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#1350075
Old Viking
And a frog in a blender. What the hell kind of organization is that, huh?
11/18/2011 3:36:35 PM
#1350077
aaa
You clearly don't understand just how much energy is required. In case you didn't know, there is this nuclear reaction going on that you might have seen that might have something to do with this.
11/18/2011 3:41:50 PM
#1350081
Skatepunk
Evolution and thermodynamics are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS!
@ Anon-e-moose
Who's the lady in the bikini? :)
11/18/2011 3:48:14 PM
#1350085
chaosof99
I think people here on FSTDT are misunderstanding the guy a little bit. I don't think that the organization of the war efforts in the US as a response to Pearl Harbor is a valid response, since his objection is that the energy released by the Japanese in Pearl harbor was used to destroy battleships, rather than build battleships.
However, that's still a stupid argument. It's like saying that because if you set fire to a gas can it will explode and burn the things around it into cinders, gasoline powered combustion engines can't exist. There's a difference between releasing energy in an unguided manner, and fueling energy into a process.
Of course I don't think the guy has any clue what the 2nd law of thermodynamics says, much less comprehend the difference between global and local entropy.
11/18/2011 4:02:55 PM
#1350090
Zimmer
It should be a crime to be this stupid.
@ Skatepunk
It's Natsuki Kuga.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uLOWJ9Xaps
11/18/2011 4:13:42 PM
#1350091
Ppenguinator
This is a Poe. Nobody is stupid enough to use this argument seriously.
[sticks fingers in ears and repeats "I'm not listening"]
11/18/2011 4:19:22 PM
#1350099
HeadacheMy head! It hurts after reading this nonsense!
11/18/2011 4:44:29 PM
#1350106
LelielUm, could we run that by the translator before we put up a quote?
All I see is this:
11/18/2011 6:10:15 PM
#1350110
Alencon
Oh boy. The ignorance, it hurts.
11/18/2011 6:59:09 PM
#1350115
John
But the fact of the matter is, is that this is not true. The Japanese added lots of energy to Pearl Harbor in 1941, and did not organize any thing.
The 2nd law doesn't say anything about "organizing". It just says there is no process for which the sole result is a transfer of heat from a body of a lower temperature to one of a higher temperature. The only thing the SLOT forbids is a perpetual motion machine.
11/18/2011 7:45:20 PM
#1350117
emau99
Evolutionists assume that adding energy (open system) will overcome the 2nd law of thermodynamics.
"Evolutionists" assume nothing of the sort. The phenomenon that you describe is a demonstrable fact.
But the fact of the matter is, is that this is not true.
Yes, it most certainly is true. In fact, this is the principle on which your refrigerator works.
The Japanese added lots of energy to Pearl Harbor in 1941, and did not organize any thing.
Are you fucking kidding me?
11/18/2011 7:54:36 PM
#1350118
Wehpudicabok
Yeah, well, creationism violates the fourteen-and-a-halfth law of thermonucleotyrannasourics! That has more syllables, therefore I win.
On the off-chance that someone actually reads this who is under the same delusion as the OP, the second law only applies to closed systems, and says nothing whatsoever about open ones. The argument is a bit analogous to this:
"You spelled 'center' wrong. It ends in '-er', not '-re.' "
"I'm British. We have different spelling rules."
"Just because you're from another country doesn't mean you can just change the way words are spelled!"
11/18/2011 8:14:49 PM
#1350121
myheadhurts
You like drinking water? You'll love water boarding.
Ignoring the torture of 2nd law and evolution:
Small packets of energy, little different than delivering a fucking huge wallop.
11/18/2011 9:03:49 PM
#1350136
Reynardine
Wuttt?
11/18/2011 10:48:01 PM
#1350158
Raised by Horses
Bananas are made of coffee therefore jackalope? Got it.
11/19/2011 12:42:33 AM
#1350182
Haseen
Since you're unfamiliar with degrees of strength, how about I give you a gentle massage by hitting you with a meteor?
11/19/2011 2:32:15 AM
#1350189
Thrutch
By this logic weeds cannot grow and thrive because they use light to grow, organise and set seed.
Or perhaps Clingman fails at thermodynamics
11/19/2011 4:50:10 AM
#1350194
Mrs. Antichrist
Facepalmed so hard I broke my wrist.
11/19/2011 5:57:46 AM
#1350251
Papabear
The fact that my punching you in your stomach makes you barf does not disprove the 2nd law of thermodynamics. The addition of energy to your belly makes your lunch less organized but that is within a much larger system. We could do the test though, if you'd like.
11/19/2011 9:58:30 AM
#1350264
Apples and oranges for free today.
11/19/2011 10:21:02 AM
#1350288
You know parroting a convicted felon doesnt give you credibility.
11/19/2011 11:35:22 AM
#1350297
Anon-e-moose
@Greater Good
"Others have said it, but I gotta repeat:
Before Pearl Harbor, America was still slowly gearing up to help Britain fight Germany.
Afterwards, we're building warships in a couple of days and the employment rate skyrockets.2
As per Sir Laurence Olivier, the narrator of the TV documentary series "The World At War": post-Japan's surrender, American troops went home to the only country to emerge out of WWII in
profit; it had more oil/coal than it could burn, more steel & other metals than it could manufacture with, more ships, planes, tanks, guns & ammunition than it could use (thus the creation of the US Armed Forces as we know it today),
and more food than it could eat & more money than it could spend.
Indeed, the US had manpower almost in surplus, to the extent that employers were virtually fighting with each other to recruit now
ex-military men to their workforces (certainly to accomodate the vast expansion industrially, commercially & financially).
The US also had secrets to keep them busy for decades to come; and not just refinements & replacements to their exising atomic bombs: captured Luftwaffe Messerschmitt Me-262s to reverse-engineer, to give their upcoming planes jet engines. Captured V-1s to reverse-engineer (I've seen photos of American versions, 'JB-2s'), which ultimately evolved into the Cruise Missiles we know today. Captured V-2 rockets, to say nothing of the ultimate prize: ex-Nazi rocket scientist Wehrner von Braun - without his engine designs, the Mercury, nay, Apollo missions, thus Armstrong's 'One Small Step For Man' would never have happened.
In Japan attacking Pearl Harbour, did they not only organise, but re-
created the US beyond all recognition, ultimately making it the only superpower today.
And along with Hiroshima & Nagasaki then, has Cling(to delusion)man's argument now, been completely vapourised.
Skatepunk
"@ Anon-e-moose
Who's the lady in the bikini? :) "
She's Natsuki Kuga, from the anime series "My-HiME":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natsuki_Kuga
A lethal shot, and even controls a mecha wolf with huge flank cannons.
11/19/2011 12:39:16 PM
#1350330
whatever
A few years ago, I watched the film Tora Tora Tora. I'd say quite a lot of organising went into that.
11/19/2011 2:57:17 PM
#1350337
David B.
@chaosof99, the misunderstanding (at least on my part) is deliberate. He's using equivocation in his argument, so I am using it in my answer.
Do as you would be done by and all that. ;-)
11/19/2011 3:28:45 PM
#1350347
Professor Smartypants
And this, dear children, is what is generally known as the argument from physics fail.
11/19/2011 4:33:23 PM
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