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[After Irish culture is brought up in comparison]So you believe the Rome's propoganda about Vikings, Germans and 'Barbarians'?... The nations of that region [modern-day Russia] asked the Vikings to come rule their land, and teach them the ways of peace. The viking kingdoms were orderly, peaceful lands of serene wisdom and love.

sexyamanda14, Christian Forums 30 Comments [2/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Esjeur

What book are you reading? World History for Conservatives (only 200 pages, starting at the time of the agricultural revolution because it was only 6000 years ago and that's how old the earth is, until now).

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1/29/2007 6:29:28 PM

Goetian

As a hardcore Viking enthusiast...no, not really. True, the Vikings don't deserve ALL the negativity they get, but you can't deny that they did their share of sacking and pillaging and all that rot, even if they were accomplished explorers and traders as well. The dead at Lindisfarne monastery would agree with me here. Also, the song \"London Bridge is Falling Down\" refers to a Viking attack on London. Not to mention there were multiple attacks on Paris. So, sorry mate, but there was plenty of Viking-related violence.

During the Viking age, while Scandinavia did have laws like any society, it was pretty ruthless and warlike. Very \"eye for an eye\", so to speak. You were banished for manslaughter, for example, which is pretty harsh by today's standards. If you read the Havamal, a book of wise Norse sayings, you'll see that their society was very pragmatic and anything but full of \"serene wisdom and love\".

And no, the Vikings weren't asked to rule the Russians, they just intermarried with them. So close, yet so far.

1/29/2007 7:04:50 PM

Rahab

Wow... those Russians must have been really gnarly, then!

1/29/2007 7:08:26 PM

fuzon

The viking kingdoms were orderly, peaceful lands of serene wisdom and love...

that produced such peaceful, serene literature as 'Beowulf' to define their culture.

1/29/2007 9:08:24 PM

szenah

What's with the screen name?

I'm sorry, \"sexyamanda14\" just doesn't belong on CF with the long skirt and abstinence pledge crowd.

1/29/2007 11:21:17 PM

Big Mac

We were invited, check with Poland! Punch was served!

1/30/2007 1:12:33 AM

Beccs

Wrong, wrong, and wrong!

Yes, the vikings get some bad press, but they certainly weren't peaceful missionaries.

1/30/2007 3:30:31 AM

towey

the irish we the only people to successfully defeat the vikings in battle and they did it with inferior weapons

4/8/2011 3:51:20 AM

Canadiest

Actually a few villages would have pushed them back, a couple longships full of sea-wary men would be no contest for war-ready natives. The pillaging was no picnic for the vikings, it was as unpredictable as any battlefront (except when they hit remote monastaries, who shouldn't have been hoarding the gold anyway)

It wasn't the Vikings, a nation, it was ravagers, outlaws, sometimes not welcome back home.

4/8/2011 4:59:35 AM

whatever

I live in Orkney, and my ancestors would like a word with you. Look up the "Orkneyinga Saga" on Google and tell us how much serene wisdom and love you find there.

6/18/2011 2:51:21 PM

Blarghonius

The Vikings did settle down late in their history, but Rome was completely wrecked by Germanic tribes while the Romans sat around, being corrupt and splitting themselves up for religious reasons.

6/18/2011 4:42:08 PM

Justanotheratheist

Hagar The Horrible is not a documentary.

6/19/2011 12:37:33 AM



The word viking is a verb, not a race of people.

6/19/2011 6:06:12 AM

rw23

Where I come from, the surviving villages with Scandanavian names tend to be built on areas of lower quality soil than the villages of earlier origin.

This suggests that the Danes (call them vikings if you want to) were given unused land to settle, rather than taking over existing settlements and renaming them in their own favour (a common enough practice during a conquest). All this means, though, is that the situation wasn't as simple as just reaving or just trading. In other words, very human.

6/19/2011 12:12:41 PM

Professor M

the irish we the only people to successfully defeat the vikings in battle and they did it with inferior weapons

Ireland was also home to some strange and mysterous events WRT invaders from Scandinavia. A few ships would come in, smash and burn a bit, then set up a colony. When the next group came by a few years later, the colony would have disappeared completely. So they'd try again. Rinse and repeat a few times, and there were still very few long-term settlements but a surprising and inexplicable increase in the number of red-headed Irish people. It was, of course, a complete coincidence that the Irish climate is rather more temperate than what the raiders were used to.

6/19/2011 5:05:49 PM



aaannnndddd... stupidity knows no bounds

7/5/2011 6:11:34 PM

Stergeon

You know, Conan the Barbarian wasn't a documentary, Right?

6/20/2012 4:54:08 AM

Duch De Posh

This one tiny post and so much stupid. Excuse me. I have to hit my head on something to get it out.

8/18/2012 7:50:35 PM



um...WHAT! Are you smoking something?

10/9/2012 12:10:54 PM

Kevin Klawitter

I think he's confusing the Minnesota Vikings with the historical ones. We are a pretty darn nice state, dontcha know.

Just don't confuse us with people from Wisconsin. Those guys are psychos.

11/3/2012 11:34:49 PM

louislois

But the ancient vikings were Pagan, not Christian.

How can any non Christian cultures be, "orderly, peaceful lands of serene wisdom and love"?

11/4/2012 12:36:04 AM

the good samaritan

...What.

12/31/2012 7:50:20 AM

Sasha

Being partly of Viking descent, I can confidently state that sexyamanda14 is shameless liar. Dying in battle was the gateway to Valhalla, so fuck your "serene wisdom and love" bullshit.

1/2/2013 2:11:58 PM



Well, without being the thugs portraited by the Saxons(their mortal enemies), some of them were sackers and looters, nevertheless. And they looted more themselves than the others.

1/6/2013 9:50:13 AM



And the Hebrews were known for their acceptance of homosexuality!

And the Romans lived in caves and worshiped the Sun god Tonatiuh

And the chinese have had a democracy since the times before christ.


3/22/2013 6:25:33 PM
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