Is this cloned meat being sold in the supermarkets yet? Just the thought of it is sickening. :puking smiley: Genetically enginenered fruits and vegatables :ohno: Lord iam Cpraying smiley:ing would you please send me some manna from Heaven.I would much rather eat angels food than this junk that man is trying to create.
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I've had four "zomg f!rst p0sts!" in a row now. I need to get a life.
But not until laney learns how to spell "engineered," "vegetables," "I," "am," and "angel's."
They actually have a praying *emoticon.* That's vaguely terrifying.
Yeah, I'd rather eat angel food cake than veggies any day too, so you're not alone, laney.
Oh, that's not what you meant. You meant ACTUAL angel food. I'm sorry to say this, but I don't think angels actually have food. Sorry. But you can have some of my angel food cake.
Newsflash!
Almost every form of food you buy in the stores are genetically modified in some form.
Everything based on corn or other forms of grain, are all gene modified.
I'm sorry laney, you have been shoveling genetically modified food into your piehole for years and you are still alive. Angel food on the other hand, is heavily genetically modified so that zombies can extract any form of nutrition and it is not suited for human consumption.
How to live free of genetically engineered foods:
1. Go into woods.
2. Eat berries, nuts and squirrels.
(It's OK, squirrels have no souls.)
What about the banana? And seedless watermelons? And numerous other fruits & vegetables? They've been genetically engineered. Not by mad scientists in a laboratory, but by farmers long ago.
It's funny how people think that "genetic engineered" = mutant fruits & vegetables brought about by chemicals or radiation, when in reality it simply means breeding plants with the best traits to produce something we want to eat.
I think I'm getting the general formula for RR posts...
Absolutely anything followed by 'It's the end! Come quickly, Jesus!'
'I saw a dog today and it had shifty eyes, the end is nigh!'
I saw a nature program (I think it was Desmond Morris) in which he speculated that "manna" from heaven was actually aphid droppings (it's very sweet and when there are a lot of them it "rains" down).
Oh, and wtf is wrong with cloned meat? (I say, pretending laney isn't pitching a fit over an imaginary issue). I thought animals didn't have souls so whether they're cloned or not shouldn't make a difference.
Is this cloned meat being sold in the supermarkets yet?
No, it's not. Not that you'd be able to tell the difference.
Just the thought of it is sickening
Wouldn't that require you to have an original thought?
Genetically enginenered fruits and vegatables :ohno:
So you don't eat corn, wheat, bananas, or any of the other thousands of domesticated strains of fruits, vegatables,and grains? Because they are all genetically engineered through artificial selection.
Lord iam Cpraying smiley:ing would you please send me some manna from Heaven.I would much rather eat angels food than this junk that man is trying to create.
Guess you'll have to starve then, because regardless of what your storybook tells you food does not actually rain down from the sky. And if you insist on waiting for to do so then you will likely starve. Either way it's no skin off my ass.
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It is a bit scary, sure. But as we humans keep getting more and more, the Earth can't sustain us all any longer. We have to make the food on our own, or stop reproducing at such an alarming rate.
So, you would never wear this junk clothes that man is creating either? No polyester or nylon for you, only home grown, home spun, home weaved linnen and cotton?
See, I always thought that genetically engineered crops were just good, honest American companies trying to feed people people more cheaply, and that the only people who objected to it were hippy-liberal-communist-atheists who hate America.
(For the record, I'm not wholly opposed to eating GM crops, but I have a healthy distrust of Agribusiness.)
I just... don't even understand what would be anti-fundie about cloned meat. Is it because it could improve the environment? TELL US WHAT IS WRONG WITH CLONED MEAT!
And oh yeah, you've been eating cloned fruits and vegetables for years. Deal with it.
You do realize that by its very definition, cloned meat is EXACTLY LIKE regular meat. Do you realize that successfully cloning meat could feed millions of starving people?
And you'd rather eat manna, bread that mysteriously grows in the dirt somewhere in the desert, than take part in the solution to world hunger.
Pure Manna is hard to come by, but we have something close in the sailing community called "Hard Tack." This was a staple food in the Royal Navy for hundreds of years. Men and boys signed up just so they could eat the stuff. Day in day out for weeks and months on end...the same weevil-infested, rock hard, dry cracker! Just like Manna! Cause we all know that variety in our diets is WAYYYYY over-rated and probably sinful (since "Manna" / "Hard Tack" is designed by God himself for our consumption). Place your order today at www.hardtackcracker.com
Cloning is not the same as Genetically engineered.
I doubt you'll find cloned animals at Safeway because it's much cheaper to breed calves than to clone them.
As for Genetically engineered? Ever use Canola oil? GM rape seed. Supersweet corn? GM for extra sugar content.
I'm against GM foods for economic/political reasons. But not because I'm afraid of an attack by the giant tomatoes.
Doubting Thomas wrote:
"It's funny how people think that "genetic engineered" = mutant fruits & vegetables brought about by chemicals or radiation, when in reality it simply means breeding plants with the best traits to produce something we want to eat."
"Genetically Modified", however, means something more specific: Organisms which, either themselves or in one of their ancestors, have had parts of their genome altered by means of gene-splicing, usually with a gene found in a different (sometimes wildly different) species.
This sounds Frankensteinian, until you realize that viruses have been doing this to most species on Earth for billions of years.
Then I suggest that you no longer eat food at all. Everything has been modified through artificial selection ( I know, its one of those "sciency" words that scares you), but trust me. There is no such thing as "natural" food anymore.
I don't really care what laney has to say, but the real problem with GM crops is that you can PATENT them - you can't patent a corn seed, but swap one tiny note and you can and then charge extra for it and even sue nearby farmer's for "stealing" your patented crop when the wind takes some of the pollen that way. (Huge issue in my state.) This is what the fuck is wrong with GM - we don't really know what that little change will do, but the companies are going to do it because they want the cash.
Manna- Made from angels since 2000 BC!
This reminds me of epithaph of a woman Ann Wallace.
Children of Israel asked for food,
and God sent them manna.
Old man Wallace asked for wife,
and Devil sent him Anna.
"I would much rather eat angels food"
Never fear, laney, I've got Betty Crocker on line 2 for you.
Because GM food is at all distinguishable from. . . standard food. You know some of your medication comes from genetically modified organisms? And those plants you grow around your house? Yup, them too. Oh and your pet dog or cat or hamster or fish? Mhmm. There are different ways of doing it, but we've been modifying things genetically for millenia. And cloning. That happens -naturally- even.
Good news! You can just quit eating meat, and then you won't have to worry yourself about eating "ungodly" meat. As for fruit and veg... well, if you didn't find it growing wild in a ditch or a forest somewhere, then I'm afraid it's been "genetically engineered".
Yes, even your heirloom tomatoes. Keep an eye on them-- they're clearly tools of the devil.
Ughh.... I guess its true, the most dimwitted among us will always freak out when it comes to GM food. I guess it doesn't matter if they are tree hugging left wing the sky is falling and the oceans are boiling death cult types or bible thumping right wing god is angry death cult types.
Look, if you think that organic food is in any way better than non-organic food. You're a bad person, a wasteful idiot and an elitest bastard that should be shipped to a third world country for a couple of years to give organic farming a try. Organic food does nothing but waste time, money and land. Resources that could be better spent growing larger, healthier, cheaper and safer crops.
If you pay more for organic food, while others around the world starve, you are a bad person. If you have any shred of decencey you would buy regular produce, and mail the deference to a needy charity that helps feed the poor.
That all being said, shmeat (cloned meat) is not being sold in stores and will likely not be any time soon.
Yes, but by wasting your money on the fairytale of organic produce being in any way better than normal produce, you are essentially burning that cash.
I suppose you see nothing morally wrong with burning cash when people die of starvation every day. But I do.
Organic food nonsence is part of a religion, just like any other. You might as well line the pockets of a mega chuch, it'll have the same effect on your health and well being.
Thanks for the wallpaper, Tindalos . Truly LOLworthy.
Can't someone breed earthworms to taste like venison?
Yeah, Id probably prefer manna to hamburgers too, but we can't always have everything we want. If it makes you feel any better, all the food you eat is genetically modified to some degree (through artificial selection,) and it hasn't destroyed the world so far, so while it's not exxactly the food of the Gods , it's at least safe.
Cloned me would be...
Nutritionally superior? Citation needed. No PETA studies or rants about "hormones and toxins" will be accepted.
Cheaper? Right now chicken costs around 40 cents a pound to produce. A single cloned chicken will run you five figures at the very least. Could this change in the future? Probably. Will cloned meat ever outprice traditional farming? Probably not.
Suitable for vegetarians? So making meat that self righteous middle class white people can shove in their hippy face is somehow a good thing? Being a vegetarian at all is morally dubious at best, but even if this meat is suitable for vegetarians doesn't it still drive a cultural demand for slaughtered animals?
Re: Cloned Meat
It's more likely to turn up at your nearest fast food joint, as the meat patty part of the "mega burger" meal, you've just ordered, rather than at the meat section at your local Wal-Mart...
Apparently, cloned meat from bioreactors, may be closer to minced/ground meat, (hence the above) rather than fillet steak...
Mind you, anyone for a "Humanburger", made from 100% cloned Human Flesh...?
I think even if you could get *actual, genuine* angel's food from heaven, it would kill any mortal that consumed it . . . in the extremely unlikely chance you ever get some, go ahead.
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They wouldn't die instantly from it, it would actually disintergrate their digestive system first.
Anyway, people like you throwing around stupid heresay ridiculous accusations on a topic you have no idea about is what's causing me to worry about my future when I get out of university. I hope to God I don't get stuck in an agricultural centred biotech company...
All of our foods have been genetically engineered in some from or another, but mostly by breeding.
And isn't mana some sort of dried up bread?
No thanks.
Well, I have to admit, the thought of eating cloned meat sounds unappetizing to me too. But that's probably because I've been vegan for ten years. But there are other reasons to dislike the thought of GM foods.
people asking why the fundie would refuse to eat cloned meat as opposed to meat gotten from slaughtering animals
well duh, to the fundies that's the whole POINT of eating meat, and it's also the same reason they look down on vegetarians, because how can feeding yourself be pleasing to their god if there's no blood and killing involved?
Don't tell me you're going to disagree about synthetic food based on religion too ?
Fuck.
Are you retarded, or just against any forma of progress ?
Now this is the proof that religion ain't got nuffin' on science. While scientists are trying to combat hunger in the world, this bastard is sitting on his ass, probably in well - fed and well - clothed America, complaining about how science helping the poor and the starving makes his religious boner feel inadequate. Disgusting.
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