Quote# 51154

[On gay marriage]

we do not want our children growing up learning that gay marriage is ok

by allowing gays to marry then you are redifining the word marriage
marriage is between a man and a women


if you truely love someone you just want to be with someone, you don't need the media and the publicity to love someone

churchs will now have to allow gay marriages and some don't want that
if you really need to get married then you can go to a place that allows it

it's not natural, they cant create babies which means a decrease in population, take England they allow gay marriage and their divorce rates have gone up, and is England a strong country ? no
We don't want to become weak

again true love is not defined by the certificate, it's defined by your heart

i0yalt3y, Y! Answers 48 Comments [11/4/2008 5:18:15 PM]
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Beeblebrox

...they cant create babies which means a decrease in population...

And with a paltry six and a half billion people rubbing elbows, we obviously need more babies.

11/4/2008 5:19:46 PM

FreshClaire

Up yours, Yankee!

11/4/2008 5:21:05 PM

Green

marriage is between a man and a women

No, that's polygamy.

11/4/2008 5:24:25 PM

colonel catastrophe

Well, as a Brit, I am somewhat offended!

11/4/2008 5:24:50 PM

HoJuSimpson

@ Green, precisely ;)

by allowing gays to marry then you are redifining the word marriage

Hmm, last time I checked, divorce is legal and women are not supposed to be slaves to their husbands. After all, that's tradition!

if you truely love someone you just want to be with someone, you don't need the media and the publicity to love someone

Then you should stop making a big deal out of this and let gays have the right to marry.

churchs will now have to allow gay marriages and some don't want that
if you really need to get married then you can go to a place that allows it


No, churches will not have to do it if they do not want to. You really need to learn how to spell, you should go to a place that sells dictionaries.

it's not natural, they cant create babies which means a decrease in population, take England they allow gay marriage and their divorce rates have gone up, and is England a strong country ? no

If your reproductive organs work, there isn't a whole lot stopping you from getting pregnant. The population is not going to decrease just because of gay people, not that I care either way. We are not a small nation and I would love to see how you're helping the millions of children in some poor, dirty, abusive foster care systems. And uh, citation, please for that last part?

again true love is not defined by the certificate, it's defined by your heart

Exactly. Now, tell your ilk to practice what they preach.

11/4/2008 5:25:26 PM

Bass X0

marriage is between two people who love each other and want to spend the rest of their lives with each other.

thats my definition.

11/4/2008 5:29:22 PM

IanC

" take England they allow gay marriage and their divorce rates have gone up,"
Actually thanks to religious people it isn't called gay marriage, its called Civil Partnerships. Its pretty much the same thing, just with a different name :p

The divorce rate was going up long before civil partnerships started anyway.

" and is England a strong country ? no "

Right....

"again true love is not defined by the certificate, it's defined by your heart
"
Anyone else think this feels really out of place?

11/4/2008 5:30:43 PM

C_V


"true love is not defined by the certificate, it's defined by your heart"

precisely, thus it is not defined by gender, either.

11/4/2008 5:43:10 PM

Mortok

Wait a minute...exactly whose side are you on?

11/4/2008 5:43:34 PM

Jezebel's Evil Sister

WhUt? I can't make heads nor tails of this one. Is it saying that gay unions are fine and dandy as long as they don't require a marriage certificate????

11/4/2008 5:48:21 PM

anonymous

"again true love is not defined by the certificate, it's defined by your heart"

And true love doesn't automatically guarantee a couple the right to marriage?

Also, gays will not make babies whether you let them marry or not.

11/4/2008 5:51:24 PM

Shadoboy

"again true love is not defined by the certificate, it's defined by your heart"

Exactly. And it isn't defined by what is between your legs either.

11/4/2008 5:53:38 PM

Doctor Whom

churchs will now have to allow gay marriages

Lying for Jesus is still lying.

take England they allow gay marriage and their divorce rates have gone up, and is England a strong country ? no

Yeah, right up until they legalized civil partnerships, there was no divorce in England (especially among its royals), and the sun never set on the British Empire.

11/4/2008 5:54:29 PM

Papabear

"we do not want our children growing up learning that gay marriage is ok"

YES.


"by allowing gays to marry then you are redifining the word marriage"

Who defined it as between a man and a woman? What authority did they have to do so?


"marriage is between a man and a women"

Sez you.


"if you truely love someone you just want to be with someone, you don't need the media and the publicity to love someone"

True. So what?


"churchs will now have to allow gay marriages and some don't want that"

No churches have to marry any person they don't want to, whether gay marriage is legal or not.


"if you really need to get married then you can go to a place that allows it"

Or, we can boldly march into the 21st century and make the U.S. such a place.


"it's not natural,"

What is natural about marriage? No other animals do it.


"they cant create babies which means a decrease in population,"

Marriage is about love and commitment, not precreation.


"take England they allow gay marriage and their divorce rates have gone up,"

Consumption of whole wheat bread and use of fluorencent lighting is up too. You need to prove that your cause and effect are related, Twinkie.


"and is England a strong country ? no"

In what way?


"We don't want to become weak"

Here again, you need to show that gay marriage actually makes use weak, not just that it makes your stomach weak.


"again true love is not defined by the certificate, it's defined by your heart"

Right, so why are you worried about who gets a marriage certificate?

11/4/2008 6:00:52 PM

NoAstronomer

...take England they allow gay marriage and their divorce rates have gone up...

But still not as high as the US. Indeed the US divorce rate is the highest on the planet.

11/4/2008 6:09:02 PM

Slayer

"it's not natural, they cant create babies which means a decrease in population, take England they allow gay marriage and their divorce rates have gone up, and is England a strong country ? no
We don't want to become weak"

How many fallacies can fit in two pseudo-sentences? Too many to count.

11/4/2008 6:13:21 PM

GigaGuess

we do not want our children growing up learning that gay marriage is ok
Can't have them thinking that accepting people that are different than them, now, can we?

by allowing gays to marry then you are redifining the word marriage
marriage is between a man and a women

Or a white man and his white wife? Or a man and his woman, once he gets his dowry?

if you truely love someone you just want to be with someone, you don't need the media and the publicity to love someone
No, but I *WOULD* like to be able to be WITH my partner if he's in the hospital, or legally recognized as his next of kin.

churchs will now have to allow gay marriages and some don't want that
if you really need to get married then you can go to a place that allows it

I seriously doubt that. The whole issue has been tiptoeing around religion...you guys rant and rave about how evil it is, and by freedom of religion, you will not be forced to sanction it. However, just as a bit of mindfuckery, several churches ALREADY sanction homosexual unions.

it's not natural, they cant create babies which means a decrease in population...
You mean those babies we already wouldn't be making are now REALLY not being made? And what about those of us that once we get a stable family going, get a surrogate, and have a child of their own? Hmmm?

...take England they allow gay marriage and their divorce rates have gone up, and is England a strong country ? no
We don't want to become weak

Define weak. Economically speaking, their currency is one of, if not the strogest in the world. Militaristically speaking, I've heard nothing but the best of their discipline. Oh, I get it, this is a cheap "Dem pansy Brits" shot.

again true love is not defined by the certificate, it's defined by your heart
Fine. Then let's nullify marriage altogether, if it's so unimportant.

11/4/2008 6:16:35 PM

John

by allowing gays to marry then you are redefining the word marriage. Marriage is between a man and a women

Argumentum ad etymologicum - we shouldn't allow gay marriage because it'll redefine "marriage" and they'll have to change the dictionary.

11/4/2008 6:27:50 PM

Thinking Allowed

[On gay marriage]

[b]we do not want our children growing up learning that gay marriage is ok;/b'

I can see it now. You're children will grow up to be gay, fall in love, move to Canada where gay marriage is accepted.

by allowing gays to marry then you are redifining the word marriage
marriage is between a man and a women


Wrong answer. Marriage isn't an exclusive thing among christians. They didn't invent it.


if you truely love someone you just want to be with someone, you don't need the media and the publicity to love someone

I agree with this statement. Perhaps you should try it sometime.

churchs will now have to allow gay marriages and some don't want that

No they don't have to allow it. Churches are privately run institutions, not government run.

if you really need to get married then you can go to a place that allows it

Amazingly enough, that's part of the idea of allowing gay marriages. No one has to depend on the christian churches to have a legal union.

it's not natural, they cant create babies which means a decrease in population, take England they allow gay marriage and their divorce rates have gone up, and is England a strong country ? no
We don't want to become weak


Citation needed please.

again true love is not defined by the certificate, it's defined by your heart

While you're correct in this statement, gay/lesbian/bi couples deserve the legal right of being married in the eyes of the law.

11/4/2008 6:31:12 PM

aaa

UK is still a better place than your shithole.

11/4/2008 6:42:10 PM

Reverend Jeremiah

To all of my English brothers and sisters on this thread, I apologize for i0yalt3y's harsh words. The majority of Americans appreciate your friendship and DO NOT consider your nation or your people as weak.

P.S. - Thanks for Pink Floyd :-)

11/4/2008 6:50:13 PM

Faxon

If Britain is weak, then how comne we have not been invaded in just uner 1000 years, and once owned a quarter of the worlds landmass?

11/4/2008 7:02:32 PM

Jesus Klingon

again true love is not defined by the certificate, it's defined by your heart

So if a man and a woman are "shacking up", it's okay as long as they love each other?

11/4/2008 7:17:50 PM

pete

Then I suppose that those who are infertile, due to age or medical condition, should not be allowed to marry? Good luck with that.

11/4/2008 7:24:36 PM

tracer

"again true love is not defined by the certificate, it's defined by your heart"


I agree wholeheartedly.

Let's get rid of the whole notion of state-sponsored marriage entirely. It serves no purpose other than (A) tax breaks and (B) property distribution if you die without a will.

11/4/2008 7:32:46 PM

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