[on the problem of gays having sex "in wedlock"]
Sure it would be a problem, since even gays admit that most are far from monogamous and the tax payers are then on the hook for all the special diseases they get from their open sexuality.
Then we would also have to support the polygamists, etc.. to ensure they can marry those they 'love' so that the non consenting adults are stick helping to pay for them all and their many children.
Think taxes are out of control now? just wait.
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Die-hard monogamist here, devaluing your point.
The question of polygamy is not on the table, but as you have brought up the fact that one your of main problems with the idea is 'their many children', just thought I'd highlight a certain other demographic notorious for its large quantities of children.
Think taxes are out of control now? just wait.
Actually, our taxes are at historical lows; and I'm getting fucking tired of you dipshits squawking about it.
WTF. She's describing herself as a non consenting adult because she doesn't agree with marriage equality.
I know fundies cant keep out of other peoples bedrooms but asking her for permission every time some couple wants to get it on might be taking it a bit far.
Besides the fact that taxes are at their lowest levels in damn near a century, there is no disease that exclusively affects gay people, and straight people are damn capable of screwing anything that moves.
Umm I think the fact that so many gay people WANT to get married (and many already are, just not legally!) should be enough proof that they are just as capable of monogamy as heterosexuals.
And how would allowing gays to get married somehow *increase* their supposed promiscuity and cause them to get more "special diseases" than they already do (not that they have "special diseases" at all, of course, but just trying to argue from this loon's perspective!)
Nice word sallad, dearie.
Are all straight people monogamous? If "yes", tell that to Newt Gingrich. Straight people get diseases too, ya know, and as straight people are so many more than gay people, they will burden the taxes much more than a few gays.
Polygamy? No no, it's marriage equality, not extension of marriage laws. Gay people can now marry their consenting adult significant other, but only one at a time, just like straight people can.
Why 'love'? That is the most evil and condesending thing in all this screed, I think.
We've had gender-neutral marriage laws for a couple of years, and registered partnership for about ten years before that. Our taxes are a bit out of control, yeah, but it has nothing to do with gay marriage, and much to do with our right-wing government selling out state-owned companies (that used to bring in lots of cash to the state every year) cheap to their buddies.
Firstly, which gays admit to being far from monogamous? As with all relationships some people have affairs and others have monogamous relationships and stay together until their deaths.
As for polygamy, it seems weird that in countries where polygamy is illegal having an affair is perfectly legal. We are a society that illegalises a man or a woman saying to two people, look I love you both and I would like us to be together’ and if all parties agree and it is consensual, why can’t they get married. Surely that’s better than one partner having an affair behind the back of another which is likely to end up with one partner being, hurt and humiliated. Personally, I wouldn’t want to share my wife with another man or woman and she feels the same way, but that shouldn’t mean others who want that sort of relationship couldn’t have it. The key here is as long as it is completely consensual and no one has been coerced. Just a hypothetical thought.
As to it leading to more children, I think there’s no evidence to support this, people with big families would tend to have them because they wanted them anyway. They tend to be the more religious and talk in terms of go forth and multiply’.
Oh and I forgot, the STD thing or 'special diseases' from gay people, I think I'm right in saying that of all the demographics, Lesbians are the group that are the least likely to get an STD. However Angel4Truth if you are concerned and not sure of your partner's sexual history then make sure you use a condom simples.
"Think taxes are out of control now? just wait."
Don't worry, the billionaries will still pay lower taxes in the US than in any other civilized country. Not that we're all that civilized with millions of your fellow teabaggers running around.
Sure it would be a problem, since even gays admit that most are far from monogamous
And you think that most heterosexuals are monogamous? There are a lot of sluts and a lot of male whores out there sleeping with anything and everything that moves. And yes, they're also at risk for STD's. And do you really think that all heterosexuals are virgins on their wedding day? I'm guessing they're a tiny minority. Not that there's anything wrong with it, but people like sex and it's not unusual for people to have more than one sex partner in their lifetime. Claiming that it's a special trait of gay people is being hypocritical.
Special diseases? Well, these weren't aimed at gays and lesbians:
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Think taxes are out of control now? Look and see what it was like back then.
Yes, I'll admit there's a good portion of the gay community that are far from monogamous. Guess what? There's a good chunk of STRAIGHT people that are far from monogamous. And aside from a select few...just HIV, I think...Herpes too, I guess, require any sort of long term treatment. Otherwise treatment is a couple shots at best. Are the flu shots breaking the bank?
By the way, thanks for admitting that you can't be bothered to care about our general health and wellbeing. How does being married affect health care anyways? Anywhere that it's government funded, it's funded whether we're married or not.
So your objection to gay marriage is ... taxes. (Based on ridiculous assumptions already skewered by others, BTW.)
Taxes. Right. Suuuure it is.
"even gays admit that most are far from monogamous"
"the tax payers are then on the hook for all the special diseases they get from their open sexuality"
"Then we would also have to support the polygamists, etc.. to ensure they can marry those they 'love'"
"so that the non consenting adults are stick helping to pay for them all and their many children."
"Think taxes are out of control now?"
Wow, everything in that post, including the user name, is a lie.
That’s kind of impressive.
Special diseases? Gay people can get diseases that no one else can get?? Wow, who knew...
So the argument is basically: same sex couples shouldn't wed because there's no guarantee they'll be monogamous. Like straight people have a great track record in this area... Also, think of the taxes! Won't somebody think of the taxes!?
The first sentence is a lie and the second one is called the slippery slope fallacy. Overall, your whole statement is bullshit.
Angel4Truth? More like AngelOfLies.
With the straight divorce rate averaging at 50%, I don't think heterosexual couples have a lot to brag about since I expect most of those divorces are caused by infidelity.
And no, I don't think taxes are out of control. Thanks for asking.
"the tax payers are then on the hook for all the special diseases they get from their open sexuality."
how's that you fucking moron?
"Then we would also have to support the polygamists, etc.. to ensure they can marry those they 'love' so that the non consenting adults are stick helping to pay for them all and their many children."
people can have children with more than one person, even if they aren't married, you fucking moron!
Angel, how long are you with your partner? My partner and I are together now for 41 years, btw. Oh, and we are gay. We were married a year ago in our home country.
I am happy to see that France has only another step to go before it joins the nations (and some US states) that act as though it were the 21st century. Best wishes to you and yours in the 17th.
Believe me, sweeping generalisations do no good to your cause.
Homosexuals are humans, A4T. They get all the same diseases heterosexuals get and heterosexuals get all the diseases homosexuals get.
I don't believe homosexuals are significantly more or less monogamous than heterosexuals.
Tax payers are on the hook for all the unwanted babies prodused by heterosexuals... unless some couple, gay or straight, adopts those babies.
I think YOU'RE out of control now.
Oh, yes, those "special diseases"... Would those be the ones that straight, religious, anti-contraceptive people do a significantly better job spreading?
Think taxes are out of control now? just wait.
Taxes are pretty much as low as they've ever been, guy. If they go much lower, you're going to have to start choosing which vital functions of the state you're willing to give up. I suppose that that's pretty much the aim of the conservative movement in this country, though.
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