Nino #fundie

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no no no! an athiest can NOT be a good person for where did they get their values..from an aztec god who demanded human sacrifice..or a left wing nazi god who blamed the jews for every wrong,or a commie leader who demanded all concessions as in Yalta thus placing some 750million innocent christians in the tender hands of good ole Joe (thats whay FDR called him) hands and thus some 43 million were murdered! no..one who believes in only ones self cannot be deemed ..good...only like a bachelor who has no wife and children..what does he know about life anyway?..there is no goodness in a athiestic culture...cuba,china etc..please I am double parked and this is pure nonsense....only Jesus brought goodness into this stupid bleak cruel world....Let us all pray that this marxist anti-semitic muslim coming into the white house will live for his entire first term,,to prove once and for all that marxism is nonsense..just a gang exploiting people..let us pray that he lives and changes to see the light...signals are being sent that ..well...again please join me in prayer for this young man and for America..and of course for humanity..Nino

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old comment by Rat of Steel

First of all, capital letters are always, always, always used on the first word of each sentence. Please keep that in mind, for it makes posts much easier to read and understand.

Secondly, you're wrong at the very beginning, in several ways:

"An athiest can NOT be a good person, for where did they get their values."

It's properly spelled "atheist". An atheist can, in fact, be a good person without believing in an invisible uber-parent; I've personally known quite a few such people. They get their values from the same place all sane people get their values: humans are social creatures, who have had many centuries to improve the human experience based on the natural (as in NOT supernatural) premise that harmony is almost always better for the survival of the human race than disharmony.

The rest of your post is a huge pile of rambling nonsense. Please, Nino, try harder next time to stick to one topic long enough to at least have a chance at making a point.

ADDENDUM:

(Mortok)
"Ha! 'Invisible uber-parent'. I'm gonna use that."

*smiles* By all means, please do so.

old comment by Ozzie

"an athiest can NOT be a good person or where did they get their values.."

I got my values from a devout Roman Catholic Sicilian family right off the boat in Ellis Island. With all their rosaries, pictures of Jesus bleeding from every orafice and every other tacky, guady (sp?) religious thing you could think off. With a little help from some mafia loan sharks my grandparents started a business and paid all their money back (us grandkids never knew till we were in our 20's) and raised a nice family and we were always taught to do the right thing, even if it was hard. We had big family dinners, lots of wine and lots of fun and we all turned out okay. They know I left the church and they don't give me a hard time (anymore) about it.

I think I and my family are very moral not thanks to the church or bible, but what my family taught us. That's what really matters. I get pissed off when you start ranting that no one else can live a moral life except your little group of fundies. You are not living in the real world.

old comment by John

where did they get their values

The Golden Rule. It's the only "value" you need. It covers the 5th through the 10th Commandments and most of the parables in the NT with a lot less words. And every culture since the dawn of man has had some version of it, including billions of people who have never heard of the Bible or Jesus.

Jesus had a version of it, too: "love your neighbor as yourself". Too bad most rabid fundamentalists ignore it when they can find something more to their bigoted, holier-than-thou liking in the writings of that judgmental, sexually dysfunctional misogynist, Paul. If I had a nickel for every fundie who quoted Romans 1:24-27, and paid out a dollar for every one who quoted Jesus, I'd still be rich.

old comment by Often Partisan

"to prove once and for all that marxism is nonsense..just a gang exploiting people"

No -- capitalism -- the bourgeoisie exploiting the proletariat is the gang exploiting people. So...pretty sure that Marx has been vindicated, thanks.

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"demanded all concessions as in Yalta thus placing some 750million innocent christians in the tender hands of good ole Joe"

TBF to Stalin, Russia had been invaded twice through Poland; I can understand why he would have had geopolitical concerns over the status of Poland. I mean if a country had provided a base with which other countries had invaded the US? You can be damn sure that the US would have wanted that country to share its ideology and act as a buffer zone. (This is not to justify any atrocities carried out by Stalin).