@ Caretaker
"I know this isn't the best way to enter into a debate, but I really have to point out that you're repeating 'banging [gay men]' a lot. Seriously, try and be a little more oblique; this apparent fixation is kind of creepy. 'Sleeps with', for example, is less homophobic-sounding."
Hm. You're asking me for more variety in the expressions I use to represent gay sex, and I'm the one with a fixation?
"Meanwhile, your pedantic view of these politicians' histories isn't a reasonable argument. You claim that as Craig was against gay marriage, he's not a hypocrite for sleeping with a gay man. But y'see, a quick google would have informed you that Craig wasn't just against gay marriage;
Craig voted against cloture in 2002, which would have extended the federal definition of hate crimes to cover sexual orientation. This legislation was passed in 2007 in both the House and the Senate as the Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2007."
Um, and? You basically just said, an apple isn't a pear, it's a banana. In no way does voting against an extension of the extremely ridiculous legal concept of "illegal hate crimes" (hate is an emotion, therefore a hate crime is essentially a thought crime) contradict committing homosexual acts. For example I am a white person; am I a hypocrite because I do not support the legal recognition of "hate crimes" towards white people? No. I'm just sensible.
"And check out this page to see how he tried to lie about his guilt; he was innocent, of course! And then it blandly points out that audio was released of him bitterly claiming that it was entrapment - not a misunderstanding or outright fraud, entrapment. Perhaps you should look up the definition of the term."
Fine, a politician lied. Ya got me there. How terrible for a politician to lie like that.
"He's politically come out against homosexuality (excuse the pun) several times in his career, only to be caught in a homosexual act himself, which he then openly lied about and used campaign funds to pay the legal costs of. If you can't see the hypocrisy of that, of using his votes to try and obstruct constitutional rights to a minority which he, in fact, secretly belonged to, then you're being willfully ignorant, and nobody here can help you with that."
Obstruct constitutional rights...? Do tell. I'm also quite certain that he wasn't "against homosexuality." That's like being against blondes.
"I don't care what part of the political spectrum you're in - I'm not even in the US, incidentally - but deliberately overlooking the obvious and thus remaining in denial about the very definition of 'hypocrisy' is pretty damned stupid."
I've never been to the US. I don't even know who any of these people are, I'm a troll that's very good at playing devil's advocate.
"I truly don't believe you when you say "none of the homosexuals I know", because from your conduct here, I can't envisage any openly gay men or women speaking to you on the matter of gay rights. You won't even address liberals properly - Leftist? What next, 'pinko'? Your extreme lack of respect in merely your casual language signals that you have, at the very least, latent prejudice towards people different from you. At most, I detect a faint whiff of homophobia...""
Well thank you for that giant list of baseless assumptions, it's really significant to me. Firstly, there is nothing incorrect about the term "Leftist." Second, well, when you live where I do you would have to refrain from ever leaving home if you don't want to socialise with homosexuals, and I have at least a dozen familiar friends who are of the variety. But it's also a very classy society and the majority is very moderate. You are right, though, that I have an extreme lack of respect for things I don't like, so I'm glad you caught on to that. If had homophobia I would certainly not be able to openly discuss homosexuality, I'd be too afraid; I have arachnophobia, for example, and to even talk about spiders makes me tremble a little. Not so about homos. Gays, gays, gays, gays, gays, big ole fudgepackin' gays. Nope, nothing.
"Hey, we all know Ted Haggard was a homophobe, don't we? Gee, whatever happened to him...?"
Um.. I don't know. According to Wikipedia he got married and had a boat-load of kids.