Quote# 80733

[In response to a post that says: "I guess a little more hand-holding is in order. When the soft tissue fossilizes, it gets replaced by minerals."]

here...let me help you...... scientists refer to a "fossil" as the preserved remains of a creature (usually thought to be ancient) that has been dug up. the word fossil, in Latin actually means "dug up." it has nothing to do with its mineralized state. a fossil CAN be mineralized (or not) but a fossil is just a dead animal that was dug up. now stop trying to teach me things -- it's not working. you don't have the chops.

supersport, CARM 69 Comments [4/20/2011 7:24:02 AM]
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Return of the Supersport! Living exemplar of the Dunning-Krueger effect! Biggest black hole of stupidity in the Western Hemisphere!

We've missed him.

4/20/2011 7:40:18 AM

Jack Bauer

OK, Superspurt, so 'fossil' is derived from Latin for 'obtained by digging' - so what? Most fossils ARE obtained by digging. The etymology of the term implies nothing else and therefore there is no valid implication in regard to the minerlaisation or otherwise of what has been dug up.

However, the term 'fossil' has a specific useage which refers to those artefacts created by mineralisation of formerly living material. Otherwise you could validly refer to a potato as a fossil.

As to your last comment - *sigh* oh, it's not worth the effort.

4/20/2011 7:41:02 AM

breakerslion

"Ignoramus" is all the Latin you need, supersport.

4/20/2011 7:45:05 AM

DevilsChaplain

supersport...so the legends of the stupidest person alive are true...

4/20/2011 7:47:55 AM

Brendan Rizzo

Etymological fallacy. The fact that no non-mineralized fossils have been mentioned proves his point invalid. So what if there are non-fossilized bodies in bogs and stuff? That doesn't change the fact that all the fossils from prehistoric times are mineralized.

4/20/2011 8:04:49 AM

shadkat6

So if I dug up my dog from the backyard, I'd automatically have a fossil? Well, hot damn, 'scuse me while I contact the Natural History Museum. I'm sure they'll be very impressed.

4/20/2011 8:05:38 AM

Mad_Jester

<i>now stop trying to teach me things -- it's not working.</i>

Clearly. I don't think cluebats come in a large enough size to pound an education into that solid-titanium skull of yours.

4/20/2011 8:05:40 AM

Papabear

The root of "fossil" is essentially irrelevent when one knows what the current meaning is.

As for trying to teach you things, I'm sure most persons with more than a room temperature IQ have stopped long ago.

4/20/2011 8:09:25 AM

dionysus

the word fossil, in Latin actually means "dug up."

Yeah, and pedophilia actually translates to "brotherly love of children" so by your logic teachers, coaches, and day care workers are all pedophiles. However, etymology doesn't dictate how words are actually used and definitions change all the damn time.

4/20/2011 8:10:38 AM

Raised by Horses

A word's definition has no bearing on objective rea-

...it's Supersport. Never mind.

4/20/2011 8:12:21 AM

The Jamo

"now stop trying to teach me things -- it's not working."

Hahaha... yeah, ain't that the truth.

4/20/2011 8:28:15 AM

Osiris

Here supersport, that cliff is dangerous, let me hold your hand so you don't idiotically jump off it.

Oh. Too late.

4/20/2011 8:29:21 AM

Mister Spak

"now stop trying to teach me things -- it's not working."

We already know it's impossible to teach you things. Your brain is a mineralised fossil.

4/20/2011 8:36:33 AM

Horsefeathers

"the word fossil, in Latin actually means 'dug up.'"

You're aware that scientists have more precise meanings for words than their normal literal meaning, right?

"it has nothing to do with its mineralized state."

Actually, that's exactly what it has to do with. I'm sure even you are aware that archeologists don't call pottery fragments dug out of the ground "fossils."

"now stop trying to teach me things -- it's not working. you don't have the chops."

Nor do you have the brains, thus making it futile all the way around.

4/20/2011 8:43:02 AM

Doubting Thomas

Stop trying to teach things -- it's not working. Mainly because people like supersport want to be willfully ignorant.

Actually, in scientific terms, a fossil is a part of an animal or human in which all the organic material was replaced by minerals, a process which takes quite a bit of time to complete.

And I want to know why is it, if fundies think that it doesn't take very long for this mineralization to occur, that most fossils are of animals that have only existed long, long ago and are currently extinct?

4/20/2011 8:52:22 AM

Doctor Whom

now stop trying to teach me things -- it's not working.

"More Honest than You Intended to Be" award?

4/20/2011 9:02:43 AM

Sisyphus

It would be easier to teach a capuchin monkey calculus than to teach Supersport... well, anything really.

4/20/2011 9:13:47 AM

Bobby

"now stop trying to teach me things -- it's not working."

Lalala--Can't hear you--lalala

4/20/2011 9:26:26 AM

Darkevilme.

Of course they don't have the chops, getting any actual knowledge into that empty armoured cranium of yours would require power tools like the kind you see them use to get into bank vaults in the movies.

4/20/2011 9:31:28 AM

PiGirl13

"now stop trying to teach me things -- it's not working. I don't have the chops."

Fixed.

4/20/2011 9:33:31 AM

emau99

now stop trying to teach me things -- it's not working. you don't have the chops.

Indeed, there are very few people that are capable of teaching supersport anything. Just ask him.

4/20/2011 9:35:10 AM



Fossilised means something different to fossil. It is called soft tissue because that's what is was when the organism was alive. It's not soft anymore. Because it has been fossilised, ie turned to stone. This is pretty simple, supersport. I wonder if you have the chops to learn? Also, a fossil needn't be an organism's remains. They can be burrows, tracks, faeces. And you needn't dig up trace fossils. I can nip down the road to a large limestone headland and see trace fossils right there on the surface.

4/20/2011 9:35:49 AM

ThinkingManNeil

And you don't have even the merest scintilla of a working intellect, Supersport

4/20/2011 9:44:54 AM

Godbuster

Teaching you things REALLY isn't working!

4/20/2011 10:01:27 AM

Berny

The reason teaching you anything is pointless, Stuporspurt, is that you are dumber than a bag of coprolite.

4/20/2011 10:15:43 AM

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