Quote# 85076

Don't wear pants in the presence of the Pope

We defend that women should not wear pants. We sustain that women dressing as men is against Natural Law and Catholic Morals.

But if it were acceptable for women to commonly wear trousers, it would never be the case to do so in the presence of the Pope. The impropriety increases when the lady is the Chancellor of Germany and is receiving the Sovereign Pontiff, himself a German, on an official visit to the country.

However, this is what Chancellor Angela Merkel chose to do.

An educated woman like Merkel could not be unaware that there is a rigorous protocol on how ladies should dress before the Pope. So, one is led to wonder whether she - who is Protestant and the daughter of a Lutheran pastor - chose this apparel on purpose to scorn the Catholic Church and the Pope. In any circumstance, even if she did not do it to scorn the Pope, this is certainly an example not to be followed.

Don't wear pants, but especially if you will be before the Pope.

Elaine M Jordan, Tradition In Action 112 Comments [12/5/2011 3:40:15 AM]
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We defend that women should not wear pants.
... naughty.

12/5/2011 3:42:29 AM


hhahahah givin him the attention he deserves

12/5/2011 3:51:14 AM

Tracer Bullet

That's ok. She probably thought the dress Ratinger was wearing was enough for both.

12/5/2011 3:55:02 AM


So, women should go commando when they meet the pope?

As much as I respect Angela Merkel, the thought of her going commando is just very very disturbing and wrong.

12/5/2011 4:01:22 AM


That's strange, most times I've seen her on TV, she has been wearing a skirt.

What is this rigorous protocol, and why does it concern non-Catholics?
Sure, out of common curtesy I would not wear shorts and bare sholders in front of the Pope, but I would also not wear a mini-skirt.

Jesus, a man as far as I know, is often portrayed as wearing a robe, which is more like a dress than a pair of pants. The Pope, a man, also wears a kind of robe.
I.e. women wearing pants means women are not dressing as men.

12/5/2011 4:01:31 AM


Hi. This is the 21st century calling. Please join the rest of us.

12/5/2011 4:16:49 AM

Argle Bargle

Don't wear pants in the presence of the Pope.

I'll be sure to heed that advice should I ever find myself in the presence of His Holiness.

EDIT: Also, don't put tiling backgrounds on websites.

12/5/2011 4:36:16 AM


While I generally find women sexier in skirts and dresses, there is nothing, not a damn thing, wrong with a woman in pants.

12/5/2011 4:37:46 AM


I should hope the Pope has other things to worry about. Besides, this IS the 21st century.

12/5/2011 4:42:08 AM

Percy Q. Shunn

I would like to think the pope would be more concerned about his church condoning child molestation. Hell, I would think you should be concerned about that as well.

12/5/2011 4:49:50 AM

Big Jilm

I'm all for women dropping their pants, but only under the condition that they want to :)

12/5/2011 4:53:15 AM


As a German, I am slightly worried by someone telling my Head of Government to not wear pants when talking to the Pope, a fellow German; however, since I respect neither the Pope nor Merkel, it is real just slight worry ;)

12/5/2011 5:27:56 AM


Well, the pope decided to wear a dress before meeting with a Head of Government, why shouldn't Merkel be allowed to wear trousers?

12/5/2011 5:45:48 AM


"A woman shall not wear anything that pertains to a man, nor shall a man put on a woman's garment; for whoever does these things is an abomination to the LORD your God." (Deut 22:5).

I'm pretty sure that's what she's referring to.

However, I can't find the passage in the Bible that mentions pants as a specifically male item of clothing.

Until now I thought this crap was reserved for Southern Baptist and Fly-Over-State fundies. Live and learn.

12/5/2011 5:46:28 AM

D Laurier

Women should where whatever they dammed well please....

The pope is just another cult leader, deserving no special protocol beyond a luggage check at the airport to make sure he isn't smuggling kiddyporn

12/5/2011 6:02:47 AM

Pretty rich from a man in a dress.

12/5/2011 6:08:27 AM


And I suppose that if a different religious leader visited, she should have worn a burka?
A political leader is AT LEAST an equal to a religious leader, and look, even the pope seems to have figured this out!

12/5/2011 6:16:51 AM


I never really understood this need to assign a specific gender to a particular item of clothing. It's all unnatural to begin with. Sort of seems arbitrary to me.
In any case, wtf?

12/5/2011 6:19:28 AM

Mister Spak

"Don't wear pants, but especially if you will be before the Pope."

Yes, we know about catholic clerics and their desire to remove pants.

12/5/2011 6:25:21 AM

rubber chicken

Because you never know when the pope might need sudden access to your genitals.

12/5/2011 6:28:18 AM


On with yer kilts, lads, we're off to see the pope!

12/5/2011 6:55:35 AM

Huckster Sam

I'd like to vote this is the best fundie quote for out of context mining.

12/5/2011 7:01:03 AM

Brendan Rizzo

There are protocols on how one should dress before the Pope, that are more specific than they are for receiving any other influential head of state? I think Ms. Jordan pulled them out of her ass.

So the Catholic Church evidently condemns women wearing pants, but does not condemn the Pope, who is always a man, wearing what is very clearly a dress? Me confused.

12/5/2011 7:01:47 AM

Doubting Thomas

Yeah because the pope doesn't want to be the only one wearing a dress.

Sorry, but the pope was visiting Germany. When in Rome, do what the Romans do. When in Germany, do what the Germans do. There's no reason the chancellor of Germany should have to put on a dress because the Pope is coming for a visit.

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