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[Take a bunch of creationists, and put them in a rigorous science education program involving their doing actual experiments, both in the lab and in the field.

I don't know if it would ever have the popular appeal to take off, but I certainly would find it entertaining. What does everyone else here think?]

To make it exciting for TV, it needs some more drama, you know, some danger. So here's my idea: You get a rope and dangle some atheists over a pit of starving lions. You start slowing lowering them into the pit, and tell them you'll stop lowering as soon as they can explain how something can come from nothing.

Chesterton, Christian Forums 41 Comments [7/29/2008 11:22:46 AM]
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#604407
Full Metal Geneticist

True nothing is a state of high potential energy. If you have large amounts of energy you can create matter.

We have done experiments where matter has "been created" from energy due to the nature of the interchangability of energy and matter...


7/29/2008 11:28:25 AM

#604409
IanC

Wow, what an asshole Chesterton is. The guy he quoted had quite a good idea..

7/29/2008 11:29:33 AM

#604410
sakura

Uh, yeah, that's great. But the whole something-from-nothing is your deal. So why don't we just throw some christians like Pat Robertson, James Dobson and various televangelists to the lions. Don't give them a chance to explain jackshit. They need their last minutes on earth to pray to their non-existant god to save their worthless hides.

I'd suggest Fred Phelps, but old Fred's probably too gamey for the lions. They'd most likely just take a dump on his face.


7/29/2008 11:29:50 AM

#604417
Nowonmai

How about we toss a few fundies into a lion pit, Freaky Freddy Phelps, Cured of Teh Gay Haggart, and maybe you, and have you explain how humans were made from clay and dirt.


Primordial mass doesn't seem so outlandish, does it?

7/29/2008 11:35:42 AM

#604424
Beeblebrox

...as soon as they can explain how something can come from nothing.

We could just as well do the same to you, Chesterfield. You see, falling back on a supernatural explanation is not an explanation of how. All it tells you is who. Creationists only know the name of the deity who allegedly brought Earth into existence. You have zero information on what processes and mechanisms Jehovah purportedly used to actually create.

Remember that, Chetterton...you only have a WHO, not a HOW. Watch your step with me, Chisterdun, or you may find yourself as a bundle of cinders floating around Spain.

7/29/2008 11:39:11 AM

#604431
anevilmeme

"....as soon as they can explain how something can come from nothing."

Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle bitch!

7/29/2008 11:45:25 AM

#604436
KathleenTheTerrible

Dear FSM. That's a horrible thing to say.

(I think I'd be killed before I "repent" though.)

7/29/2008 11:49:39 AM

#604444
aaa

I'll just start whacking lions. With a machete.

7/29/2008 11:55:14 AM

#604446
Doctor Whom

Willful scientific ignorance meets Christian love.

7/29/2008 11:56:08 AM

#604450
Michael

The Romans gave up feeding christians to the Lions because the christians were full of shit.

7/29/2008 11:59:38 AM

#604458
Princess Rot

So, essentially you plan to continue the mindset that the Roman Catholics, er, championed back in the Dark Ages. Yeah, there's some Christian Love(tm), right there!

@Sakura: That last line made me choke on my cola. ROFLMAO.

7/29/2008 12:03:04 PM

#604459
freako104

Um...Creationism says EXACTLY that you dumbfuck.

7/29/2008 12:04:04 PM

#604464
Mister Spak

We could lower creationists into a pit of starving lions and stop lowering when they explain where god came from.

7/29/2008 12:07:34 PM

#604499
Jay-Sus

@Mister Spak

Then lower them in anyways because they're a waste of flesh.

7/29/2008 12:43:51 PM

#604550
Crocz

We could lower creationists into a pit of starving lions...and see whose mouths would be sealed. :)

7/29/2008 1:17:10 PM

#604565
LOLWUT

God created EVERYTHING from nothing. Why are we atheists required to explain your retarded beliefs?

7/29/2008 1:23:26 PM

#604593
wlof

Christian love, motherfucker, do you feel it?

7/29/2008 1:35:38 PM

#604604
Lectora

I feel the luv of jeebus!

7/29/2008 1:40:36 PM

#604615


That's the difference, right there:

atheist: wants to educate their opponents.
creationist: wants to feed their opponents to poor lions that they have intentionally starved.

Is this really the impression of your religion Chesterton wants people to have?

7/29/2008 1:45:59 PM

#604616
JESUS PLEASE COME SOON!

Why is it that the fundies always need to somehow involve murdering innocent people in all of their plans?

7/29/2008 1:46:46 PM

#604696
The Jamo

Hey, that will work just as well with christians. Why should you have all the fun?

7/29/2008 2:41:19 PM

#604721
John

You start slowing lowering them into the pit, and tell them you'll stop lowering as soon as they can explain how something can come from nothing.

OK, so suppose they say "God did it"? So what? That still leaves the next 14 billion years to explain. Does that prove that humans and daffodils don't share a common ancestor? And "God did it" doesn't even answer the question, since even fundies can't explain how God created something from nothing.

Fundies always confuse evolution with atheism - they think all they have to do is offer some "existence of God" argument and the ToE would collapse.

7/29/2008 3:12:51 PM

#604738


"You start slowing lowering them into the pit, and tell them you'll stop lowering as soon as they can explain how something can come from nothing."

Quantum physics does just that.

7/29/2008 3:23:17 PM

#604757
Philbert McAdamia

Imagine trying to teach anything to a classroom full of creationists, all sitting there with their arms folded, eyes squeezed shut, slowly shaking their heads back and forth, quietly mumbling "Lalalalalala".

Too many creationists...not enough lions.

7/29/2008 3:42:10 PM

#604766
Grigadil

A fundie would rather be fed to the lions than exercise their [nominal] intelligence.

7/29/2008 3:53:44 PM
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