If evolution exists then all of our DNA, human AND animal AND plant DNA would be coiled in an identical direction. It isn't. My sister was studying biochemistry at University at the time told me of this anomaly.
I have never been able to accept evolution since, but I still had to repeat what I'd been taught in biology class to pass my exam.
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You're right. It's just an illusion, a lie maintained by all scientists working in the field of biology, so they can collect fat research grants paid for with your tax dollars while laughing all the way to the bank.
Or maybe I've got them confused with televangelists.
Um... If you look at anything coiled from one side (top or bottom) it'll be clockwise. From the other side, it'll be counterclockwise.
Either you just made that up, or your sister is fucking with you.
Wait, I thought RR was made up of American fundies. Why is a user there using the British term anti-clockwise instead of the American equivalent counterclockwise? Not that it matters to me, but American fundies tend to hate anything not like them.
" human DNA is coiled in a helix in a CLOCKWISE manner
And somehow, human DNA is 97.5% identical with chimp DNA.
" My sister was studying biochemistry at University at the time told me of this anomaly. "
No, she tried to explain evolution to you, but you couldn't understand a bit of it, and she said your thinking was all screwy, and you got that sentence mixed up with one about DNA.
Or maybe your sister at university is actually in 2nd grade and so far ahead of you in science that you think she's in university.
Maybe his sister was actually trying to tell him DNA doesn't coil the way it's usually shown in drawings. (And he heard whatever suited him.) There is one interesting little factoid there:
That is completely false. I'm studying biology right now and never once heard that claim asserted. (And yes, we have gotten to the point in the curriculum about DNA.)
I think, therefore, that this factoid was pulled directly out of your ass.
DNA can coil either way, and probably does so in every animal and plant on Earth.
The normal representation of DNA, the familiar "double helix", is the so called B-DNA form. It forms a right-handed spiral with a major and minor grove running round it's 'surface'. These grooves, principally the major one, are what allow enzymes to bind to the DNA strand.
There is also a second right-handed form of DNA, called A-DNA. This is more compact than B-DNA and also more hydrophobic, which may mean it has a role in the folding/packing of DNA into chromosomes.
Finally there is Z-DNA, which turns you into an shambling, brain-hungry member of the undead which has a left -handed spiral structure, unlike A- and B-DNA. Z-DNA regions appear to be somehow associated with transcription, and it has been suggested that they allow the DNA strand to unwind a little to promote the binding of a transcriptase.
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"I was taught evolution in school but one thing they don't teach is that human DNA is coiled in a helix in a CLOCKWISE manner
Typical fundie reasoning. Something is different, therefore humans = created by God!
Doesn't matter if what they're arguing is actually based on facts or not.
I was taught evolution in school but
I was taught that humans can't live without a brain.
Having read the above, I have to reconsider.
And certain species of ferns have far more chromosomes than we humans. So I guess that means we're actually inferior to plants, amirite?!
Now go breed some goats near some coloured/spotted poles, as your Holy Writ says that the offspring of this breeding near such will result in them being identical to said poles, colour/patterning-wise. That Nobel Prize awaits! [/hyper-sarcasm]
Moral: I suspect that you'll get to see Charles Darwin in heaven.
...oh yes, that's right, you won't. Via a little something called the 9th Commandment, coupled with Revelation 21:8, means that - in the words of Hudson (in "Aliens"): 'You're on an express elevator to Hell: going DOWN !' >:D
Blah blah blah, full of shit, now explain me how we can breed OGM organism with humanized genome to produce humanized ARN / hormones / full organs ?
Such organisms are not speculations. It's facts.
You see this is the kind of evidence that would prove humans aren't related to or evolved from any animal on Earth. A fundamental difference in our biology that can't be explained by current evolutionary biology. Except that no such thing exists. I don't know if you were lied to and you accepted it or if you're lying yourself, but human DNA is no different in structure from the DNA of every organism on the planet.
Auratwilight just made the same mistake as Mudak
ALL DNA is both CLOCKWISE and ANTI-CLOCKWISE. Notice shit inverts depending on which angle you look at it?
Helices don't change handedness because you look at them from different ends! Go and have a look at the nearest telephone handset cable...
Alternatively, think about it this way. If you have a right-hand threaded nut and a right-hand threaded bolt of the same size the nut will screw onto the bolt whichever way round you hold it. Rotating the nut 180 degrees doesn't give it a left-handed thread.
Well at least they're admitting the existence of DNA. I remember a quote from one of them saying something to the effect of, "DNA is dexoyribonucleic acid. If our bodies were filled with acid, we'd just dissolve."
@Headache
Shut the fuck up. I'm an American, and I teach biology at a natural history museum/zoo. It is a matter of PERSONAL pride to me that I neither avoid nor pussy-foot around the subject of evolution, as it is the founding tenet on which all of biology rests. You bet your ass I object when a tiny minority tries to purge our textbooks! Your blithe bigotry towards all Americans, a vast and diverse group of people, shows just how arrogant and small-minded you are. You're no better than a racist that takes credit for the accomplishments of others in their race.
My public education in the subject of evolution was more 'politically correct' than I would have liked, but nonetheless it was thorough. While it's true that 60% of Americans do not believe in evolution, you would do well to remember the 40% of us that do. Don't you dare try to bully Americans just to make yourself feel smarter, you nationalist prick. I won't have it.
@J. James
To be fair Headache said "average", which generally means over 50%. So if 60% don't believe in it then that would be average.
That said as much as I don't like living in the american south I have to say not ALL of us are stupid. The stupider the louder is generally the rule, the smart ones of us just hide in shame at the association with them.
Though Headache is still an ass for the way he said it, no matter if it is true or not.
@ J.James: Kudos to you. I attended a public Southern school in the early '70's. We studied evolution. My parents studied evolution. My daughter studied evolution at a private school. If one wants to believe the Genesis story be my guest. Just do it in Sunday school. I've yet to hear of any public school around these parts (N.C.) not teaching evolution. Many children have been removed from school because it's not taught from a biblical perspective. That's their choice. I would protest if 'biblical reasoning'(oxymoron) was required in our public schools.
Sometimes hate trumps reason when it comes to us Americans. Like I give a rat's ass what somebody such as Headache thinks about my country. I have my plate full arguing with the nit-wit Americans that try and trample the rights of the rest of us.
@elphada
That's interesting, where I'm from the more common response is to homeschool(read: brainwash) your kids rather than send them to Jesus School. Homeschooling is the absolute worst, in my opinion. The kids that are indoctrinated in private religious schools are, in my experience, way more capable of adjusting to society than homeschooled kids. They have a sort of practiced ignorance and disintrest about evolution, biology, the sciences, and even just socializing.
The bar needs to be seriously raised for homeschooling, or it needs to be gotten rid of altogether.
@Quantum Mechanic
'one thing they don't teach'
"There's a reason for that."
Least of all Evolution in the Bible Belt states?:
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Because it hasn't happened there yet.
I suspect this guy played Mass Effect, heard about chirality making certain species incompatible, and proceeded to completely misunderstand it and somehow applied that to human evolution.
That, or he's batshit insane.
I was taught evolution in school but one thing they don't teach is that human DNA is coiled in a helix in a CLOCKWISE manner
You know, if you don't understand genetics, you probably shouldn't pontificate about them at length.
If evolution exists then all of our DNA, human AND animal AND plant DNA would be coiled in an identical direction. It isn't. My sister was studying biochemistry at University at the time told me of this anomaly.
Are you sure your sister told you this? Are you sure it wasn't nobody?
I have never been able to accept evolution since, but I still had to repeat what I'd been taught in biology class to pass my exam.
You were exposed to science. Horrors. Oh, you poor thing, you.
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