I wrote up a chapter on this for a book project. The core argument is so simple. But I have never seen it refuted.
When you strip gay marriage, indeed all ‘homosexual rights’ to the cote, it’s all based on a specific sex practice. So why not BDSM? Why not FOI? Why not Morris approved toe sucking?
Why just oral/anal/digital sex between same gender couples? I really want to see it argued.
It’s like the whole gay propaganda thing in media. I have said it and I am not the first or alone. Show the result of the two gay GQ bosybuilders in the commercial. Show one dead from aids. Show the Rosie O’Donnell lesbians having their fun on TV, not the Playboy centerfold type.
SHOVE IT IN PEOPLES FACE based on the reality. Then watch the polls. And the laws change.
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If you've never seen it refuted, Norm, you're not looking very hard. Lesbian and gay couples are attracted to each other not just for sex but because they love each other. Indeed, gay and lesbian couples who, because of illness, frailty or some other reason, do not have sex are more common than you might think. But they are still together because they love each other, and that's what makes them lesbian or gay. Now wrap that round your tiny mind, Norm.
The reality is there are average, everyday people who are gay, in fact, you probably know a few but just don't know they are gay. These are the ones (along with all homosexuals) who deserve the right to marry, not just the fantasy versions using supermodels.
Oh and as a man who has been married to the same woman for a quarter century, my wife and I both enjoy "oral/anal/digital sex"
**On a humorous note, does this mean sex for us is both anal og and digital ?
First off, gays don't automatically get AIDS just by being gay. It's caused by the HIV virus, which is transmissible through any sexual act. Gay men are not at a particularly high risk for the disease, not anymore at any rate. It's minority women that are at greatest risk, especially in areas where conservative values run rampant, limiting access to proper sex education and convenient access to cheap or free condoms.
Showing lesbians that look like Rosie O'Donnell is okay in my book, though. By all means, feature real couples, and show that they're ordinary people like any straight couple, flaws and all. People who support gay marriage aren't doing that because they sexually fetishize lesbians. Maybe PSAs featuring ordinary gay and lesbian couples is the reality check America needs.
"When you strip gay marriage, indeed all homosexual rights’ to the cote, it’s all based on a specific sex practice."
That would be like hetrosexual marriage then. Or did you marry your wife for the conversation?
What's interesting is, and this is going on (at best) second hand information, that some statistics showed that homosexuals engaged in anal intercourse no more than heterosexuals do. Not that this makes any difference to me as I couldn't care less either way. But I would be interested to know if that's true.
Also, "Why not Morris approved toe sucking?" ...
What the hell is that and why do I suddenly feel cheated ?
Edit: Never mind.
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Hm. Pretty sure there aren't people out to make it illegal for those who practice these sex acts to marry. No one's going to say, "You can't get married because you're a dirty toe sucker." By all means, they can go out and get married. Unless of course they want to marry a same sex partner, then it may not be legal. Sex acts and sexual orientation = two different things.
Being gay does not give you HIV or other STDs. These people keep bringing up the point of DISEASE, but when they talk about marriage for straights they claim it prevents disease. "If you wait until you're married to screw you won't ever get any STDs, so save yourself for marriage!" So how would legalizing same sex marriage increase the incidence of STDs? It's not as if gay people would stop having sex, ever. And promoting monogamy and educating people about homosexuality and normalizing it can only decrease rates of STDs.
And, really, if you're using the "argument" that "ugly" people shouldn't be allowed to marry I don't know what to say....
I wrote up a chapter on this for a book project. The core argument is so simple. But I have never seen it refuted.
When you strip straight marriage, indeed all heterosexual rights’ to the core, it’s all based on a specific sex practice. So why not BDSM? Why not FOI? Why not Morris approved toe sucking?
Why just vaginal/oral/anal/digital sex between alternate gender couples? I really want to see it argued.
It’s like the whole straight propaganda thing in media. I have said it and I am not the first or alone. Show the result of the two straight GQ models in the commercial. Show one dead from Hepatitis C. Show the Mike & Molly couples having their fun on TV, not the Playboy centerfold type.
SHOVE IT IN PEOPLES FACE based on the reality. Then watch the polls. And the laws change.
When you strip gay marriage, indeed all homosexual rights’ to the cote, it’s all based on a specific sex practice
No, it isn't. And what the fuck is FOI?
Show the Rosie O’Donnell lesbians having their fun on TV, not the Playboy centerfold type. ... Then watch the polls. And the laws change.
Show really fat, ugly heterosexual couples having sex and watch the polls and the laws concerning heterosexual marriage change.
Show a bunch of drunken rednecks fiddling around with their guns in their trailer home and watch the polls and the gun laws change.
Your point is moot.
Why not Morris approved toe sucking?
If it's good enough for the Duchess of York ...
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Norm... if any type of marriage can be stripped down to simply a sexual practice, you are opening ALL types of marriage to that.
So, unless you want to argue that hetrosexual marriage is only about penis/vagina sex, it'd be a good idea to STFU about now.
What is a "cote"? Do you mean core, perhaps?
There are already married couple who practice BDSM; you must know that, surely! Right?
What's FOI and Morris approved toe sucking?
Marriage is not really about what you do in the privacy of your bedroom, it's about sharing a life with a person you love and feel united with.
Read up on AIDS in Africa, asshole! Most people dying of AIDS there are heterosexuals.
WE DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHAT OTHERS DO IN THEIR BEDROOM, IT'S NONE OF OUR BUSINESS! In any case, people ARE already free to do whatever they want in the privacy of their own home, as long as everyone involved is adult and consenting. Marriage laws have no impact on that, whatsoever!
> Freedom Of Information sex? The mind boggles.
Why, that is an example of how governmental transparency improves people's lives. You file an application, and you'll find out exactly how your taxes are spent on improving the society. And reading all those reports and documents is very exciting. Oooh yeah...
Consenting adults. I am for the B/D/S/M one myself. And considering shoving it in people's faces, considering how homophobes are shooting everything they can and considering the amount of Christians who yell in people's faces about their being evil or what have you, it only seems to be karma hitting
Homsexuality is more than just sex, just as heterosexuality is.
I don't know what argument this moron is trying to make, but he seems to think revulsion at an act is grounds for banning it. And the AIDS thing is so tired.
The fulfillment of gay rights are on the horizon, Norm. Get used to it.
Here's what another Freeper has to say about this post:
"I was thinking about that while dozing off. Make cardboard cutouts, painted, of both sex homos practicing what makes them worthy of global appreciation and stick em in a liberals yard under cover of rain. Hopefully next to a school."
Is "dozing off" a newfangled euphemism for "masturbating"?
"I wrote up a chapter on this for a book project. The core argument is so simple. But I have never seen it refuted."
Because the readers were laughing so hard they couldn't hold a pen.
"SHOVE IT IN PEOPLES FACE based on the reality. Then watch the polls. And the laws change."
It's already happening. But not in the sense you mean.
Why not BDSM indeed? Nothing wrong with consensual BDSM, and why would anybody object to toe sucking?
And if you show ugly lesbians making out on TV you have to show the ugly straight people making out on TV.
"When you strip gay marriage, indeed all homosexual rights’ to the cote, it’s all based on a specific sex practice."
No it's not, no more than my 'traditional' marriage is based on a specific sex practice.
When you strip gay marriage, indeed all homosexual rights’ to the cote, it’s all based on a specific sex practice. So why not BDSM? Why not FOI? Why not Morris approved toe sucking?
I've read this sentence five times and I can't figure out what he's saying. Those sex acts are legal (now)...so...
But I would appreciate more gay sex on TV. Somehow I don't think this would have the effect Norm thinks.
By Morris they mean Dick Morris. He's a FOX news commentator who briefly worked for Clinton until he got caught sucking the toes of a prostitute and was fired. Then turned Republican (or maybe he already was?) and got a lucrative right wing pundit job. They're mad at him because he promised Mitt Romney would win the election in a landslide, lol.
I don't think Rosie would fit atop a TV, much less with her partner.
@Old Viking, around-the-clock accordion playing? What is this, the ninth circle of Hell?
People who engage in those various fetishes can already get married. Are you wondering why gay people don't indulge in those practices? Because some of them do, just like some heteros do.
No one's refuted your point so far because it's the muddled confusion of someone drooling on their sock and declaring that it is the answer to all the world's problems.
Fakkin' nutter.
"Show the Rosie O’Donnell lesbians having their fun on TV"
I love how she thinks it'll change people's mind about being tolerant when they see "ZOMG, you mean some of those lesbians are unattractive?! If I had known that I would have never voted to allow their marriage!!"
Listen, you're perverted in ways I'd rather not delve into.
Also, are you actually trying to get marriage of not so attractive people banned? Because that also includes heterosexuality. You're an idiot.
BDSM practitioners are allowed to marry, as far as I know.
It's the homosexual ATTRACTION that is the core thing. People who fall in love with people of their own gender are allowed to marry now. They aren't required to have any form of sex whatsoever.
What reality? Rosie O'Donnell is a celebrity.
The reality is that people sometimes fall in love with people of the same gender, and, as long as both are consenting adults, ought to be allowed to marry each other.
The laws have changed,and people are more pro marriage equality than they were in 2013, silly.
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