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The testimony of a Jerusalemite mother who claims she subjected her children to abuse bordering on torture due to orders she received from a self-ordained rabbi was cleared for publication Sunday.

The testimony describes the behavior of some of "Rabbi" Elior Chen's followers and the mother's feelings regarding the abuse, which often included sadistic acts of violence.


She recounted an episode in which Chen's followers had given her 3-year old toddler liquor. "I remember he threw up a lot and I changed his clothes. I have never seen such a small child so drunk, and I just remember telling myself, 'Be strong, he's just trying to help him to be a good boy'," she said.

The followers, three men who have also been indicted, were said to have deprived the children of sleep, forcing them to stand all night, and of food, in addition to the liquor they made the children drink.


Allusions to the Holocaust are prevalent in the testimony, as in the mother's account of one of Chen's followers beating her child.

"He punched him and slapped him and pushed him," she said. "My child was just standing next to me and I started to think that this was how the Nazis behaved. I had never been in such a situation and didn't know how to react."

The mother said one of the indicted men, Avraham Kugman, would force feed her son. "It was like an educational lesson – you'll eat as much as I tell you to," she said.

Additional forms of torture inflicted upon the children included the searing of skin and confinement in a suitcase. "They tied (my child's) hands and feet together like a chicken, and stuffed a yarmulke in his mouth so he couldn't scream," she said.

Elior Chen and his followers, ynet 35 Comments [4/1/2013 3:19:41 PM]
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Atheism 2.0

I hope they give this fucker the death penalty.

4/1/2013 3:24:00 PM


When are we going to realize that men in religious positions of power should not be allowed near kids?

4/1/2013 3:48:49 PM


Good going, Mom. Not only have you allowed your home to be the setting for horrific violence toward your own children, you are complicit in the abuse because you shrugged off your parental instincts and permitted others to abuse them. Do you have no idea of what it's like to feel bonded to your children and protective of them?
Not only will your children very likely live in fear of your religion until they mature and can mercifully flee your home, your own relationship with them is going to suffer some serious damage. They know you were there, you saw what happened, and you did nothing to protect them.

4/1/2013 4:08:14 PM


'Be strong, he's just trying to help him to be a good boy'

lol ur stoopid.

4/1/2013 4:18:05 PM


Those little shits were probably disobedient brats. Kids today have no respect. The Bible mandates that thy mother and thy father be honored. They disobeyed God and the Bible mandates death for this. Elior Chen showed true mercy for allowing them to live.

However, they're all kikes, so they'll burn in Hell if they don't find Jesus.

4/1/2013 4:50:03 PM


Fundamentalism: Bad no matter what the religion.

4/1/2013 4:50:55 PM


Please tell me you're just a Poe/bad troll.

4/1/2013 5:25:55 PM

The fuck?

4/1/2013 5:30:01 PM


Just sickening. I can only hope this "rabbi" drops the soap in the prison showers.

4/1/2013 5:33:53 PM

Baked Goods

That is just evil. I feel very sorry for those poor children.

For permanently scarring those kids (and perhaps, others) these people deserve to be federally institutionalized for life, so they can spend the rest of their otherwise detrimental existence a little more productively; by turning large rocks into smaller ones.

The state should immediately take the custody of the children away from the "mother", and provide prolonged post-traumatic therapy for them. Otherwise, it is circumstances not unlike these that result in the Ted Bundys, Wayne Gacys and Jeffrey Dahmers of our world.

4/1/2013 5:39:55 PM

Mark Poe

... and this is why even if your God exists I would still not worship him.

4/1/2013 7:12:29 PM


Troll? Fuck off. I'm a true Jewish-Christian Buddhist. And we don't allow kikes in here. GTFO

4/1/2013 7:33:28 PM

Solipsism for Jesus

Some uneducated and crazy Jews. I thought Jews were at least less ignorant than Christians and didn't make crap up because of the incredibly formal Jew Structure (joining is like getting a black belt and then being a mafia member if your mom is a gentile, and the synagogues I know of generally teach like schools instead of slack like most churches) but I guess I was wrong.

4/1/2013 8:14:36 PM


This guy manages to be even worse than the Chen of Dota 2. I am impressed.

4/1/2013 9:18:45 PM

Wykked Wytch

@ProtestantCrusader - Cool story bro.

@Solipsism for Jesus - Jews are generally less fundie than Christians are. They also tend to be more politically and religiously liberal. These are fundamentalist Jews we're talking about here, and Jews who are strongly condemned by the rest of the community at that.

4/1/2013 9:27:17 PM

Homeschool Hero

So this mother let a "self-ordained" rabbi torture her children. First off, why didn't the term "self-ordained" give her a hint that maybe this guy wasn't really a true man of God, and may not have been a good person to let her children be around?

Second of all, THESE SCUMBAGS ARE TORTURING CHILDREN! Children are some of the most defenseless people on the planet, and nobody has any right to exert power over them in such a cruel and inhumane way. They say that they were helping the kids? BULL-FREAKIN'-CRAP! They are just a bunch of psychopaths with no sense of humanity. This whole article seriously reads like something out of a horror movie, and I simply cannot believe that there are actually people in this world that are that twisted.

Also, this is a little message to the mother in this article: You are watching these men beat and torture your children, and you think to yourself "Hmm... this seems like something the Nazi's would have done..."? Well then why didn't you take your kids and get them the hell away from those maniacs? You should have gotten the police involved the moment you noticed this sort of thing. Seriously... BE A FREAKIN' PARENT!

4/1/2013 10:38:26 PM


DAFUQ!? I'm opposed to the death penalty, but for that kind of cases I'd be willing to consider exceptions...

@Baked Goods: well, it happened in Israel, which isn't a federation, but I'm pretty sure they have jails anyway.

@ProtestantCrusader: why don't you go back under your bridge, you goat-molesting creature...?

4/1/2013 10:44:48 PM


There are no words.

4/1/2013 11:32:43 PM


All I can say is...


4/2/2013 12:43:49 AM

Pat Patterson

WHY would any mother let this happen? What the fuck do you mean, you "didn't know how to react"? The moment anyone lays a hand on my child like that, I break the fucker's hands.

4/2/2013 1:44:14 AM

Warren McIntosh

Doesn't matter what the authority is or where it comes from, people will always abuse it to make themselves feel better. This sadly isin't just a religous problem, its a human being problem.

4/2/2013 2:14:42 AM

Pule Thamex

It all sounds like the sort of tripe spawned by religious mind-wrecking techniques. One can almost detect the hand of a jealous witch doctor behind it all, or the machinations of a desperate wannabe tent commander.

4/2/2013 2:36:41 AM

Rob aka Mediancat

The mother gets a half point of credit from me for actually catching on, no matter how long it took.

Only a half point, though. "Rabbi" Chen is pure evil.

4/2/2013 5:34:57 AM

Mister Spak

This is your brain on religion. Not Chen, the mother of the child.

4/2/2013 5:37:51 AM

Doubting Thomas

I honestly feel sick after reading this. What kind of stupid mother allows anyone to do this to her own child? If anyone suggested depriving my children of sleep, making them drink liquor, or physically abusing them, I'd show them the door with my foot up their ass.

4/2/2013 5:56:07 AM

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