Quote# 67381

You ask..
Would Jesus send you to hell for not accepting him?
The answer is no.
You send yourself to hell by not accepting him.Now let me explain.Each and every person is born into sin.This has been so since the fall of man in the garden of Eden.The wages of sin is death.This was not the original plan of God for man to die.
God sends his prophets to guide the people in days of old.They were given God's law to abide by.However sin prevailed and the people of old died in their sins.

Lucinda, RR 46 Comments [11/12/2009 10:04:44 AM]
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out of the ooze

The correct use of word salad should always include spaces after periods!

11/12/2009 10:11:16 AM

k4jun

Well, that about clears it up. God can't change his plans himself. So what was the point of prayer, then?

11/12/2009 10:14:49 AM

BobsOldSocks

"Would Jesus send you to hell for not accepting him?
The answer is no."

...because jesus and hell do not exist.

"Each and every person is born into sin."

No. Sin does not exist.

"This has been so since the fall of man in the garden of Eden."

No. the "fall" did not happen and eden did not exist.

"The wages of sin is death."

As are the wages of virtue. Oh, and sin does not exist.

"This was not the original plan of God for man to die. "

God does not exist.

"God sends his prophets to guide the people in days of old."

You mean, raving loonies spout laughable bullshit.

"They were given God's law to abide by.However sin prevailed and the people of old died in their sins."

God and sin do not exist. You're mental.

11/12/2009 10:17:23 AM

Lucilius

Since it's up to me, I'll send myself to Florida for not believing in Jesus. Or is that for not believing in Thor?

11/12/2009 10:29:09 AM

Doctor Whom

That isn't even Biblical. Both the OT and the NT say that God creates wicked people to damn them. If I'm mistaken, then what about people who never hear the Gospel?

11/12/2009 10:30:02 AM

Caustic Gnostic

Each and every person is born into sin.

Proof, please.

No, Saul of Tarsus is not a credible source.

11/12/2009 10:43:47 AM

Mister Spak

You send yourself to hell for not obeying Allah.

11/12/2009 10:49:24 AM

werewolf

Wow, Lucinda, you just acknowledged that human beings have free will independent of your god. How very liberal of you!.

11/12/2009 11:04:41 AM

M.M.

You send yourself to hell by not accepting him.

So, basically, the answer is yes.

11/12/2009 11:30:09 AM

AuraTwilight

"God doesn't PUNISH you, he just refuses to help you avoid eternal damnation if you don't kiss his ass."

Yea, he's totally blameless, there. Oh, and God CREATED Hell, and is the one who put the metaphysical laws in place mandating that non-believers go to Hell. He's guilty either way, dumbass.

11/12/2009 11:32:01 AM

aaa

I love the inanity of this argument. It's fucking hilarious.

11/12/2009 11:53:54 AM

John

So if I say "give me your wallet or I'll stab you" and you say "no", then you really stabbed yourself by refusing to give me your wallet.

I wonder if that defense would work outside the bizarre world of Christian theology?

11/12/2009 11:58:39 AM

David B.

"Would Jesus send you to hell for not accepting him? The answer is no."

Revelation 20:15 and Matthew 25:41 say otherwise.

11/12/2009 11:58:49 AM

El Zorro

The "you send yourself to hell" is one of the more stupid arguments by fundies. I can't believe the actually think this is a good one; it's so defunct on so many levels.

11/12/2009 12:01:09 PM

notevenwrong

I think I'd rather go to hell anyway - hell is the one with hookers and blackjack, right?

Or maybe it's a typo, and you're actually talking about Hull...

11/12/2009 12:15:11 PM

Old Viking

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Infinite torture for a finite transgression. And this is the entity you love.

11/12/2009 12:30:59 PM



If God didn't it want it this way, then why doesn't he just change it?

11/12/2009 12:41:11 PM

Sulis

*sigh*
*facepalm*

11/12/2009 12:43:33 PM

Doubting Thomas

OK, first of all, any good lawyer could get you out of hell. I'm not one, but here's how I'd present my lawsuit against God:

Your honor, first of all I cannot be held responsible for the crimes of other people, especially ones committed some 6000 years or more before I was born. Secondly, I never entered into a contract with the defendant which forces me to either be his subordinate or be sent to eternal torment. There is no contract with my signature on it, nor can the defendant produce one. Furthermore the terms set up by such contract require close communication with his son and business partner, one Jesus H. Christ, who has never contacted me in any way. The only form of communication was in written form 2000 years ago, which Mr. Christ cannot claim was written directly to me. He made claims that he would return and the end of the world would occur in the lifetimes of his followers, which is obviously long before I was born. There's no indication that I was to be included in any of this.

So, your honor, I hereby request either eternal paradise or eternal oblivion, and strongly disagree that eternal torment is justified or even fair in this case.

11/12/2009 12:51:12 PM

Antichrist

Yep and abused spouses/kids make the abuser hit them. And rape victims were just asking for it by being out alone/tempting the rapist/leaving a window unlocked.

You people are sickening.

11/12/2009 1:34:10 PM

Turtle

If God has to send someone to Hell for a little white lie unless they kiss up to his son, he's obviously not as great as you say he is.

11/12/2009 1:36:24 PM

Argle Bargle

Your husband wouldn't beat you if you didn't piss him off. Why did you piss him off? He doesn't want to hit you, but you make him do it by breathing too loud. Now shut up and don't piss him off unless you want to get hit.

Same fucked up rationalizations, different bully.

11/12/2009 1:46:19 PM

GodotIsWaiting4U

Why did God create the opportunity and fuck his own plan over, then?

11/12/2009 4:01:33 PM

Comment Potato

You're mental gymnastics didn't do shit.

It would still be Jesus' fault people go to hell.

11/12/2009 4:58:14 PM

JohnTheAtheist

Fascinating, but false.

11/12/2009 4:59:30 PM

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