[Talking about a Vanity Fair Cartoon of G.W. Bush as the Joker.]
Anyone who has seen Dark Knight knows that Batman is George Bush and Joker is Al Qaeda. That has to really hurt all of the Bush haters who saw the movie.
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Really? I thought Batman was rationality (you know, him being the 'Great Detective', tooled up with cutting-edge tech, strongly in favour of evidence, etc.), and the Joker was religion (capricious, inconsistent, murderous when crossed, etc.).
Gosh, I bet the pope is weeping into his hat at such a damning indictment of his beliefs!
Then again, maybe it's just a movie.
I agree with Paschal Wagner - I did have a similar thought about that movie being some kind of analogy for the whole Bush and war on terror thing. If it is, then the makers do a nice job of weighing up both sides of the argument.
Of course, I may have been reading too much into it. In fact, I most likely was but it was just a brief "I wonder if..." kind of thought. Either way, still the best movie I've seen for a while.
No, Batman couldn't even bring himself to kill the Joker at the end.
That doesn't sound like our President.
"Anyone who has seen Dark Knight knows that Batman is George Bush and Joker is Al Qaeda. That has to really hurt all of the Bush haters who saw the movie."
Yes, I'm sure that's exactly what the screen writers were going for. Nice to see the subtle nuances weren't lost on you.
Funny, I hate Bush, and I saw Dark Knight, and I didn't think Batman had anything in common with Bush, aside from the whole illegal wiretapping thing, but even then, he specifically put it out of his own jurisdiction, and had someone destroy it when it was no longer needed (akin to handing back emergency powers, something it seems Bush and Co are loathe to do). No, I think Bush as a the nihilistic, money burning, doing it because it makes him feel good Joker.
I'm not sure who Two Face would be. Too many options.
Anyone who has seen Dark Knight knows that Batman is George Bush and Joker is Al Qaeda. That has to really hurt all of the Bush haters who saw the movie.
- Batman is the president of America? But aren't bats evil and connected with vampirism?
Come on! Someone is getting their reality embedded in a bitof fiction.
I haven't seen the movie yet, but I'm fairly positive Batman is Bruce Wayne (an industrialist) not the president.
The only question is if Bush is The Joker, then who's Batman?
Lets see one is basically an excellent detective coupled with above average atheletic ability and awesome gadgets. In essence he is pretty much James Bond without the wit but with more brooding.
The other is a slightly overweight man who pronounces Al Qaeda as El Qaeda changing it from world spanning terror group to Mexican restaurant and an individual who could not find terrorists on a map...
But if you really want an "anti american" movie, I suggest you see V for Vendetta.
Some of us have not seen the movie yet. But I really doubt the movie has anything to do with Bush at all.
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"Erm...isn't Batman sort of well known for being against killing people?"
That's correct, Batman prefers to take them alive. Bush? He want's everyone dead ( and I DO mean EVERYONE).
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Actually, other than the ->crazy and somewhat goofy surveillance thing<-, I see (at best), Dent as a better analog for Bush. Not a bad guy, necessarily, but then shit blows up in his face and he snaps. And even with ->surveillance system, I see a major difference. Bats had a definite, achievable goal to accomplish after which he shut it down permanently. Furthermore, he found someone with a strong enough sense of ethics to give the killswitch to.<-
But enough about TDK. Neocons can love the secret psychotic facist that lurks in the deepest recesses of the cowl. As long as Miller's not writing, Bat's a better man than they are.
The Joker is Al Qaeda? I thought he was Heath Ledger(rest his soul and unfortunate namesake).
"If you want to be a Dark Knight, you need to be one of the richest men in the world. That's right - Batman is Donald Trump! He doesn't even need a mask - he can just comb his hair into the shape of a bat's head!" -Good News Week
Well, the film is certainly something the neocons could project their fantasy selves onto. They'd have to squint to see it that way, though -- RL neocons would be all for blowing up a boat filled with mostly-POC who were prisoners, on the grounds that they "brought it on themselves". RL al-Qaeda has reasoning behind what they do, fucked-up and murderously theocratic as that reasoning might be. Besides, as has been pointed out, Batman's distaste for slaughtering anyone who opposes him would seem to put him firmly in the category of what neocons would consider an "anti-American wuss."
Not to say that the whole superhero fantasy isn't almost always reactionary, of course.
Nonononono, Batman is a scientist. He knows things. He's a detective, for crying out loud! GWB couldn't predict getting wet if he was in midair falling into a pool.
Although I think we can all agree that Dick Cheney is clearly a psychotic homage to the Penguin.
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