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I am currently reading Mein Kampf. I wondered why Hitler is held up as the ultimate evil. I personally have good reason to hate him since he exterminated most of my family. But this doesn't explain why people who have no such connection hate him. A far as being a murderer goes, Stalin ties Hitler and Mao far exceeds him, yet neither is nearly so hated. Mein Kampf makes it clear why Hitler was so hated, it is because he told the truth about Liberalism (which he called Marxism) and he told the truth about international bankers. Hitler was the last significant force in the West to oppose Liberalism, and this is why he is so hated. Of course Hitler had many flaws. One was his lack of humanity which allowed him to be a mass murderer, but others were worse. His other major flaw was his racism. But in this he is tied by every Jew who defines a Jew as one who has Jewish mother. So Hitler was no more racist than most Jews are. In many ways Hitler was much like an Orthodox rabbi, struggling to save his race from Liberalism while ignoring the fate of people of other races. I now see the Holocaust as a far greater tragedy than I did before, the biggest tragedy not being those who died, but rather the tragedy being that if Hitler had allied with conservative Jews, he would have won the war and saved Western civilization from the death spiral of Liberalism, and the tragedy is that Hitler's racism prevented this from happening.

fschmidt, Love-shy.com 51 Comments [12/8/2012 5:37:02 AM]
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D Laurier

Yes fschmidt... Like an orthodox rabbi, Hitler believed in an imaginary "race".

And like you, he blamed others for his own shortcomings.


12/8/2012 5:51:30 AM

Felix Wilde

What the fucking shit?

What is this I don't even

Marxism != Liberalism. You have clearly never heard an authoritarian Marxist dismiss anti-authoritarian ideas as "bourgeois liberal thought" as I have.

Part of the reason Hitler is more reviled than Stalin is simply that we were allied with Stalin at that point in history. It may also be a factor that Stalin wasn't blatantly racist and psychopathic in his motives, but co-opted more acceptable ideas of equality and unity. Both of them were entirely hypocritical in regard to their proclaimed ideals and motives, doing whatever served themselves best and ignoring their "principles" whenever convenient.

I guess at least fschmidt admits he's a fascist and that Hitler wasn't a left-wing socialist.

12/8/2012 6:16:01 AM

LAchlan

Just concentrate on not getting laid, dude.

12/8/2012 6:17:47 AM



I be currently readin Mein Kampf. I wondered why Hitla is held up as tha illest evil. I personally have phat reason ta don't give a fuck bout his ass since he exterminizzled most of mah family. But dis don't explain why gangstas whoz ass have no such connection don't give a fuck bout his muthafuckin ass fo' realz. A far as bein a murderer goes, Stalin tizzles Hitla n' Mao far exceedz him, yet neither is nearly so hated. Y'all KNOW dat shit, muthafucka! Mein Kampf makes it clear why Hitla was so hated, it aint nuthin but cuz he busted some lyrics ta tha truth bout Liberalizzle (which he called Marxism) n' he busted some lyrics ta tha truth bout internationistic bankers yo. Hitla was tha last significant force up in tha Westside ta oppose Liberalism, n' dis is why he is so hated. Y'all KNOW dat shit, muthafucka! Of course Hitla had nuff flaws. One was his fuckin lack of humanitizzle which allowed his ass ta be a mass murderer yo, but others was worse yo. His other major flaw was his bangin racizzle. But up in dis he is tied by every last muthafuckin Jew whoz ass defines a Jew as one whoz ass has Jewish mutha. Right back up in yo muthafuckin ass. So Hitla was no mo' racist than most Jews are. In nuff ways Hitla was much like a Orthodox rabbi, strugglin ta save his bangin race from Liberalizzle while ignorin tha fate of gangstaz of other races. I now peep tha Holocaust as a gangbangin' far pimped outa tragedy than I did before, tha freshest tragedy not bein em whoz ass took a dirt nap yo, but rather tha tragedy bein dat if Hitla had allied wit conservatizzle Jews, he would have won tha war n' saved Westsideside civilization from tha dirtnap spiral of Liberalism, n' tha tragedy is dat Hitlerz racizzle prevented dis from happening.

12/8/2012 6:27:38 AM

commienazilibrul

Well, we all knew that fschmidt was a misogynistic piece of shit. Now it turns out that he admires Hitler as well.

Honestly, why aren't more women sucking his cock right now?

12/8/2012 6:46:27 AM

Ebon

Why Hitler is regarded as worse than other mass murderers is an interesting question. Personally, I think it was probably because of the inhuman industrialisation of the mass murder. At least you don't pull the usual winger bullshit of claiming that Hitler was on the left.
There's also the fact that Stalin and Mao's atrocities were largely confined to their own people whereas Hitler's happened in virtually every country the Nazis occupied.

As for the rest: First off, Marxism and liberalism are entirely different things.
Secondly, Hitler isn't hated because he "opposed liberalism" but because he was responsible for the murder of around eleven million people.
Thirdly, Stalin and Mao are also hated. Why they don't instantly come to mind when people are asked about evil is an interesting question and one could discuss that withoput needing to bring up bullshit involving some global liberal conspiracy (like you could get enough liberals to agree on anything for that to happen).

12/8/2012 6:53:50 AM

Doubting Thomas

OK, so will right-wingers finally stop claiming that Hitler was a leftist liberal now?

12/8/2012 7:09:08 AM

UHM

Please change your name to Smith, the rest of us ethnic Germans don't want people to think you're one of us.

12/8/2012 7:14:59 AM

Mayhem

Wow. The fundies have begun to stop claiming that Hitler was an atheist and are now using him to compare to other tyrants to show that a Christian tyrant isn't as bad as a non-Christian one.

12/8/2012 8:10:06 AM

Alencon

How is it they always miss the point that "Liberalism" is what enabled civilization to arise out of the muck.

Virtual all of history has consisted of Liberalism trying to inch forward and Conservativism fighting them every inch of the way.

If things had been left up to conservatives Nog would never have been allowed to bring that fire thing into the cave.

12/8/2012 8:37:41 AM

Filin De Blanc

"The Holocaust is tragic not because people died, but because it stopped people who believe like I do from running the world."

Go fuck yourself you sniveling piece of excrement.

12/8/2012 8:41:24 AM

Fang

Why is Hitler worse? I'm not sure anyone has said that. However, I could look at the horrors of the Holocaust, the world war, but let's also note that Mr. fschmidt is an example. Hitler helped create a philosophy of racism that we're still working to stamp out today. Thus, Mr. fschmidt fully embodies one reason people may well think he is worse.

12/8/2012 8:56:49 AM

Fundies Make Me Sick

First, Hitler was much more racist than the average Jew. Second, the fact you now feel sympathy for that piece of stool because you hate Liberalism is so disgusting.

12/8/2012 8:57:56 AM

Hasan Prishtina

"Stalin ties Hitler and Mao far exceeds him, yet neither is nearly so hated."

Try getting away with that in Eastern Europe, where are large number of people were killed by the followers of both.

"So Hitler was no more racist than most Jews are."

Well, fschmidt, in three posts from you I've learnt that Jews don't study the Bible, that child support is evil although it is a basic point in Jewish law and that Orthodox rabbis are comparable to Hitler. Forgive me, but I don't know any rabbis whose idea of their job is: 1. to be racist douchebags; 2. to save their congregation from Liberalism; 3. to invade other's countries and take all their land; 4. to systematically turn the populations of said lands into slaves; 5. to bring about an equivalence between marry Jews in shul and getting Jews to form a minyan to the Nuremburg Laws; and 6. to wipe out their personal bugbears, homosexuals and the disabled on an industrial scale while making them pay for the privilege. Oh, I forgot; Jews are racist because they overwhelmingly voted for Obama. Twice.

12/8/2012 9:03:55 AM

Hasan Prishtina

Hitler didn't ally with conservative Jews because he was an antisemite. You might like to check out the 1920 NSDAP talk he gave entitled "Why We Are Antisemites." That means he wanted Jews dead. All of them. And what if he had allied with conservative Jews (where they lived, whether they were rich or poor, what language they spoke etc. is apparently immaterial)? There is absolutely no evidence he would have won the war. Most conservative Jews in Europe, who mostly lived in Poland and Russia, supported the Germans in World War I as they liberated millions of Jews from the hated Tsarist regime. Look where that got Germany.

So, we've now learned that the Jews are racist, rich and powerful beyond the dreams of Gentiles because they have secret and magical powers that can win wars for mass-murderers facing the assembled wealth and might of the democracies and the numbers of the Soviet Union. I'm now just waiting for you to bring up blood libel.

12/8/2012 9:05:30 AM

Flah

At least this one is actually admitting that Hitler and the Nazis were actually right-wing.

12/8/2012 9:06:35 AM

Hasan Prishtina

The "salvation of Western civilization" is a consistent theme of Nazi propaganda, becoming particularly strong after D-Day as the Nazis became increasingly desperate. You know what? What they were saving Western civilization against was /the Jews/ - "Jewish Bolshevism" in the East, "Jewish Capitalism" in the West, "Jewish" modern art and jazz music. Hitler's racism didn't stop him co-operating with the Jews to save Western civilization; his intent to "save Western civilization" was a function of his racism, one of his chief reasons for exterminating the Jews.

Western civilization saved Europe from Nazism and if you believe it was the other way around, it is hard to think of you as anything other than a Nazi. In fact, fschmidt, you are worse than a mere Holocaust denier; you are the kind of antisemite who makes Israel Shamir look like Elie Wiesel.

12/8/2012 9:06:52 AM

Hasan Prishtina

Which Orthodox rabbi, D Laurier? My understanding is that you can't convert to a "race" but you can only be born into one and I can't think of a single rabbi, Orthodox or otherwise, who says that people becoming Jews by conversion have never existed; do you have a citation?

12/8/2012 9:08:23 AM

LDM

And you can't get laid? Imagine that.

12/8/2012 9:18:34 AM

Reynardine

Another Jewish Nazi. How pathetic!

12/8/2012 9:50:08 AM

fishtank

*hands twitch*

please... come to Germany... we have ways of dealing with you.

12/8/2012 9:51:52 AM

Frank

"Of course Hitler had many flaws. One was his lack of humanity which allowed him to be a mass murderer, but others were worse"

That's true. Just look at that ridiculous moustache he had. I mean grow a proper one or just shave it off.

12/8/2012 9:57:08 AM

Mister Spak

"it is because he told the truth about Liberalism (which he called Marxism) and he told the truth about international bankers."

Are you admitting Hitler was a conservative?

P.S. he also hated jews, which was another name for liberals.

12/8/2012 10:41:07 AM

Draken

I am currently reading Mein Kampf.

Good luck with that. Tell us if you made it past page 10.
It's a most boring, endlessly thick piece of junk.

12/8/2012 10:59:03 AM

xyz

Wait, are you trying to excuse Hitler for what he did? There was nothing positive about him. Everything he said was bullshit. Including the retarded conspiracy "theory" about "international Jewish bankers".

12/8/2012 11:58:12 AM
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