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Pertaining to the question of meaning and purpose in life:
If you believe that there is no God then you must conclude that
a. You come from nowhere.
b. You come from no one.
c. When you die you are going nowhere.
d. When you die you are going to no one.
e. You have no objective reason to live.
According to the atheist, your whole existence is just matter in motion. Your thoughts, emotions, and actions are just chemical reactions determined by a set of naturalistic factors. The whole universe came about by chance. You were not intended and your entire being, all that you are, is a complete and total accident. Inevitably, the result is the same for all. We will all one day die and cease to exist. According to the atheist.

The Christian, however, believes he/she was created by a single preeminent and divine being. This being who knows everything and who has designed all things, exists eternally in perfect, loving relationship as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. He is the Triune Creator God. This being deeply loves his creatures and created human beings in order to share His wonderful, perfect life with them so that they could glorify Him in doing so. This is the Christian's purpose in life. The Christian has real, objective meaning for existence because God has reached out to all humanity in Jesus Christ, God incarnate, who bore the sins of the world and gave himself as a living sacrifice so that through faith in Jesus Christ humans could be saved from their sins and their selfish, Godless way of life and begin to be transformed by the Holy Spirit to the image and likeness of Christ, all for the glory of God.

The Christian believes this is why human beings were created and what human beings were intended for: right and loving relationship with God and others so that God could be glorified in them.
In essence, the Christian knows that:
a. They come from God.
b. God is perfect love.
c. God therefore loves them deeply and wants to bring them into his perfect life.
d. They exist to bring glory to God because from before time began, that's what God had purposed for them to do.
e. Bringing glory to God is the most fulfilling purpose for their life.
f. One day they will live in perfect relationship with Him and all of God's children in Heaven forever.

Without God there is no objective meaning or purpose for human existence.


The atheist believes he lives for no reason and no one.
More importantly, the Atheist lies to himself and says that he comes from no one and that no one loves him. Remember, emotions, intellect, actions, thoughts, whatever it is, it's all just chemicals fizzing for no clear or objective reason (according to the atheist). Therefore there is no such thing as love.

The Atheist fails to see that love is real and that it was love that brought him into existence.

"He who does not love does not know God, for God is love." 1 John 4:8

Anonymous, Creation Idiocy 44 Comments [9/1/2013 5:51:28 AM]
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Grimsoncrow

Your God has an awful way of showing his all-encompassing love, starting with the way He treated HIS son...

Plus: I must conclude jack shit merely because I'm an atheist.

9/1/2013 6:16:55 AM

anevilmeme

So you know nothing of atheism and have never actually talked with an atheist: check.

9/1/2013 6:53:30 AM

fishtank

Wrong.

Next.

9/1/2013 6:59:33 AM

Hasher

The point of the whole thing is to be the whole thing: Terry Pratchett

We're here to help each other through this thing, whatever it is : Kurt Vonnegut (Quoting his brother)

Seriously, I'm sure you've heard this before; if God created everything it merely raises the question of where God came from, if God is the reason and purpose of everything it merely raises the question of what is the reason and purpose of God.

9/1/2013 7:13:40 AM

Jonathon

As an atheist, I am free to make my own choices as to how I want to spend my life and what goals I want to set for myself. I don't have to use the framework that some bronze-age barbarians used to define who I am and what I ought to do.

9/1/2013 7:41:32 AM

Indicible

"Without God there is no objective meaning or purpose for human existence. "

So what?
You are your own reason for living. If you cannot accept it, you are simply codependent.

"The Atheist fails to see that love is real and that it was love that brought him into existence. "

Let me talk to you of a drop of sperm and an egg... Love has nothing to do with it.

9/1/2013 7:45:13 AM



"More importantly, the Atheist lies to himself and says that he comes from no one and that no one loves him."

I come from my parents. My family and friends love me. I love them. I'm ready to love anybody who doesn't just shun me away because of prejudice.

If you think you need a god to feel love, then I'm afraid you are the one with a serious problem.

9/1/2013 7:48:23 AM

Swimming With Crocoducks

I come from starstuff.
Which I daresay is pretty cool.

I was born without a special reason to live, born solely because of my parents' decision to have a second child.
But since I am a human being with thoughts and emotions of my own, since I have a conscience, a brain, I was able to do something wonderful:
I gave my life a meaning and a purpose.
I have goals for my life, a couple of things I really want to do.
And no God or other authority imposed those things on me.
I do what I do because I want to.

My life is what I make it.

That's not sad. That's wonderful.

Also, just because emotions are ultimately caused by chemical reactions doesn't mean that they don't exist.
That's like saying there's no such thing as being drunk, since ultimately the body's reaction to alcohol is just another chemical reaction.

I know love. I daresay I'm a very lucky person when it comes to that - I was born into a family that loves and supports me, I have a partner who loves me and whom I love.
Friends who love me and whom I love.
I love my cats. I love my hobbies.

Life is beautiful, and it is in no way less so just because I don't believe in a supernatural being that created us all.

End.

9/1/2013 8:02:51 AM

Ebon

Not this shit again!

9/1/2013 8:05:10 AM

Happy Atheist

I know that love is real, and we have purpose in life only if we give it to ourselves.

You say that just because love is just chemicals fizzing that it doesn't exist.

An apple is just an assortment of atoms, but it still exists.

Love is love, chemicals are just what it is made of.

My purpose in life is to find as much happiness as I can in my brief time here, and love is a huge part of that. You know nothing of me, or mine.

Stop generalising.

9/1/2013 8:30:59 AM

Swede

My mum and dad created me, I came from them. Why is it so scary for you to not have purpose for your existence? You can have purpose IN life, you know, like trying to make the world a better place than when you were born, trying to make life better for those around you.

If there really is a "single preeminent and divine being", how do you know that it's your version and not the Hindu version? Hinduism is the oldest of the religions that exist now, after all.

Love exists, stupid, whether it's chemicals or divine intervention. Love is to want the best for someone, to want to protect that someone from harm, to be all warm and tingly inside when you look at that someone. Love did indeed bring me into existence; the love between my mother and father.

9/1/2013 8:49:47 AM

UHM

1a) Well, I come from my home town, 1b) I'm pretty sure the people that raised me are my biological parents, so I come from them, 1c) Well, yes, 1d) Well, yes, 1e) No objective reason maybe, but there's a lot of subjective reasons to live.

"According to the atheist, your whole existence is just matter in motion. Your thoughts, emotions, and actions are just chemical reactions determined by a set of naturalistic factors." - Yes, but doesn't make it less real. Just as much as it doesn't make dawn or dusk less beautifull because we know that the sun is giant bowl of heated and reacting plasma, or that the colors are fabricated by by particles in the atmosphere reflecting light differently. If explanation can take the wonder from you, I'm sad or you.

"More importantly, the Atheist lies to himself and says that he comes from no one and that no one loves him."
What? I never met an atheist that said anything remotely like that. Atheists simply say that there is no magic man in the sky.

"Remember, emotions, intellect, actions, thoughts, whatever it is, it's all just chemicals fizzing for no clear or objective reason (according to the atheist). Therefore there is no such thing as love."
We can exaplain how a plane flies. Doesn't make the thing not fly... nor does it make the plane go poof! and disappear. And those chemicals as fizzing for a very objective reason: survival.

<"He who does not love does not know God, for God is love." 1 John 4:8>
Well great, I know god. Can'ya fuck off now?

9/1/2013 8:52:09 AM



God is perfect love.

God sends lying spirits to deceive the unbeliever and make damned certain they go to Hell to be tortured for all eternity just as God created them to do...

That... is not love in any way, shape or form...

9/1/2013 9:10:57 AM

fmitchell

One little existential crisis and these Christians start crying for their Sky Daddy. Grow up already.

9/1/2013 9:11:28 AM

Jason_the_Cripple

Here is a summation of this whole statement:

"My myth makes me feel good, so I'm going to believe my myth. I don't care what the truth is, I'm comforted by me myth."

9/1/2013 9:17:12 AM



THIS god? Seriously, "perfect love"? Ask those on the receiving end of what is listed below and see what they have to say.

http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm
http://www.evilbible.com/Rape.htm
http://www.evilbible.com/Slavery.htm
http://www.evilbible.com/Ritual_Human_Sacrifice.htm

Oh, yeah, and what about eternal torture in hell for those that don't believe? Death penalty for parking tickets sounds just and fair and loving....not.


9/1/2013 9:19:03 AM



THIS god? Seriously, "perfect love"? Ask those on the receiving end of what is listed below and see what they have to say.

http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm
http://www.evilbible.com/Rape.htm
http://www.evilbible.com/Slavery.htm
http://www.evilbible.com/Ritual_Human_Sacrifice.htm

Another moron that isn't an athiest telling everyone what atheists believe, think, know, and conclude.

9/1/2013 9:21:45 AM

The Crimson Ghost

I love the name of this website! I hope it's the real name.

9/1/2013 9:48:11 AM

GigaGuess

Okay, starting with your first list:
a.) No, I came from my Mother. Or the Foothills Hospital. Your pick.
b.) Again, my mother. It's not like I just crawled out from under a rock, in spite of what my ex might say.
c.) Nope. I'm going into the ground.
d.) Perhaps. So?
e.) Yes I do. My life is a reason to live in and of itself. That and the people around me. People who love and care about me. And I to them.

And the second one:
a.) That's nice...your point?
b.) Unless you're gay, female, Muslim, atheist, etc. etc. etc. For someone with unconditional love, there sure are a lot of conditions.
c.) Unless, again, the above.
d.) So God loves you, perfectly and divinely...but only as long as you suck his cock right. So no teeth. Again, this perfect love seems a lot less perfect the longer you keep talking.
e.) Really? Because I find devoting my entire existence to someone who can't even make his existence apparent pretty hollow.
f.) And they'll ride unicorns and have pillow fights and stay up past midnight...

9/1/2013 10:00:57 AM

Broton of Loch Ness

"Also, just because emotions are ultimately caused by chemical reactions doesn't mean that they don't exist."

The chemical reactions are certainly a part of the process... not the entirety of the process.

9/1/2013 10:17:01 AM

Noneofyourbusiness

Logical fallacy. The reality you find most pleasant is not necessarily true.

9/1/2013 10:17:45 AM

Papabear

"The Atheist fails to see that love is real and that it was love that brought him into existence."

Or was it two 16 year olds with an open liquor cabinet?

9/1/2013 10:53:27 AM

freako104

You never met an atheist have you? If you had your conclusions about atheism would not have been stated as you would know they are fail

9/1/2013 10:54:55 AM

Philbert McAdamia

Thank you for pointing out how and what I think. Damn, you're good!

9/1/2013 12:46:14 PM

Sasha

First explain why your god needs all this glory. Problems with self-esteem, is it?

9/1/2013 12:59:24 PM

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