Quote# 53765

(In a conversation about evolution and "how science hasn't learnt anything new in the last century")

everything is basically already created, and everything now is just improved and added to, the is no leaps and bounds of anything exiting and new we didnt already know, we cannot create a testtube baby, because they die, which proves evolution wrong... but we can clone only by injecting the DNA directly into an mother of the unborn. which means when born it will have the same DNA as the cloned,

reality of heaven, YouTube 46 Comments [12/8/2008 11:37:56 AM]
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Zemyla

<i>everything is basically already created, and everything now is just improved and added to, the is no leaps and bounds of anything exiting and new we didnt already know,</i>

So YouTube was around 100 years ago?

<i>we cannot create a testtube baby, because they die,</i>

Are you talking about in vitro fertilization? Because we're totally doing that all over the world.

<i>which proves evolution wrong...</i>

Okay, tell me how evolution requires us to be able to create artificial babies. Go ahead. I'll wait.

<i>but we can clone only by injecting the DNA directly into an mother of the unborn. which means when born it will have the same DNA as the cloned,</i>

I'm not even going to respond to this.

12/8/2008 11:45:40 AM

FMG

everything is basically already created, and everything now is just improved and added to, the is no leaps and bounds of anything exiting and new we didnt already know,

Because we did not know much about how the world worked. So "holy crap there are bacteria" was ground breaking. Now we know how a lot of it works. Also Nuclear Fusion. We are trying to make fusion reactors to replace our fission ones. Pretty much leaps and bounds. Also the Internet is new as are computers. Both invented in the last 100 years. Hell there are people alive who remember computers being invented in their current form.


we cannot create a testtube baby, because they die, which proves evolution wrong... but we can clone only by injecting the DNA directly into an mother of the unborn. which means when born it will have the same DNA as the cloned,


That is the point of cloning. It is to take make a genetic copy of another organism. The cell is just a scaffold that the DNA controls.

12/8/2008 11:52:35 AM

Dan Onymous

So, in summary...

We can't create test tube babies, but we can.

12/8/2008 11:55:40 AM

anevilmeme

"everything is basically already created, and everything now is just improved and added to, the is no leaps and bounds of anything exiting and new we didnt already know...."


String Theory Bitch!

12/8/2008 12:09:42 PM

aaa

You clearly haven't seen nanotechnology in action.

12/8/2008 12:10:24 PM

Mister Spak

"the is no leaps and bounds of anything exiting and new "

The were some exiting leaps and bounds in your post. I don't think they'll lead to a Nobel prize though.

12/8/2008 12:11:29 PM

Illuminatalie

Turn off your TV and get yourself an edumacation, please,.

12/8/2008 12:43:58 PM



Um... except that we CAN create test tube babies...

And if you're talking about making life from scratch, we have also started doing that on a small scale, and will eventually be able to make intelligent beings. If we ever do, does that mean people like you will be forever shut up?

12/8/2008 12:45:45 PM

Paschal Wagner

we cannot build airplanes, because they crash, which proves gravity wrong

12/8/2008 12:47:25 PM

Mortok

Regular babies die too. What does that prove?

12/8/2008 12:47:43 PM

Beeblebrox

everything is basically already created...

I guess giving this guy a link to photographs of stars in the process of being formed wouldn't do any good. Just to give you a historical heads-up, reality of heaven, your statement was the basis of the doctrine that caused church leaders to deny the existence of sun spots.

12/8/2008 1:10:36 PM

Arts_Myth

I've never gotten this "nothing new" bullshit. People who make this claim are essentially saying that even genetic mutation doesn't create new "information" because it's still the same four basic proteins, A, C, G, and T. This makes as much sense as arguing that there has been no new English language literature because it all uses the same 26 letters and assorted punctuation to create the words.

I guess that means it's nothing new to call them ingnorami and assholes. Okay, I'll grant them that point.

12/8/2008 1:25:50 PM

agentCDE


12/8/2008 1:29:38 PM



How does not creating test-tube babies disprove evolution? No one is claiming evolution works by test tubes. In vitro fertilization is a complex and completely unnatural process. It has nothing to do with evolution.

12/8/2008 1:33:06 PM

Tearlich

See there are no jet aircraft or Tvs' or neon lights or ect in fundie land.

12/8/2008 1:51:40 PM

Fizit

everything is basically already created, and everything now is just improved and added to...

Isn't that what Newton said?

12/8/2008 2:12:59 PM

El Guapo

I was a test-tube baby*. By fundie logic, this disproves the existence of god.


*I am now a test-tube man.

12/8/2008 3:10:39 PM

JohnTheAtheist

Step away from the science....

12/8/2008 3:16:23 PM

Osiris

How does that prove evolution wrong?

12/8/2008 3:23:41 PM

Rallymodeller

Hey "reality", I want you to check this out:

http://info.cern.ch/

It's the first ever web server. It went online less than 20 years ago. It was invented by the good folks at CERN. Thank them next time you are spouting off anti-science bullshit on the Internet, mmm-kay?

12/8/2008 3:25:08 PM

a mind far far away

Science, logic, and thinking do not work that way.

12/8/2008 3:26:17 PM

JewBoy

That's how you disprove science. . . completely ignore it.

12/8/2008 3:34:23 PM

Newton's Bitch

Am I to presume that reality of heaven posted this on the internet using Babbage's difference engine?

12/8/2008 3:35:35 PM



Fractal wrongness... a field fundies are steadily advancing in.

12/8/2008 3:40:05 PM

Horsefeathers

"everything is basically already created, and everything now is just improved and added to, the is no leaps and bounds of anything exiting and new we didnt already know,"

Nylonase, jackass.

"we cannot create a testtube baby, because they die, which proves evolution wrong..."

Let me guess. You think a "test tube" baby is actually born/made in a test tube don't you?

Fucking moron.

"but we can clone only by injecting the DNA directly into an mother of the unborn. which means when born it will have the same DNA as the cloned,"

Stop getting your science education from those lame made for TV movies on the Sci-Fi channel.

12/8/2008 3:57:56 PM

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