The World Should Change Because I Say It Should

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The Discovery Channel MUST broadcast to the world their commitment to save the planet and to do the following IMMEDIATELY:
1. The Discovery Channel and it's affiliate channels MUST have daily television programs at prime time slots based on Daniel Quinn's "My Ishmael" pages 207-212 where solutions to save the planet would be done in the same way as the Industrial Revolution was done, by people building on each other's inventive ideas. Focus must be given on how people can live WITHOUT giving birth to more filthy human children since those new additions continue pollution and are pollution. A game show format contest would be in order. Perhaps also forums of leading scientists who understand and agree with the Malthus-Darwin science and the problem of human overpopulation. Do both. Do all until something WORKS and the natural world starts improving and human civilization building STOPS and is reversed! MAKE IT INTERESTING SO PEOPLE WATCH AND APPLY SOLUTIONS!!!!

2. All programs on Discovery Health-TLC must stop encouraging the birth of any more parasitic human infants and the false heroics behind those actions. In those programs' places, programs encouraging human sterilization and infertility must be pushed. All former pro-birth programs must now push in the direction of stopping human birth, not encouraging it.

3. All programs promoting War and the technology behind those must cease. There is no sense in advertising weapons of mass-destruction anymore. Instead, talk about ways to disassemble civilization and concentrate the message in finding SOLUTIONS to solving global military mechanized conflict. Again, solutions solutions instead of just repeating the same old wars with newer weapons. Also, keep out the fraudulent peace movements. They are liars and fakes and had no real intention of ending the wars. ALL OF THEM ARE FAKE! On one hand, they claim they want the wars to end, on the other, they are demanding the human population increase. World War II had 2 Billion humans and after that war, the people decided that tripling the population would assure peace. WTF??? STUPIDITY! MORE HUMANS EQUALS MORE WAR!

4. Civilization must be exposed for the filth it is. That, and all its disgusting religious-cultural roots and greed. Broadcast this message until the pollution in the planet is reversed and the human population goes down! This is your obligation. If you think it isn't, then get hell off the planet! Breathe Oil! It is the moral obligation of everyone living otherwise what good are they??

5. Immigration: Programs must be developed to find solutions to stopping ALL immigration pollution and the anchor baby filth that follows that. Find solutions to stopping it. Call for people in the world to develop solutions to stop it completely and permanently. Find solutions FOR these countries so they stop sending their breeding populations to the US and the world to seek jobs and therefore breed more unwanted pollution babies. FIND SOLUTIONS FOR THEM TO STOP THEIR HUMAN GROWTH AND THE EXPORTATION OF THAT DISGUSTING FILTH! (The first world is feeding the population growth of the Third World and those human families are going to where the food is! They must stop procreating new humans looking for nonexistant jobs!)

6. Find solutions for Global Warming, Automotive pollution, International Trade, factory pollution, and the whole blasted human economy. Find ways so that people don't build more housing pollution which destroys the environment to make way for more human filth! Find solutions so that people stop breeding as well as stopping using Oil in order to REVERSE Global warming and the destruction of the planet!

7. Develop shows that mention the Malthusian sciences about how food production leads to the overpopulation of the Human race. Talk about Evolution. Talk about Malthus and Darwin until it sinks into the stupid people's brains until they get it!!

8. Saving the Planet means saving what's left of the non-human Wildlife by decreasing the Human population. That means stopping the human race from breeding any more disgusting human babies! You're the media, you can reach enough people. It's your resposibility because you reach so many minds!!!

9. Develop shows that will correct and dismantle the dangerous US world economy. Find solutions for their disasterous Ponzi-Casino economy before they take the world to another nuclear war.

10. Stop all shows glorifying human birthing on all your channels and on TLC. Stop Future Weapons shows or replace the dialogue condemning the people behind these developments so that the shows become exposes rather than advertisements of Arms sales and development!

11. You're also going to find solutions for unemployment and housing. All these unemployed people makes me think the US is headed toward more war.

Humans are the most destructive, filthy, pollutive creatures around and are wrecking what's left of the planet with their false morals and breeding culture.

For every human born, ACRES of wildlife forests must be turned into farmland in order to feed that new addition over the course of 60 to 100 YEARS of that new human's lifespan! THIS IS AT THE EXPENSE OF THE FOREST CREATURES!!!! All human procreation and farming must cease!

It is the responsiblity of everyone to preserve the planet they live on by not breeding any more children who will continue their filthy practices. Children represent FUTURE catastrophic pollution whereas their parents are current pollution. NO MORE BABIES! Population growth is a real crisis. Even one child born in the US will use 30 to a thousand times more resources than a Third World child. It's like a couple are having 30 babies even though it's just one! If the US goes in this direction maybe other countries will too!

Also, war must be halted. Not because it's morally wrong, but because of the catastrophic environmental damage modern weapons cause to other creatures. FIND SOLUTIONS JUST LIKE THE BOOK SAYS! Humans are supposed to be inventive. INVENT, DAMN YOU!!

The world needs TV shows that DEVELOP solutions to the problems that humans are causing, not stupify the people into destroying the world. Not encouraging them to breed more environmentally harmful humans.

Saving the environment and the remaning species diversity of the planet is now your mindset. Nothing is more important than saving them. The Lions, Tigers, Giraffes, Elephants, Froggies, Turtles, Apes, Raccoons, Beetles, Ants, Sharks, Bears, and, of course, the Squirrels.

The humans? The planet does not need humans.

You MUST KNOW the human population is behind all the pollution and problems in the world, and YET you encourage the exact opposite instead of discouraging human growth and procreation. Surely you MUST ALREADY KNOW this!

I want Discovery Communications to broadcast on their channels to the world their new program lineup and I want proof they are doing so. I want the new shows started by asking the public for inventive solution ideas to save the planet and the remaining wildlife on it.

These are the demands and sayings of Lee.

James J. Lee, 113 Comments [9/2/2010 9:19:11 AM]
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but it looks like fundie (cap)

9/2/2010 9:21:32 AM


For reference, this is the jack ass who thought invading the Discovery Channel building and taking hostages was a good way to get this done.

9/2/2010 9:24:25 AM


The guy was a fucktard. Also I did get unnerved also by the fact it was in Montgomery County (I grew up in Rockville) and that area is generally low crime and safe. So it was kind of hard to believe such an act could happen there. He also missed the point of the book he read

9/2/2010 9:24:49 AM


Not going to lie, I think most these are reasonable ideas expressed hysterically. It's expecting the Discovery Channel to impliment them that's the insane part.

Are they going to resolve global overpopulation between episodes of Ghost Lab?

9/2/2010 9:25:11 AM


Hey! I have an idea that might solve all your problems!

Oh.... looks like someone at the Montgomery County Police department beat me to it...

(Sorry, I know its not that cool to make fun of the dead, but when i read his rant about depopulating the planet all I could think of was the Ghandi quote "You must be the change you want to see in the world". So far so good eh Lee?)

9/2/2010 9:25:43 AM


>>The guy was a fucktard. Also I did get unnerved also by the fact it was in Montgomery County (I grew up in Rockville) and that area is generally low crime and safe. So it was kind of hard to believe such an act could happen there.

Crime is not a matter of if but when, even violent crime sadly

9/2/2010 9:29:38 AM


You committed an act of terrorism, and people still...

Instead, they brushed you off as a raving nutjob despite having a few somewhat reasonable ideas.

And rightfully so. Psychopathy 4 Mother Earth is no better than Lying 4 Jeebus.

9/2/2010 9:31:10 AM

Shanya Almafeta

So, we've got a heaping helping of ELF human-extinction lunacy, some racist anti-immigration screed, promoting libertarian-style economics, and the sort of extreme antitheism that you normally only find in a kid who's just discovered what theism is. And with the references to "Malthusian Sciences", do I detect a hint of Objectivism, too?

I'd say it had to be a poe if he hadn't held a gun to a kid's head...

Still, a hearty helping of "WTF."

9/2/2010 9:37:13 AM

Cid Highwind

That guy even made it to the news in Austria (after he was shot), but his whole rant wasn't published. His demands are... interesting, to stay polite...

9/2/2010 9:37:35 AM


Don't hold back man! Tell us how you really feel.

9/2/2010 9:43:34 AM

@Shanya Almafeta
Since when did ELF support human extinction?

Reminds me more of the Unabomber, only he was a little more articulate. This guy sounds like a raving schizophrenic.

9/2/2010 9:44:05 AM


Well, I agree that drastic measures need to be taken if we are to actually save the Earth, and I think that some of the ideas behind these are valid (i.e. "stop encouraging the birth of any more ... human infants and the false heroics behind those actions."), but I live in the real world and don't expect these things to actually happen, and so I keep my mouth shut. Even if I did talk about what I think needs to be done, I wouldn't say it in such a violent, misanthropic way. I agree that people need to stop having so many kids, but if I would never call children "filthy parasites". That's a terrible thing to say, especially about a child. You're making it sound like it's THEIR fault that they're being born, and being raised to use a ton more resources than they need. Having legally been a child up until half a year ago (today is actually my half-birthday), I feel rather offended that you think of me and other children as "filthy parasites".

9/2/2010 9:45:30 AM

TB Tabby

Sorry, I can't take your manifesto seriously if you're going to use the word "froggies."

9/2/2010 9:48:04 AM

the old firm

Misanthropy as it's finest. And full of fail. ("parasitic humans" for example.)

Pro-Tip: When you think, babies are disgusting, you are part of a problem, not part of a solution.

Damn! I read it all and now I got a headache.

9/2/2010 9:48:30 AM


What the fudge?

9/2/2010 9:49:27 AM


Not going to lie, I think most these are reasonable ideas expressed hysterically. It's expecting the Discovery Channel to impliment them that's the insane part.

Are they going to resolve global overpopulation between episodes of Ghost Lab?

9/2/2010 9:52:13 AM


Well, I'm all for a non-capitalistic Ian Banks Culture-type world.I do care that the environment is being destroyed. I also sometimes entertain the idea of voluntary human extinction when I'm feeling misanthropic. Mr. Lee is needing some Valium though.

Edit: You know, somehow I keep having the sneaking suspicion that this person is faking.

9/2/2010 9:53:35 AM


Not going to lie, I think most these are reasonable ideas expressed hysterically. It's expecting the Discovery Channel to impliment them that's the insane part.

Are they going to resolve global overpopulation between episodes of Ghost Lab?

9/2/2010 9:57:44 AM

Shanya Almafeta

@1201596: I was pretty sure that the ELF and the like were antinatalists?

9/2/2010 9:58:55 AM


Pretty hysterical but I wouldn't really call this guy a fundie. Fundie implies some dogmatic conformity to some organized system that discourages free thought, while this guy is just going off on his own incoherent rant loosely influenced by primitivism.

9/2/2010 10:02:37 AM


What I'd say about Mr. Lee's ideas:

The basic premise is reasonable...but he cranks it up to unreasonable...crazy turned up to Warp Factor 50!

Yes, humans use a lot of resources & there's too many people...I'd say people should adopt, have 1-2 kids, not have any and/ or get "fixed"...This guy says NO MORE BIRTHS & babies are filth (used diapers notwithstanding).
Then he tosses in Racism, Selfishness, Ayn Rand stuff, Might Is Right, over-the-top misanthropy & all around stupidity.

As for me, radical change is best done through moderate means...this goes for dealing with any issue. Idealism must be paired with Realism & the ROOT of the issue must be addressed.

9/2/2010 10:03:35 AM


For those of you who think this nut job has some nuggets of truth inside the lunacy, please note that one of the biggest problem that will be facing the world by the end of this century will be UNDER population. Birth rates are already slowing dramatically as socio/economic forces are changing the way we lead our lives. People have fewer children and even more importantly they are having them later in life...spacing out the generations.

By the year 2050 we will be begging Mexicans to come to the U.S. and work.

PS - Lady Renae whats up with all the editorials at the top of posts???

9/2/2010 10:05:09 AM


@Shanya Almafeta

Being against the overabundance of childbirth doesn't necessarily mean you want the human population to go extinct. Wanting to fight overpopulation is reason enough.

9/2/2010 10:06:33 AM


In that case you should do your part and drink the Kool-Aid.

9/2/2010 10:12:25 AM

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