I know about evolution, and I choose to believe in creation therefore I am not ignorant, I am informed. Inform yourself in the word of God then you are no longer ignorant of the word. You are ignorant because you choose to believe in the writing of Darwin instead of informing yourself in the writing of Christ. That my friend is ingnorace in its purest form. Before you act like you know something study it first. You chose to be ignorant because its easier than studying Gods word.
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badandygonzalez, by reading your comment, I can deduct that you have no education, no future, no clue what evolution is or what Darwin held of beliefs. You probably live in the central areas of USA, aka the bible belt. You have probably never been further from home than the next state over and you are barely able to read and write your own language, much less any foreign languages. Your opinions are formed by listening to an equally uneducated and ignorant pastor in a church filled with like minded ignorants.
Why anyone would do anything but laugh at your feeble attempts, is beyond me..
The writing of Christ? What extant texts did Christ write?
If you're referring to the Bible, I know it better than do most Christians, and my Bible knowledge is my chief reason for being an atheist.
You assume that we don't already know about your religion, despite it being simplistic and loudly professed the world over. Hell of an assumption. Just trying to hide the fact that you don't the know the first thing about evolution by shifting focus, aren't you?
I tried to inform myself, but the Bible was boring as all shit. I just couldn't see it happening.
I mean, was that the best an all-powerful God could do?
Much of it didn't even make sense!
Often the people who think that the theory of evolution is correct know more about the things written in the bible than many fundamentalist christians (who believe in creationism)
I have, however, yet to meet a single creationist, who knows more about evolution than the biologists who, day for day, increase our knowledge about evolution and form theories around it.
(and I don´t count inventing things and then claiming that they are part of the theory of evolution [like Horvind regularly does] as knowledge about evolution ;) )
"I know 'bout evil-ution becuz my pastor tole me it's bad, 'kay? He sez he's read an actual book on it, by Ken Ham or Kent Hovind or somebody, and I'm pretty sure they's ex-spurts."
"I know about evolution, and I choose to believe in creation therefore I am not ignorant, I am informed. "
Translation:
"I've been told a strawman version of 'evolution' by my parents and/or pastor, and I agree with them because they said I'll go to hell if I didn't. "
"I know about evolution, and I choose to believe in creation therefore I am not ignorant, I am informed."
If you were 'informed', you would know that evolution isn't a matter of belief, it is a theory supported by masses of evidence from many lines of enquiry.
If you were 'informed', you would know that evolution isn't incompatible with a belief in God, Jesus or the Easter Bunny. It is not that evolution denies them , but that it denies your literal reading of a book about them that you have problems with. If you loved, trusted and above all believed in God and Jesus, instead of in the bible, evolution would present no more problem to you than gravity or electromagnetism.
If you were 'informed', you would not have assumed that anyone believing in evolution would not know a thing or two about Jesus. You would know that many evolutionary biologists are themselves Christian, and that many prominent Christians openly accept the validity of evolution. I think, for example, that the last three popes might just have read the odd page of the bible now and again.
If you were 'informed', you wouldn't have ended up posted on here.
I know about evolution, and I choose to believe in creation therefore I am not ignorant, I am informed.
Wow, that's so easy! He didn't even have to read anything, he just knows evolution exists and bam! He's informed. Screw you guys, I'm going to the University of Badandygonzalez.
...anybody seen my cereal box?
I was a Christian who spent most of his life studying theology. I am no longer a Christian who wastes most of his time. So no, I am very well informed about the bible, and all the beliefs surrounding it. I've also spent a good deal of time studying other religions and philosophy as well. (I was actually in training to be a Baptist minister at one time.) I finally learned that christianity is nothing but nonsensical bullshit, and the bible belongs in the fantasy and childrens sections at book stores, at best. So, I seriously doubt you KNOW about evolution. But I could be wrong. You could very well be that fucking stupid.
Edit: As I've said before, and as fundies will never learn, most of Christendom believes in theistic evolution, and do not accept any kind of form of creationism.
You chose to be ignorant because its easier than studying Gods word.
Studying some bronze age Arab goat herder's word on how he thought God supposedly created the universe is easy. It consists of about 800 words (KJV) and basically just tells us the order in which He created things. It says nothing about how or when or why.
Clearly don't know about evolution.
Kent Hovind and Ken Ham are not scientists. Learn about evolution from a real scientist.
I've read large portions of the bible, reading the bible just helped me to cement my opinion that Christianity doesn't make any sense.
You betrayed your ignorance. "The writings of Darwin" are not the Alpha and Omega. One can understand evolution quite easily (as I can) without ever having read Darwin (as I haven't).
I can understand how fucked up your religion is without even reading your scripture. All I need is to see evidence of willful ignorance. Like you.
Oh yeah, Christ didn't write shit that anybody knows of. You must not even know your religion.
I know about evolution, and I choose to believe in creation
A sane person cannot choose what he believes, except for the fundamental axioms from which all other beliefs are forced upon him by rational thought and observation (and I'm not even sure if you can choose the axioms you hold either, not the really crucial ones)
You may choose to hold the truth of your bible as axiomatic; if you do, we cannot refute you. What you cannot refute, however, is that this axiom is incompatible with the axioms of rationalism - it is simply not possible to formulate a consistent model for reality as we can observe it that simultaneously satisfies both the axioms of your religion, and the axioms of empirical rationalism (or simply "science", as you may better know it), despite the certainty (and I'd bet any amount of money on this) that that you rely entirely on the latter axiom in all other aspects of your existence where it doesn't conflict with your religious tenets, even if you aren't conscious of it.
I said it before, I'll say it again: "Excuse me for not wanting to read 1862 pages of broken English, terrible continuity, and a main protagonist more evil than the most fucked up thing I've ever come up with."
And now for the Fundies' least favorite words: Prove it. Show me what you know about evolution.
Hey buddy, I was a Christian creationist until I went to college and discovered evolution wasn't just some crackpot theory someone thought up while drunk. I had every single bullshit defense of creationism and ID drilled into me every time I went to church in my youth. I am probably more informed about both sides than you are, and guess what? Creationism is all BS.
Actually, I was a Christian until I really read and understood the Bible. Cover to cover, several times. I realized that its only redeeming quality is the fact that it's a work of fiction.
And what "writing of Christ"? I don't seem to remember a Book of Jesus. Or are you thinking of a different Joshua?
"... I choose to believe in creation ..."
See, that right there is your problem. Rational people don't choose what they believe; they evaluate the truth of a concept based on evidence in objective reality. You lose.
""The writings of Darwin" are not the Alpha and Omega. One can understand evolution quite easily (as I can) without ever having read Darwin (as I haven't)."
Not to mention that the Theory of Evolution has changed quite a bit since Darwin first came up with it, and 150 years of scientific discoveries have only reinforced it...
Actually I have read your book of fables cover to cover twice, then I read the origin of species.. and you know what, it made me hungry for more science.
P.S. - Charles Darwin was a Christian up until his daughter died, then he (rightfully) became an agnostic. No, he did not recant evolution. It would do anything even if he did, evolution still exists as it has for 5 billion years +/- on this earth.
Christ...never...wrote...anything....
everything in the NT is reported, without any proof that it was uttered by Christ, and, in the case of the Pauline works, definitely to an agenda different from the humanism shown in the Sermon on the Mount.
You chose to be ignorant because its easier than studying Gods word.
Not so shockingly, those I have met who make this argument have studied neither evolution nor the bible.
"I know about evolution, and I choose to believe in creation therefore I am not ignorant, I am informed."
Up is down, left is right, black is white, etc.
"the writing of Christ"
lol
"I choose to believe in creation therefore I am not ignorant, I am informed."
No.
If you were merely ignorant there would be hope.
You're roadkill stupid.
"I know about evolution, and I choose to believe in creation..."
What did you base your choice on?
-Tangible evidence? Impossible, there is none to support creationism.
-Clever sounding arguments from a creationist? If you were truly informed, you would know that their arguments are pure fluff.
- Fears of hell? Possibly, but if you admit that then you are admitting that creationism is theology, not science. That is, unless you have tangible proof for the existence of hell and that acknowledging evolution sends you there (good luck with that).
And before you say that evolution and creation carry equal weight, let me inform you that the study of evolution has produced innumerable benefits for humanity. Creationism has produced NO tangible benefits for humanity. Only the ignorant would deny this.
Christ never wrote anything! The texts that would later become the New Testament was first written down some three hundred years after Christ's supposed death.
There is evidence that Darwin existed, and there is literally mountains of evidence for the ToE. There isn't a single shred of evidence for any of the thousands of creation stories that man has invented throughout history to try to explain what couldn't be explained at the time.
I HAVE studied the Bible. The more I study it, the less sense it makes, and the more atheistic I become.
"I know about evolution, and I choose to believe in creation therefore I am not ignorant, I am informed. Inform yourself in the word of God then you are no longer ignorant of the word. You are ignorant because you choose to believe in the writing of Darwin instead of informing yourself in the writing of Christ. That my friend is ingnorace in its purest form. Before you act like you know something study it first. You chose to be ignorant because its easier than studying Gods word."
PROTIP: In his early years, Charles Darwin was in training to join the clergy in the Church of England. From his discoveries to his death, he was an agnostic. Yet, when "On the Origin of Species" was first published - which sold more than the Bible at the time - did the C-of-E do a Catholic Church, and - like Galileo - persecute Darwin, to force him to recant of his heretical, nay, potentially beliefs-destroying theories...?:
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Your argument is invalid .
No, you are the ignorants.
And then badandygonzalez was an illiterate, unenlightened , uninformed , inferior subhuman moron .
...and why did I read this fundie twat's first name as that of Yggdrasil's 1st Class Goddess Bell dandy, from Kosuke Fujishima's manga "Ah! My Goddess"?!
You're definitely not informed. You're wilfully ignorant.
How does reading a 2,000 year old work of fiction make one informed? How does scientific research, which has evidence (unlike your Wholly Babble), make one ignorant?
I used to be a Christian, but I began to study evolution and the Big Bang theory, and I learned that that made more sense for me.
I stopped reading the bible.
You know one thing but choose to believe something different? That makes you ignorant-by-choice, which is worse than plain old ignorance. I'll bet you believe god gave you a brain. Go ahead, tell him you choose not to use it.
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