote# 106411

What does it mean to reverentially submit to Jesus? It means that your nose is pressed into the dirt in front of His feet and you are totally owning the fact that you’re depraved scum that doesn’t deserve to ever stand in the Presence of a holy God. Let’s get real about calling Jesus your Savior—that title means nothing unless you think you need someone to save you. “Lord” and “Savior” are not just nicknames we attach to Jesus. They are words which we use to communicate our understanding of our relationship to Him. “Lord” means Jesus is God Almighty and we are lowly slaves who don’t get to have any say about anything. “Savior” means we earned the torment of Hell with our hideous behavior, but in an act of unprecedented mercy, Jesus took our punishment upon Himself and saved our souls from unthinkable agony. If you aren’t thinking of any of these things when you go around calling Jesus your Lord and Savior, then you are in a very serious crisis. Jesus isn’t some nice Guy who treats all the agony He went through on the cross like it’s no big deal. Jesus demands that you lower yourself in front of Him. You don’t get in with Jesus with a simple high five. He is God Almighty. Your soul has to be on its face. Your pride has to be flattened. Reverential submission is an attitude which says, “I am worthless and You are worthy. I am scum but You are glorious. I am a wretch but You are perfect.”

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 34 Comments [2/15/2015 4:38:46 AM]
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Quote# 15342

['I had lunch with a good friend yesterday who's from a Muslim country. We talked about the world situation and he repeatedly said how great he believes America is. He didn't kill me by the way, he's not a terrorist. I'm sorry you have so much hate Diane.']

Yeah, I love simple minded, self deluded sheep like that. There's even a few of those idiots that post here in these forums.

"I have a FRIEND who is a Muslim, s/he always tells me how great America is. S/He ALWAYS tells me the 'Radicles' don't have any idea what Islam is about...."

When I see a woman say this, I have this over-powering desire to find this woman, and date her. After all, the gullible bitch is RIPE for being taken advantage of.

Don't these assholes realize that their "muslim friends" can say what ever the fuk they WANT to them. They can tell you EXACTLY what you want to hear. And then later that night, when they're back with their family and other muslims, the conversation changes.

"Yeah, I have this American friend. MAN is this bitch stupid! I keep telling her how much I LOVE America. Then when she gets up to go get another coke, I spit in the fat ignorant bitches salad! HAHAHAHA!"

So all you mindless sheep with your "Pro American Muslim Friends", you keep right on believing. But DO NOT FORGET what you have been told. Do not forget the warnings. Because when your "Pro American Muslim Friend" starts sliding that knife across your throat in the name of Jihad, I hope your last thoughts are "Man, what a gullible asshole I have been!".

Because we all know, Muslims kidnap, they kill, they torture, but THEY DAMN WELL NEVER LIE! Yeah, right! You gullible twits!

Gonzo67, Free Conservatives 44 Comments [9/26/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 3970

This country was founded upon a loving God. If you do not believe in God... then you are not part of the solution for this country, you represent all the bitterness, all the greed, all the confusion, and all the hate and murder in the streets and schools.

PetitionOnline Author, PetitionOnline 9 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 60310

(CNN) -- Saudi Arabia's religious police detained two male novelists for questioning last week after they attempted to get the autograph of a female writer at a book fair in Riyadh, according to local media reports.
According to the Saudi daily newspaper Al-Watan, Abdu Khal and Abdullah Thabet approached female writer Halima Muzfar when they were stopped by police.
Both novelists, who were held for questioning but not charged with a crime, are demanding an apology from the conservative Muslim kingdom's Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice.
The commission, feared by many Saudis, is made up of several thousand religious policemen charged with, among other things, enforcement of dress codes, mandatory observance of prayer times and segregation of the sexes.
Saudi Arabia follows a strict interpretation of Islam called Wahhabism and punishes unrelated men and women who are caught mingling in public.


The Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice (Saudi), CNN 37 Comments [3/8/2009 1:00:15 PM]
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Quote# 63918

[Several Muslim celebrations will coincide with September 11th in the coming years. The NYC Council voted to honor such celebrations.]

What complete utter stupidity. Talk about the a slap in the face to all those who died or lost friends and families on 9/11. If this passes I wonder how the residents of NYC are going to take it? Somehow I see many protests over this. I wonder what Obama, oops I mean Barry thinks about this?

So let's see 12% of the school children practice a Muslim belief in New York school system. But recent polls and statistics show that as much of 70-76% of Americans practice Christianity or have belief in Christ. Not sure the percentage of Christians in NYC, but I'm willing to bet that with the parents beliefs passed to their children it is much greater than 12%.

So explain why they continue to take Christ out of Christmas in schools? Why have school children have been told not to bring Bibles to school? And also the fact that evolution is taught in schools. I remember being taught in kindergarten in the mid 80's that we came from apes, when I told my mother this after school, she was HOT! I wonder if there will be a time in America that they start teaching Islamic doctrine in our public schools? The way things are going I can certainly see that happening in the future.

Interesting that, taking from the Christians and giving to the Muslims. Interesting indeed...

hiplove79, Rapture Ready 84 Comments [7/9/2009 1:58:54 PM]
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