a mind far far away
Hey prick, arrogance is a sin.
"If you think beyond this cold little rock we live on" We do, it's called astronomy.
"you'll find we're part of something bigger" It's called the universe.
" agree that people that practice homosexuality should not be denied every human right" Like the right to marry, right?
"but a perversion of marriage is wrong. IT ALWAYS WILL BE" Oh wait, no. I thought for a second that...nevermind.
"Should I just let everyone live how they want to and mind my own business? Sure," Damn tootin'.
"until you affect my community, society, government, and world views" Wait, I thought you just said...
Well, arrogance and ignorance do go hand in hand.
11/1/2008 1:16:08 PM
My question to GreenEyedLilo: is slavery wrong? Yes or no?
11/1/2008 1:34:55 PM
GreenEyedLilo submitted the quote, she didn't write it, pay more attention!
To 'wrong is wrong', I would like to point out that the God of your bible also wants you to stone to death the following people: Lobster eaters, beard trimmers, cotton/poly blend wearers and rape victims.
11/1/2008 1:40:21 PM
Jezebel's Evil Sister
"...We're here to grow and become better people. ..."
Nice sentiment. Too bad you utterly fail at it.
11/1/2008 1:42:19 PM
This world wants to do whatever it wants and expects everyone to just say it's ok. Some people have feelings within them that will not accept this; it's called character.
Some people call it "character", but most call it "nosiness", "being a control freak", or "not having business of your own to mind."
Thank you, Mortok.
11/1/2008 1:45:37 PM
Why would you mock someone that believes a truth and then lives by it?
I would never presume to do that. On the other hand, people who believe a lie and want to force everyone else to live by it are fair game.
11/1/2008 1:54:17 PM
Ah, yes, the old "Christians swooping in and taking over traditions and denying other people's rights to celebrate in their way"-routine.
Some form of marriage has existed in every culture and (probably) every religion. But this kind of Christians always act as if marriage is a Christian issues, and that THEIR version of Christianity should dictate how people are allowed to celebrate their love to each other. Regardless of what religion they have.
It's just like with Christmas. I've had plenty of people tell me that I "cheapen Christmas" by celebrating then even though I'm an atheist. Just because Christmas has become the predominant winter celebration, they feel they have the right to control how everyone celebrates.
11/1/2008 1:54:52 PM
This is what really annoys me about Christians: they deny science and logic because if they accepted it, it would mean they aren't "speshull."
Also, your religion isn't law. It's wrong to limit the freedoms of a certain group of people just because you don't like them.
11/1/2008 2:01:45 PM
There is a plan and there are rules. What's wrong is wrong, and it ALWAYS will be.
I can assure you, if you base everything you said on the bible (or more exactly the old testament) I definitely wouldn`t want to be part of a society that you imagine to be according to gods rules.
Your society would strongly resemble islamist states. women would be the possession of their father and husband.
If they`re single and raped they have to mary their rapist, if they`re engaged and raped within a city, they will get
stoned together with their rapist.
Not to mention that in such a society, if the stories within the OT were true, you could get killed by god just for mildly criticizing your leader and tzhat slavery would be an accepted practice, with the women being able to be held as slaves forever by their master and being able to be sold as sex slaves by their father.
You say that you believe in god. That´s O.K.. The only thing you do wrong is, to see the bible (and the evil god described therein) as the direct word of god, instead of correctly assuming that it is a work by humans, merely reflecting the rules and morals of the society they were living in, 2500 years ago.
11/1/2008 2:01:53 PM
I don't care if you accept gay marriage or not. It does annoy me when you try to stop gay people from marrying though. It's rude and intrusive.
11/1/2008 2:04:00 PM
What does accepting gay marriage have to do with believing in God? I think what Wrong means is that he not only believes in God, but he believes God wrote the Bible. That's something else entirely.
In any event, people who claim to be anti-gay because they're following God's will are are liars. They're anti-gay first, then they go cherry-picking the Bible to find an excuse so they can pretend they're not really hate-filled bigots; they're just following God's orders. Nonsense. How come they're so obsessed with homosexuality as opposed to the other 600 or so things the Bible forbids, like eating shellfish, working on Saturday or making fun of bald people?
11/1/2008 2:10:38 PM
Kid, get laid.
11/1/2008 2:17:21 PM
Oh, wait! I have a better one. Why do we mock someone that is against gay marriage? Because he's a close-minded fuckwit, that's why!
11/1/2008 2:20:19 PM
Clearly my definition of "hip" hasn't been updated in a couple of decades.
11/1/2008 2:45:28 PM
"Why do you mock someone that is against gay marriage?"
Just to give you a mild taste of what you're doing.
"I believe in God, if you don't that's fine. You're differing view doesn't change what I know. We are God's children and he has a plan for us. There is a reason we are on this earth."
Ah, but you don't know this.
"We're here to grow and become better people."
Denying people equality based on some triviality is how you accomplish this then? What an odd way to go about it.
"God wants to allow us to become more like him but that can only happen when we follow his plan."
What plan is that? Point it out in your Babble. No, I don't want some preacher's interpretation; I want to see where some "plan" is clearly, plainly and obviously written out in your Babble.
"There is eternal truth in this world, whether you accept it or not."
I don't. Mostly because there's not. Nothing is truly black or white, right or wrong, good or bad. To think otherwise is incredibly naive and childish thinking.
"If you think beyond this cold little rock we live on, you'll find we're part of something bigger."
A vast cold, uncaring universe. Yes, I'm well aware that not only myself but this entire little planet of ours is inconceivably inconsequential to the universe. The thing is, such revelations scare people like you into believing there must be some nice invisible old man in the sky who really, really gives a damn about anything happening here, otherwise you can't make it through the day.
To that I say: grow up.
"There is a plan and there are rules."
Fine. What is the plan, what are the rules and why are there 30k different sects of Christianity alone--not to mention all the other religions that have ever existed--which can't seem to agree on what this plan is or what its rules are?
"What's wrong is wrong, and it ALWAYS will be."
Slavery. I have nothing else to say.
"God wants a man and a woman to have children and raise a family much like he is now raising us (when we acknowledge him)."
Then why does he make people who are gay? He knows beforehand that the person will be such (damned omniscience bits him in the ass again) so why does he do it?
"This world wants to do whatever it wants and expects everyone to just say it's ok."
No, I expect people to abide by the Golden Rule at the minimum. I'm often disappointed.
"Some people have feelings within them that will not accept this; it's called character. It's standing up for what you truly believe in instead of just going to church on Sunday and forgetting the rest of the week. Why would you mock someone that believes a truth and then lives by it?"
Yes, yes I would. Particularly when they're infringing on the lives of others to do it.
You want to believe something then fine, do it. Just don't expect everyone else to either agree with you or abide by your beliefs.
"The world wants to label you as "in-tolerant" if you do not accept wrongdoings along with the people that practice them."
You have a skewed view of what wrongdoing is. That's where the problem lies. If you see something truly wrong, fine, take action. Two consenting adults who want to do something with each other that has absolutely nothing to do with you nor affects you in any way are doing nothing wrong.
Why don't you try taking up a real cause and doing some real good? Because that would be too much actual work I suspect.
"I agree that people that practice homosexuality should not be denied every human right, but a perversion of marriage is wrong. IT ALWAYS WILL BE. Love the sinner but hate the sin."
Define "marriage" for me. If you use that trite "one man, one woman" bullshit I'm afraid I'll have to slap you in the head. Marriage has almost never been defined that way in nearly any culture. Until fairly recently it wasn't even defined that way in Europe when it was under the rule of the Church.
Generally marriage was defined as "one man, as many women as he could afford and a few mistresses on the side". Heard of King Solomon? And he's in your Babble. Not only that, he's considered one of the great characters of your Babble.
"Should I just let everyone live how they want to and mind my own business?"
Uh, yes. Unless someone is doing something that has direct consequences to you then you should probably leave them the fuck alone.
"Sure, until you affect my community, society, government, and world views."
Gay marriage offends only the last and only because your book of fairy tales mentions it, offhandedly, once or twice.
The fact that you likely eat shellfish and wear mixed fabrics offends me because it's in Leviticus and I don't think it's right of you to be a hypocrite. Please cease and desist immediately or I shall have to picket you when you eat at a seafood restaurant or go shopping for clothes.
"I have to stand against that, and I always will."
No, you have to find some sort of cause to champion to give your otherwise meaningless life some sort of purpose, manufactured or not.
Like I said, take up a real cause and do the work to make change happen. I'm sure you'll find it more rewarding.
11/1/2008 2:47:53 PM
"You're(sic) differing view"
Get back to us when you can pass an 8th grade English course.
11/1/2008 2:49:42 PM
ah I see, your truth is truthier than anyone else's truth. got it.
11/1/2008 3:05:35 PM
I agree that people that practice homosexuality should not be denied every human right
So... just some of them?
11/1/2008 3:17:44 PM
Arrogance and the mistaken belief that you have the right to impose your values on others makes you a loudmouthed, ignorant prick.
11/1/2008 3:18:51 PM
Blah blah same old same old. Claiming persecution because people won't let you be INTOLERANT (you don't need to put it in quotes, you clearly are intolerant, you "fucking" moron.)
"Why would you mock someone that believes a truth and then lives by it?"
I would mock someone that believed in a literal interpretation of any holy book, and pretended to live by it. Oh yes.
11/1/2008 3:27:30 PM
Marriage has always been a perverted institution. It was not until very very recently that people were able to break away enough from tradition and turn marriage into something other than a financial arraignment. Oh, wait, I forgot, your god only cares about which tab goes in which slot, not about the lives of the people involved in this.
11/1/2008 3:35:08 PM
Because they aren't hurting anyone so why bother them?
11/1/2008 3:54:04 PM
Why do you mock someone that is against gay marriage?
Because you and others like you are trying to pass legislation which is based purely on your religious beliefs.
Why would you mock someone that believes a truth and then lives by it?
Because most of you guys are trying to work out if fire can be fitted nasally and whether the wheel is commercially viable.
11/1/2008 4:06:16 PM
Actually, I mock people who are too dumb to figure out that amending a state constitution to institute one's own religious beliefs as law is the sort of thing that tends to come back and bite you in the ass. If you're against gay marriage, I can at least respect the fact that you're willing to do what your book says, even when it's hateful and makes you look like an asshole. Consistency I can deal with. It's when you try to make your beliefs law that I get really pissed. Think about it: the Christian fundies are working so hard to break down the separation of church and state at a time when Islam is the fastest growing religion in the country. See where I'm going with this? No, i didn't think you would.
11/1/2008 4:10:01 PM
You live on Earth, stop playing like you're too good to be human.
11/1/2008 4:36:35 PM