Quote# 73649

["Andy Schlafly, would you do me the honor of explaining why the Bible is the most logical book written?"]

God created the world, and then man. Man incurred the ultimate offense against God, and that required the ultimate sacrifice to redeem it. God intervenes with miracles from time to time as He likes. This is completely logical. Now everyone has free will to reject this and conjure up any alternative theory they like, but Christianity is the most logical religion and the Bible is the most logical book.

As an example of the illogical view of atheists, they deny the existence of Hell. If anything is logical, it is justice, and Hell is essential to that.

Andy Schlafly, Conservapedia 156 Comments [6/16/2010 8:36:32 AM]
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Atheists don't believe in Hell but they do believe criminals should go to prison. Sometimes until the criminal dies.

6/16/2010 8:38:51 AM

The Watcher

So, it's logical because it is? That doesn't even come close to answering the question.

6/16/2010 8:39:14 AM

Doctor Whom

Fundy Word Redefinition Project:

logical, adj. conforming to what I want to believe. Etymology: adjective form of logic, Old High Assflyese for "bullshit."

6/16/2010 8:43:54 AM

Saladin

So, how is this irrefutable, flawless logic? Hey, Shitfly, how does it feel to have a 'wiki' that's the laughing stock of the Internet? How does it feel to pretend that your little blog is a fair-and-balanced Wikipedia? How does it feel to realize that you've either banned or driven away anyone who isn't a sniveling sycophant with no personal point of view?

6/16/2010 8:45:21 AM

Reckoner

God created a perfect world, then allowed humans to utterly destroy it by eat a piece of fruit that He tempted them with. To fix all of this He had to sacrifice Himself to Himself to change the rules that He created.

Perfectly logical!

6/16/2010 8:47:39 AM

Arctic Knight

I read his response to the question several times, and I still don't see an answer in there anywhere.

6/16/2010 8:53:37 AM

Kristine

@Arctic Knight: Well, that's obviously because you are a god-hating, pagan, atheist muslim.

6/16/2010 8:55:35 AM

JohnTheAtheist

Do you understand what logical means, Andy? How can you be so smart and yet so stupid, seriously, how the fuck is that possible?

Evidence of hell, or STFU.

God I just reread this and it is amazing how full of fail it is. Nothing makes sense.

6/16/2010 8:56:58 AM

Mookie Blaylock

Um... there's no logic present in his argument. Saying that your line of thought is logical does not make it so. Assuming that your reasoning is logical does not make it so.

6/16/2010 9:15:23 AM

GigaGuess

Eternal torture for any transgression, varying from wearing at your parents to murder to simple disbelief.

Yes, how very just.

6/16/2010 9:16:16 AM

TGRwulf

And that answers the question how?

Wait, are you basically saying the bible is logical because it exists? Than that would make you logical, which as we all know isn't true.

6/16/2010 9:17:21 AM

John_in_Oz

Must overcome scruples against mocking mentally challenged.
Must keep making fun of Andy.
Cannot let post like his go unlaughed at!

6/16/2010 9:17:35 AM

Wozza

I refuse to believe that anyone can be so blindingly stupid. I think Andy's just a lying peice of shit who makes up stuff he knows is wrong, like the quote above, just to get attention. Its a sign of cripplingly low self-esteem Andy, and unfortunatley seeking attention from others or belittling them to make yourself feel special and worthwhile just doesn't work in the long run. You know you're living a lie, so your self-esteem just gets lower and lower.

If you want self-esteem Andy, do estemable things that you can be genuinely proud of. As a minimum, stop talking nonsense on the internet, stop hating others, and get a good therapist.

6/16/2010 9:20:05 AM

Mr Blur


6/16/2010 9:20:46 AM


Captain Janeway

10 The bible is true because it says it is.
20 GOTO 10

6/16/2010 9:26:30 AM

Doubting Thomas

OK, you've explained your beliefs, but you haven't explained why they are logical. You're saying that God is logical because he exists, and he exists because it's logical for him to exist. I think you don't understand the definition of the word "logic."

6/16/2010 9:28:13 AM

JSS

God created the world, and then man. Man incurred the ultimate offense by stealing apples, an offense God known was to be committed even before man was created. Nevertheless God is outraged over the fact that his creation with free will has actually decided to exercise that free will. He blames the entire human race for one man's mistake and decides he abhors them, and that they deserve eternal fire because apparantly finite sins are worthy of infinite punishment. Because the freewill God has given us has altered our thinking as well, we all deserve eternal torture for basically existing. This deity spends a significant period of time conducting mass murders, many of which involve the gruesome slaughter of babies and children. Finally, he demands a sacrifice of brutal, drawn-out torture in return for forgiveness. We also find out this deity expects his people to freely forgive. Although this deity has developed somewhat of a forgiving spirit, we learn that he plans on coming back to conduct one more worldwide "Columbine", another massacre of his people as revenge because he loves them so much. Later he'll select which ones will be thrown into the Lake o' Fire out of his glorious love.

Makes sense.

6/16/2010 9:29:00 AM



1. Why create a creature that can decide you don't exist when all you're looking for in them is both acknowledgement that you do exist and their unwavering love for you?

2. If Jesus really did redeem all our sins, why do you people keep saying that we're going to Hell?

3. If God still has to intervene, doesn't that imply that it's an imperfect creation, thus implying that if the creator couldn't create something perfect then they themselves are imperfect?

I'll stick with my pagan gods, thank you. At least they generally don't get upset if a person isn't worshipping them and most of us don't take our mythology literally.

6/16/2010 9:29:21 AM

Neserit

Just because you say "logical" a lot of times in your explanation doesn't make it anymore true than if I said "I have wings growing out of my back" repeatedly.

6/16/2010 9:38:22 AM



Well, wouldn't be more logical to make them total puppets so the whole process wouldn't have to happen?. Just a thought.

6/16/2010 9:45:48 AM

Rumpshaker Slim

How many times did Phyllis drop Andy on his head as a baby?

6/16/2010 9:49:17 AM

Mudak

I'm just staring at that last bit and I'm trying to figure out how hell is essential to justice.

If you go to hell, regardless of your infraction in life, you're there for all eternity in the face of pain, suffering and, well, damnation, right? Haven't we learned that justice generally is commensurate with the crime? If I steal a pack of gum from a candy store, my punishment wouldn't be as great as it would be if I go on a massive killing spree, would it?

How is one-size-fits-all punishment anywhere near justice?

6/16/2010 9:51:14 AM

Kristine

@Mudak: "How is one-size-fits-all punishment anywhere near justice?"

It is justice because there is no arbitrary classification of crimes into worse and less worse ones.

Possibly.

6/16/2010 9:58:35 AM

Misty

So... it's logical cuz God wrote it?

Now if only you could prove that God exists, I'd ask your God what kind of dope he was on when he created logic.

6/16/2010 9:59:27 AM

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