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#1022482
rubber chicken
I am unsure that this is really all that fundie. TBH, if believing in all of this 'life eternal' crap is enough to get you through this life then good on you. It's when you decide that I should do something based on your faith that we part company.
9/17/2009 7:21:01 PM
#1022485
Horsefeathers
"Faith is what gets you life eternal in a paradise in the presence of Our Loving Heavenly Father."
I've always found the definition given by Ambrose Bierce in his Devil's Dictionary to sum up faith rather nicely:
FAITH, n.
Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel.
"That sounds a whole lot better than whatever it is that "facts" and "evidence" will get you."
I'll take facts and evidence over wishful thinking any day.
9/17/2009 7:23:11 PM
#1022495
Elia
So you're the type who will shun an atheist or Pagan, but you'll give a dinner invite to the fresh-from-jail born-again Christian who was a serial rapist? Just wanted to make sure I wasn't imagining things.
9/17/2009 7:27:56 PM
#1022516
Zoo
That's great for you. Personally I get a great deal out of facts and evidence. I like knowing things, I like to tell other people who like knowing things those things, and I don't claim to know something if I don't have facts or evidence for it. Blind faith, therefore, does nothing for me.
9/17/2009 7:48:17 PM
#1022520
Giveitaday
Faith is what gets you life eternal in a paradise in the presence of Our Loving Heavenly Father.
And those without faith can look forward to their "Loving Heavenly Father" having them tortured for all eternity? That a real kind and loving "god".
That sounds a whole lot better than whatever it is that "facts" and "evidence" will get you.
"Facts" and "evidence" are not supposed to get illusions of some paradise, they are supposed to get you truth. And that's why they bother you so much, because deep down you know religion is a load of horseshit that you've been swallowing hand over fist.
Besides, the version of heaven that I've heard you people describe sounds more like divine slavery and emotional lobotomy, If you are right and I'm wrong then at least I'll be among friends. More to the point how can you know that your religion and/or denomination is the one true religion?
9/17/2009 7:50:26 PM
#1022532
Mudak
And this argument differs from Pascal's Wager how???
9/17/2009 7:59:22 PM
#1022545
KevO
See, if you KNEW that faith would grant you eternal life it would become a fact. Which kinda makes your argument shit all over itself doesnt it?
9/17/2009 8:08:06 PM
#1022600
Blue J
I'm thinking Poe.
Evangelicals like to claim that that evidence and facts support their faith, and may say that faith makes such evidence unnecessary, but they don't go on about facts and evidence being bad in and of themselves.
9/17/2009 8:52:32 PM
#1022610
Orestes
How's that blue pill working out for you?
9/17/2009 9:06:11 PM
#1022614
werewolf
Must be boring to live your life like this - mindless and pig-ignorant.
9/17/2009 9:13:45 PM
#1022626
Hahahahahaha
This is the funniest thing I have read all week.
9/17/2009 9:23:29 PM
#1022694
GodotIsWaiting4U
Thank you and good night.
9/17/2009 11:21:00 PM
#1022722
WMDKitty
Faith is what gets you a job flipping burgers or mopping floors.
Facts and evidence, along with education, get you a REAL job.
9/18/2009 12:20:00 AM
#1022755
Clown
"SOUNDS a whole lot better" is what is important here. Life is cruel and reality is not 100% fluffy and nice. We need facts if want to fix it, not nicely sounding lies.
9/18/2009 1:56:36 AM
#1022809
"Whatever it is"? Sounds like you don't even know what it is that facts and evidence get you. So how do you make the comparison?
9/18/2009 3:40:50 AM
#1022830
Mister Spak
I'd prefer to live at Hogwarts, but since neither place is real, I'll have to make do with facts and evidence.
9/18/2009 5:04:23 AM
#1022849
David B.
"[life eternal in a paradise] sounds a whole lot better than whatever it is that "facts" and "evidence" will get you."
Facts and evidence will get you:
a much lower infant mortality rate,
a better chance of surviving childbirth,
a better chance of surviving serious illness,
plentiful food from more efficient agriculture,
plentiful recreation from relief from manual labour,
modern technology to entertain you,
and last but not least,
a world-wide platform from which you can display your stunning ignorance with misplaced pride.
Science saves lives. Enjoy.
9/18/2009 5:36:03 AM
#1022884
Xotan
Faith is what YOU BELIEVE gets you life eternal in aN ALLEGED paradise in the presence of Our (SUPPOSED) MURDER-Loving Heavenly Father.
FIXED
9/18/2009 6:43:26 AM
#1022888
aaa
Keep dreaming, kid. It will only delude you for some time.
9/18/2009 6:48:58 AM
#1022889
Blackvoice
Your faith will (maybe) get you an eternal life of boring. Facts and evidence will get me a life worth living.
9/18/2009 6:50:46 AM
#1022900
Pule Thamex
"... whatever it is that "facts" and "evidence" will get you", is nearer to the truth and further from the delusional belief in a non-existent fantasy God beloved of fundamental cultists.
9/18/2009 7:03:15 AM
#1022950
Dr. Novakaine
If I don't believe this "life eternal in a paradise" exists, what's the point of me having faith in it?
9/18/2009 8:03:51 AM
#1022979
Wooflang
Begging the Question.
9/18/2009 8:36:45 AM
#1023001
Doctor Whom
I read the full post, and it screams out satire.
9/18/2009 9:22:11 AM
#1023045
Doubting Thomas
That sounds a whole lot better than whatever it is that "facts" and "evidence" will get you.
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Um... you mean knowledge?
9/18/2009 10:59:37 AM
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